Honestly I enjoyed the movie, did it have problems? Yes, was it still enjoyable yes, was it some sjw propaganda bullshít? No
@InsaneWorm, my biggest worry is only that’s she’s gonna be too op.
@LorienNine, I feel like she'll probably be on par with Thor when he has his hammer/axe
@InsaneWorm, that was my worry walking in, but they left all that out and focused on the MCU!
@LorienNine, (minor spoilers ahead) I have that same worry. I really like Captain Marvel, but she needs to take some punches in Endgame. I did have one fear alleviated from this movie though. The mid credit scene tells me she won’t be just showing up as the Avengers get their ass kicked and save the day. Now, we know she is there basically at the start of Endgame.
@DietAdam, good point. I try to stay optimistic until I see the final product so I’m holding out it all works out.
@InsaneWorm, I saw it today and I thought it was complete garbage. The worst movie in the MCU.
Dont sully Nick Cage by using him to represent her.
@ThePandaPool , she’s a tw*t
@celtics313131, AAAH a scary girl with an opinion of her own. Let's make her go away with insults. Just like Kelly Marie Tran. We can do it again boys.
@Neil Dylandy, ha ha, I honestly just don’t like her! I didn’t even know and couldn’t care less of what she said! She’s not a good actress either! You ok? Seems like ya got some pent up aggression! Have a good day my friend
I liked it. She was funny and her powers looked really cool. Neat twist too.
It’s funny since she didn’t say that. She was saying how the negative critics for A Wrinkle In Time were mostly white men, despite the movie being made for women of color, according to her. She didn’t say that because she hated white men, but that she didn’t want their opinion, given there weren’t many critics that the movie was made for.
@ragnellalondite, heaven forbid someone watch something not specifically tailored for them. (Though for wide release movies I don’t agree with that logic of movies being specifically for one type of person) or an actual paid critic *gasp* watches and critiques a movie
@ragnellalondite, yeah but people like getting offended, even the “people get offended too often” people
@Hoban Washburne, that and the "I upvote myself to seem valid people."
@ThePandaPool , i like what i said, so i liked it. seems pretty valid
@ragnellalondite, if you haven’t noticed, this app is kinda of an angry white boy echo chamber
@ragnellalondite, saying “I don’t want your opinion” to someone based solely on their race or sex is bigoted. Brie Larson saying that about a Wrinkle In Time is no different than if Edward Norton was to say he didn’t care about the opinions of blacks or women about Fight Club because it was made for white men.
Also, I saw A Wrinkle In Time. There was nothing about it that was only relatable by coloured women. There was also nothing about it that was well written or well acted. The movie sucked.
@liberachi , your mom is an angry white boy echo chamber
@I Are Lebo, got me again lebo
@I Are Lebo, thats a strawman, that wasnt the point she made at all. she said her motivation in “a wrinkle in time” was, in her mind, for women of color specifically. if i give a gift to my mom and my sister says thats a dumb gift, im not bigoted for saying “great, the gift isnt for you, so i dont really care”. if my motivations are driven by the happiness of a particular demographic, and another demographic is less than excited, im allowed to say “great. i didnt really do what i did for your sake” thats not bigotry
@Hoban Washburne, so this movie was given specifically to women of color, and no one else should have watched it is your arguement? Man you're a joke. You'll get along really well with liberachi, our other village idiot.
@ThePandaPool , well thats a strawman and an ad hominem, good two for one breh. im saying you can have whatever opinion you want about a thing i made, but if i didnt make it for you, dont expect me to give a shjt about what you thought of it. your opinion was not my motivation for making that thing. im not saying you cant or shouldnt have an opinion, im saying dont expect me to care. try formulating a counterargument based on logic this time instead of character attacks and strawmen
@Hoban Washburne, actually saying that you made something for the public, but only a certain race is pretty much bigotry. Just look at I Are Lebos comment. He is totally correct and just screaming "strawman" over and over wont change anything.
@ThePandaPool , i feel like its redundant to say that your characterization of my argument as “screaming strawman” is in fact a strawman, but it bears mentioning. your entire argument is now a reference to another argument ive already written a retort to, to which you responded, which means you’re now arguing in circles, which tends to denote a lack of coherent argument on your end. you can insult strangers on the internet, but it belies your own inability to debate constructively
@Hoban Washburne, STRAWMAN!!!! I bring up the other comment that you already responded to because your response danced around the subject and was an attempt of a strawman of your own. Making a movie and marketing it to the masses in no way can be compared to giving a gift to your mother. You have not appropriately defended this point that you are trying to make. I've seen this circle talk plenty with the sjws that pop up here and there on this app. Racism is racism, sexism is sexism, and bigotry is bigotry no matter who it's against. Giving someone special treatment because what they said was against white men is as bad as being against any other group. All that said, it's not gonna change your bigoted views, and you'll just end up like liberachi there as the butt of everyone's jokes.
I do also like how you have upvoted every one of your comments and downvoted all mine. Definitely shows the workings of a very mature informed person.
@ragnellalondite, her exact words were "I don't need a white dude to tell me what didn't work for him in 'A Wrinkle in Time.' It wasn't made for him."
To which I (a middle aged heterosexual Caucasian male) respond by saying, "Well, maybe they should have focused more on making a decent movie, and spent less time ticking off boxes on the Diversity Checklist."
She's just another shining example of a self righteous, overprivileged, entitled womanist who thinks she's doing the world a favor by jumping on the "White Guys Are Evil" bandwagon.
@Suicide Squad Sucks, I see your point and I can understand why people don’t like Brie (I’m indifferent), but it makes no sense to dislike bomb a movie that she was in simply because of that. Reminds me of the shjtstorm with Solo.
@ragnellalondite, movies are made for everyone, u don't need to be a black woman to know the cgi and acting in a wrinkle in time was shjt. I get that some films are made with the intent to allow a certain race to be seen and represented respectfully but that doesn't mean the films exclusive to that race. Let people dislike films ffs, this sort of thing is how we got a painfully average marvel cgi fest be nominated for best picture
@Peblo Memescobar, Don’t put words in my mouth. I only wanted to provide clarification to what she said. Seems it’s causing more confusion instead.
@ThePandaPool , *sigh* ive already addressed the upvote thing as well. you seem fairly intent on rehashing old stuff in an effort to lend credibility to your dwindling justification for your stance. you keep characterizing her stance as “against” a demographic, which is blatantly false. were she against a demographic such as white men, you’re right, that’d be bigotry. but her statement expressed an indifference to the opinions of white men. im curious to know if you’ve actually read the quote. she doesnt say white men cant have an opinion on her movie, she says she didnt make her movie for them (us, since im assuming you’re a white dude as well as myself), and you’re mischaracterizing her argument as her saying white men arent allowed to have an opinion about her movie (strawman), which, had she said that, would indeed be bigoted. but since she said she doesnt care about our opinions in this singular instance pertaining to this one work, its really not. her motives didnt involve us.
@ThePandaPool , also your upvote argument is a red herring. id invite you to look into rhetorical fallacies in your spare time, your argument is rife with them and it devalues your stance
@Hoban Washburne, it is when you are discriminating between people who are and are not the intended recipient by their race. That’s no different than marketing a product towards one race and ignoring any criticism against it coming from a different race.
I just saw Captain Marvel today. The motivation was clear. Every single male character was either a Trickster or a Clown, including Nick Fury, who made a total ass of himself throughout the entire movie. Conversely, the female characters were the only ones taking themselves seriously, and they were amazing at everything they tried without effort.
Captain Marvel was awful, and for far more reasons than the ‘girl power’ message being pushed.
@Hoban Washburne, also, being indifferent to someone’s point of view on the basis of their race is racism, and being indifferent to the opinions of someone on the basis of sex is sexism. Brie Larson not caring about the opinions of critics, fans, or other moviegoers because they’re white men makes her a bigot. Period, full stop.
If Johnny Depp said in an interview that he doesn’t count movie reviews written by black people he’d be liable to get lynched, to say nothing of him being fired and blackballed from Hollywood.
@Hoban Washburne, your argument is stupid, entirely for the fact that your comparison to a gift for one person is a terrible comparison. The movie was not made by only black people, unveiled at a black awards show, with tickets only being sold to black people with the poster reading “A Wrinkle in Time: For Black People Only”(that would make your argument valid.
Instead it was a movie with a diverse cast, widely distributed across the country to many (non segregated) theaters for the ENTIRE general public to watch. Any personal belief she has about who the intended audience was is entirely in her own head
@Richard Cypher, it’s also total hypocrisy. If a celebrity went out and claimed something they had a part in wasn’t made for black people or for women, they’d be national news as a bigot.
@Hoban Washburne, to address your point, my characterization of Brie’s comment (which I cannot find the actual official statement she had made anywhere) was not a strawman. Who she considered a public film to “be for” is irrelevant. It’s for everybody. To selectively dismiss the opinions of people based on immutable characteristics is bigotry. Plain and simple.
Saying that she considered the movie A Wrinkle in Time to be ‘for’ a particular race and therefore she doesn’t care about the opinions outside would be like Will Smith saying he doesn’t care whether or not white dudes like Fresh Prince.
It’s bad business to alienate part of your own fan base, as the popularity of a film directly ties into its financial success.
Except I haven't seen any honest criticism. It's all buried under incel tears.
A screen cap of a skull with no skin or muscles on it conveys more emotion than she has her entire career.
@Lord Manbearpig, you’ve obviously never seen United States of Tara or 21 Jump Street
@supahotfiya, or Scott Pilgrim
@Berntley, gotta day she was pretty good in that
@MattF, Full disclosure, Envy Adams’ pouty seductive demeanor is my six to midnight
@Berntley, was that the drummer? Because if so, were in the same boat.
@ThePandaPool , you know damn well it wasn’t the drummer
@Berntley, your response makes it so very much better.
@Lord Manbearpig, Sorry, did you watch the movie? Or just the trailer? The only people I've run into that share your opinion have not even seen the movie, yet judge it like they have.
@Berntley, in Scott Pilgrim she didn’t have a lot of range in emotion but that was the point of Envy’s character
@Dolorous Fvcking Edd, exactly
@supahotfiya, Range, maybe not, but I think it’s fair to say she wasn’t just playing herself. Plus, if nothing else, one could always point to the dynamic differences in character between Envy and Capt. Marvel as evidence of her range. I’m not even trying to say she’s a phenomenal actress. Just that there is certainly evidence to the contrary in regards to this claim that she lacks emotion or acting ability.
If it's not for white men then white men shouldn't go see it. Let's see how much money it makes when like 75% of its base doesn't buy tickets to thier movie.
I find it hilarious that she's getting attacked for this (which isn't even true), but Chris Evans and Mark Ruffalo are EXTREMELY political and vocal on Twitter but nobody says a thing about it.
Jebus ppl are trying to be angry now. Oh noes an actor said a thing. Better stop watching their movies. Then don’t watch and move on. Movie studios have given zero fvcks what you think forever.
Since when do white males have an honest critique for a female movie? 😱
@Brabbit21, when it’s porn
So was the movie good or bad
@eleven, i saw it, and laughed my ass off. a lot of these criticisms are from people misquoting the lead actress based on a comment about a different movie. brie larson was good in captain marvel
@eleven, it was legit good.
You’ll figure it out eventually, hopefully