Originally he said Missouri
@HSA, Ha, yep. I'm from Missouri. Kansas City side. Any other Missourians or Kansans here?
@Rumble, I'm a kansan from Wichita, born and raised, living in Lawrence currently to go to school though.
@Rumble, I’m in St. Louis!
@Rumble, I lived in Missouri for 12 years, went to Mizzou, it sure is something haha but I love it for what it is
So....we just gonna ignore the fact that there are actually 38 stars on that flag?
@JelloBrain, huh. Wouldja look at that?
@JelloBrain, "I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize [The Dakotas through Hawaii]!"
@JelloBrain, I’m happy to ignore that fact if everyone else ignores the fact marges head is turned 180 degreese
I grew up in California and when I was looking for places to rent, even the smallest places cost well over $1000 a month before any other utilities. And I wasn't even in a big city. So I said fvck that and looked elsewhere and found a nice place up in Washington and moved in. Now I pay about $1000 a month total for all my bills and i love it here.
@Anonymous Jack III, clearly not seatle.
@payton manning, Definitely not Seattle. On the whole other side of the state.
I mean California is literally a burning tumor on this country
@Elmato, I don't think you know what "literally" means.
@tha5th, did I stutter? I used that word correctly. That state is cancer that needs to stop into the ocean
@Elmato, have you been to Cali? I live here. It's not the exaggerated crisis people make it out to be. Yes, we have a lot of cons, but we also have a lot of pros. Just like any other state, we have a good days and bad days, good years and bad years, and the same can be said for the people. We're economically draining on the rest of the country, but we haven't had good political leadership in quite some time. We're not cancer, we're a crazy work in progress. If more support was shown, instead of hate, we might be doing better. Just saying.
@tha5th, the fact you are economically draining is due to your leadership, which is due to the big cities where all the liberals live, they keep voting for people who make you guys be garbage
@Elmato, conservatives won't do much better
@tha5th, prolly not, doesn't hurt to try though
@Elmato, the people are not always to blame, though. Politicians are very often misleading and straight up liars.
@Elmato, the California economy is the 5th biggest in the world. (Last time I checked, also 5th Thanks to brexit). You may not like us; but we are an economic powerhouse.
@tha5th, hey. We are the worlds 5 biggest economy alone, Ca. & it’s awesome here; no complaints.
@Monter408, biggest economy doesn’t really mean much. The state spends double what it brings in, receives over 26% of its revenue as federal aid, and is still almost $200billion in debt
@Elmato, on the one hand, you’re being cruel and generalizing to a pretty insane degree.
On the other hand, great parts of the state are routinely on fire, California is openly flouting immigration law, and Los Angeles is on the brink of a resurgence of the Bubonic Plague.
@Elmato, I'd be ok if we succeeded from the rest. If only we wrote that into our founding like Texas.
@I Are Lebo,
LA needs a boot&nuke.
PG&E should either fix their shjt and stop taking govt bailouts while charging rates as high as Mt. Whitney or just die and sell their entire business to the state. It'll still be the same crap but without the middleman so it'll be a bit cheaper.
For those who don't live here, PG&E (Pacific Gas & Electric) is the utility company for the Northern half of the state. They have had to be bailed out several times and have paid out millions and millions because of their shoddy practices. Many of the states' largest fires have been because PG&E refused to update or fix their equipment, or keep tree branches and stuff clear in large unpopulated dry areas. They also charge pretty high rates and have an absolute monopoly on a majority of the state so it's nearly impossible for other utility companies to move in when it's all on PG&E's infrastructure anyway.
@Elmato, fùck you
@Monter408, plus I don't think people realize how much food California provides agriculturally
@Monter408, Texas is also in the top 10 countries if included as such, and it has a $10+ billion rainy day fund (as opposed to debt), an affordable cost of living, produces a surplus of energy, and also grows food. Could be why so many Californians are moving here. You don't hear about a mass exodus of Texans to California on the other hand...
@tha5th, I live in the Silicon valley and I've never hated my life more. I dont even leave my house cuz anywhere I go there is traffic and it's not safe at night alone. California is litterally a burning tumor
@Richard Cypher, where are you getting your numbers? Sounds like propaganda from the side that hates us cause they ain't us.
Yeah, we pay more in taxes and it doesn't really seem to do a whole lot of good for us, but I see nothing supporting your numbers. Mind clarifying them or sourcing them? I see mostly that California makes Way more than it spends. Most states seem to end up between the 1/5-1/15 marks for debt:GDP
And if Ca spent more than it brought in that would mean we would have $3T in debt alone which simply is not the case. Nor does the federal government supply anywhere close to $1T/yr on Ca.
Yes we have debt, every state does, yes our gas and housing prices are shjt and our wages are sliding but your numbers lack evidence.
@mas2de, California used to be a large "donor state" and in 2017 only sent a net of + $.01 for every dollar it sent to DC. That number has begun to wane (it was around $.32/1 in 2007) So for every $1 we sent to DC, DC would send back ~$.99. so at last count CA is still a "donor state" but it's a slim margin and getting slimer. However that $.01 is still a gigantic number given the size of the state taxes and GSP. So the US govt still receives many more millions of dollars from CA than it spends. There are far worse states to bring up for being donor or sucker states than CA.
@Shelbshock, Yeah, but the state is dry in general and we need a lot of water to sustain all our agriculture, because we do not have enough of it here. Water that we just drain away from Lake Mead...
@IQuoteOverwatch, you're basing that off of a single place, though. That's the point. People never see past their own perspective. I've lived in shjt areas since I was little. I moved to a different area when I had the chance, and I'm happy. I have been going to ssf periodically for work. I've been all over silicon valley. From oakland to san jose, cupertino to daly city. I agree that every city or area has bad parts but it's not ALL bad. The point is to view from different perspectives for yourself and not let anyone else influence that. I was born in los angeles raised in san diego. I've been in shjt areas my whole life. So I got older, got me a job, job to job until I found my career. I got married, had children, and moved to murrieta. Never been happier.
@Shelbshock, have you been to the Central valley? Parts of it are a dustbowl thanks to liberal policies.
@tha5th, I live in Cali. It's a sinking ship. Not a work in progress.
When the governor and legislature continually raise taxes and lie about where it goes (roads are still garbage, water resources have no sognificant improvements), when they ration our water (starting in 2021) but continue to issue permits to build hundreds of thousands of of new homes, when the state turns once fertile agricultural land into a dust bowl... It's not a work in progress. There is no progress here.
@RogueKnight, Yeah I actually live in Clovis
@tha5th, Actually, the definition of "literally" has been updated and it's now both synonymous and antonymous with "figuratively"
@RogueKnight, agreed. I live in SoCal and the fact that the arguement in defense is "hey our state isn't really THAT bad" says it all. we Literally have THE MOST retarded drivers here. coming down the 15 from utah you can tell when you get close just by the fact that people forget the left lane is passing only.
Highest gas price, takes 20 minutes to get somewhere even if its 7 miles, prices are going up, roads suck major nuts, laws are basically set up to protect the guilty and BF the innocent.
oh and we have cyclists that dont have to obey traffic laws but get to drive in the street.
California is the one state that knows what the fùck it’s doing!
@benderama, no... It doesn't. California's major cities are becoming cesspools of human feces and disease. The legislature passes taxes and then misused them (is for water and roads).
Our water shortage is supposedly so bad we will be rationed in 2021, yet the state continues to issue permits to build hundreds of thousands of homes.
California is a sinking ship that doesn't know about the holes they made in their own Hull.
I can't stand what this state is doing to itself and can't wait until I am able to leave.
@benderama, there are large swathes of California that are living in conditions of a third world country, and there are conflicts between the California government and the federal government because California refuses to obey immigration law.
If California is the one state that knows what it’s doing, the country is fücked.
@RogueKnight, that’s an exaggeration, I lived there and I have family that lives there and it’s not as bad as you are making it out to be, get off faux news
@benderama, not an exaggeration. I live in California. I work in downtown sacramento and I see it every day. Nothing like having to avoid poo on the sidewalk or have no place to walk without stepping out into traffic because there are so many tents.
it has nothing to do with news. I've experienced and seen it personally.
@RogueKnight, well of course Sacramento is crappy, LA county is great, and Simi Valley
Not cool @officercoolguy, Not cool at all. Thought we were all cool with each other. You know, in this boat together. We help each other out and all together keep the boat afloat. Some give a bit more help than others in different areas and it all kinda balances out. Ca does the most to propel the boat forward but some parts of us are kinda smelly. Sorry. But if you want to sail your ship alone, with all the dreams you own. And when it starts to sink, then you'll blame us.
Sorry. Started singing Doc Watson there. Can't be helped.