@presentmedal, too soon...
@presentmedal, *ptsd flasbacks to vol 3*
@presentmedal, i can't wait to lough my ass off when they bring her back.
@presentmedal, jesus dude
@Galven, except they won't. She was crushed and scattered to the wind
@TR8R, exactl why they will, there was no closure no character arc completion. so unless you want to claim that the only reason that pyrrhas character existed was to push Ruby and Jaune then she will come back.
@Galven, nah she won't. Monty wouldn't ruin the emotional impact her sacrifice brought. Not everyone's character arc needs to be completed in stories
@TR8R, what emotional impact? She went after a person who wiped the floor with ozpin, she never stood a chance and everyone knew that. That is noy sacrifice, that is stupidity. She should learn to relay on other people, and that the arc she WILL have.
@Galven, I feel like a rewatch of the series is in order for you. Look up the meaning of a Pyrrhic victory. Yes Pyrrha died without doing anything BUT her death caused Ruby to activate her silver eyes, gravely wounding Cinder and freezing the Grimm dragon. That was her purpose. And yes emotional impact. If you didn't feel sad during the scene where Jean was training to an old video she made him you are either lying or a lizard person.
@Galven, ik its rough but she ain't coming back. There is nothing in RWBY to suggest it's possible for a disintegrated person to miraculously reform and be alive. Unless they pull some BS with the relics which would be a huge slap in the face to everyone who enjoys the show.
@TR8R, no, I'm rational. She knew exactly what she was getting in to, so this could be chock up to suicide and that is not how you finish a character arc. Not to mention that they are keeping her VA employed to be the news chick so they are certainly planning something with her.
@TR8R, then get ready for a bitvh slap, because the entire plot of the story is keeping us in the dark. Ozpin, Salem and the vagueness of everything makes that obvious. Not to mention, but disintegration? There is no way that was random, a person is not more dead if you disintegrate them. If Cinder just had fire powers that that would be fine but she is a maiden, so there is more to the disintegration then what meets the eye.
@Galven, Would it be worth mentioning that Pyrrha's death was planned since season 1?
@Agent New Mexico, i know, it wasn't done randomly. I also know that before the show was even approved Monty planned 5 volumes, and after it was he wrote out another 3, so it means that we won't be leaving his work for at least 3 more seasons(he most likely came up with even more than that) so if he was planning to bring her back(my personal belief based on how good of a writer he was) we will most likely see it in the future.
@Galven, As I've said before with a friend of after seeing her death, as much as I'd like her to return, I don't think it would be a good move on their part. Unless they can find a really clever way to bring her back without detracting from the chode-punch our hearts received in season 3, then she should stay dead. It always pains me to say that, but that's my honest opinion.
@Agent New Mexico, an opinion which i am allowed to disagree with, the second i saw her planing to face her i knew she was gonna die, and her story feels so incomplete which bugs me the most. So i wish to see her back(though i do think that killing her was a smart idea so that she doesn't take away from the growth of the strength of other weaker characters, but i do wish for her to be brought back.)
@Galven, Of course. It was the whole Han on the catwalk scenario. We knew she was going to her death, but we still held on to that shred of hope she might make it. I believe that shred is the main driving force behind thoughts of her returning. One of the only ways I see her returning is that whatever bit of the Fall Maiden that she was able to absorb is now inside Cinder. That bit would carry some of Pyrrha with it and is now influencing Cinder to the point where there is a constant struggle over whose ideals will rule over the body, sort of like in the book Blake was reading in Season 1. Of course the book thing may have already been used for Ozpin and Oscar. Again, I see no other really logical ways for her to come back. We watched her get disintegrated for crying out loud. I think that seeing Juane watching and training to the recording of her in Season 4 was acceptable for closure purposes. We see that the team, especially Juane, still mournes her loss and miss her.
@Agent New Mexico, did you get closure from the video? No, of course you didn't. And i don't think that was the point of the video. IMO the point of the video was to keep Pyrrha in our minds moving forward. That is why i think they kept the VA employed.
@Galven, If that's all we get, then I'll take it. There are plenty of characters from Rooster Teeth that died without their arcs feeling complete. Well, not exactly plenty, considering they're from the same series, but still. York has been dead for several seasons and we don't really get any closure. Same with North, Wyoming, Maine, South, the AI fragments. Regardless of how you felt about them, their deaths felt a bit odd after seeing their backstories, we were left feeling like we needed to see one last bit of them in order to say goodbye. Heck, I'll go as far to say that Torchwhick's death felt odd. As soon as we figure out his true motive, he dies.
@Agent New Mexico, actually, Roman was supposed to be killed off in the first volume, so the odd feeling that you got was completely normal. I do hope that Pyrrha and Pennys death do get resolved.
@Galven, Penny can easily be brought back. She's a robot. Bringing an organic back into the story is a bit more tricky.
@Agent New Mexico, yea, but we are dealing with a world were you can grab 4 items and remake the universe, were every single volume we get a brand new earth shattering discovery. And we know about at least 5 immortal beings so everything is a bit up in the air. But we will have to see. Im gonna go and check if vol5ep2 is up. Nice talking to ya.
@Galven, what are you talking about? Monty being a good writer is exactly why Phyrra should never come back. It would completely invalidate the darkness and raised stakes of volume 3 and 4. Characters who are dead should stay dead. I'm mad enough that Ozpin can magically mind jump but I'll accept that because he is the wizard. And who are you to decide how to finish a character arc lol? Not every character gets a happy ending. Sometimes characters die, end of story. And you already said what they are "planning" with her VA, to be the news chick. You are grasping at straws here
@TR8R, an incomplete character arc is the epitome of bad writing. And the news chick had 2 minutes of monologuing so there is no way they kept her just for that.
@Galven, why? It's far more realistic. And if the death of the character is the culmination of her character arc, there ya go. Bringing her back with some Deus ex machina BS would be far worse writing, and would ruin any concern for the wellbeing of the MCs
@TR8R, you are kidding me.... Nothing was learned, nothing was accomplished and nothing was settled. What kind of a character arc is that? The main problem is that if you leave it at what it is now(that is that Pyrrha was fodder for Jaunes and Rubys character development) it is the worst decision that i know Monty was too good a writer to make.
@Galven, and you must be kidding me. Nothing was learned or accomplished or settled? That's fùcking false 😆 Sorry that it didn't go the way you wanted, but that's reality. The fact is that returning characters to life is stupid unless very well explained, and even then all it really does is remove any belief of peril for any other characters. If they pull some DBZ shìt with RWBY it'd be an insult to the story Monty wrote. You feel free to embrace your opinion that untimely character death is bad writing, in the meantime I suggest reading A Song of Ice and Fire to learn how effective it can be in telling a compelling story.
@TR8R, i never said death was bas writing, i said unfinished character arcs are. DBZ is a fighting manga, characters need to die to maintain a serious fighting atmosphere, the fight is important, not whether or not people can be brought back later. In a matter of 2-3 episodes 3 characters died. If that was it, then that would not be good story telling. Look at something like AoT where people started making fun of it because it tried to be "serious", nobody cares if you kill of characters, what people care about is well made story with good character arcs that grow and change, even if they die. The only thing that matters is a good story.
@Galven, and sometimes good stories have characters arcs that end abruptly to provide the impetus for other characters and story elements. Again I'll direct you to asoiaf. I believe her death served a purpose and to revive her character would be an insult to the characters who are drawing meaning and strength from her memory. Not to mention the slap in the face it'd be to the fans. You believe she still has a purpose to serve. It's obvious we aren't going to see any value in each other's arguments so let's just stop here before it gets silly
@TR8R, so she was development fodder? And you think that's a good thing?
@Galven, omfg quit cherry picking what you'd like to respond to from my comments. I'm done with you if you're going to ignore the rest of what I'm saying. Good day sir 🎩
Gonna use this as an excuse to talk about the new op, holy crap its so good. Casey’s voice has changed so much
@Roman Torchwick, yeah the fact she has been seeing since season 8 or something like that it makes her super young considerring I am 17 and she is only 1 year older than me...
@Roman Torchwick, holy. Fúcking. Shīt. I love the new OP!!!
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@thegermanman927, alright Brian