Which one you like
IT is a manifest station of generational turmoils. The kids of the movies and book are abuses on several levels by adults and are tacitly ignored by others. It is like being beaten as a child and no one coming to save you. But by the time you grow up to have kids of your own, you may not have the fortitude to connect with your child, so you may have to solve problems the only way you was taught. In general it's understandable, the difference between these two characters. Our current Society is predicated on predatory consumption of the young to fuel aging bodies. Minimum wage, endless Wars, and Social Security to name a few. So it is not too foreign of an idea to have a monster eating children be over looked.
But joker is the product of this society. It's even stated in the movie. This iteration of the Joker is a mirror to the predatory policies that's safe guarded by bodies that profit from it.
@That one lurker, this is the kind of film analysis I’m here for
@That one lurker, few times have I ever been made to think this deeply while pooping
@That one lurker, Minimum wage? The young? A great deal of young adults are *on* minimum wage, and
it's there to cap the bare minimum they can earn.
Endless wars seems like the only real problem covered here relevant to young people. Social security has little relevance at face value so I'd like to know what you directly mean by that.
@That one lurker, so “It” is society and “Joker” is the result of that society?
@Obsolete , social security is a ponzi scheme from its inception, the reason why the age to start benefiting from Social Security is around 60 was because the average lifespan was around 35. So it'd be a rare case for someone to make it to 60, which ment the additional revenue could be used as an added tax from payments. When it was instituted in America the main benefactors of Social Security did not have to pay into it, but the next generation did. As population shrank and life expectancy increased ever one became more able to pull from their social security, which means it runs at a deficit. Which interns worsen the economy/increases taxes/pulls money out of the pocket of a kid born into the ponzi scheme. Which if you attempt to remove yourself of this burden it is considered illegal.
For your question about minimum wage, it's economics 101. Does the job produce enough revenue to be viable?
@That one lurker, ah gotcha on the social security. Outside the US it means something a little different from social insurance for the retired so I was a bit confused.
As for the minimum wage, that greatly varies depending on who you ask! AFAIK only libertarians, economists or otherwise, hold that view point. Virtually every other ideology is past it.
@Obsolete , so are you stating that, in general, economist think minimum wage is bad?
@That one lurker, In general? In general I would assume the opposite, that they agree with the presence of the minimum wage. The Austrian school and its descendants appear to be the only ones I know who might oppose it, and I dont know if that's even universal on their side. Keynesian economists support it and so does everyone to the left of them at least (that at least believe in the market economy)
@Obsolete , for the most part I understand why there's a minimum wage, I'd just wish it was lower. In Arkansas we're increasing minimum wage to being 15 in the next 6 years. That's f*cking insane! Arkansas is already worse off but now this sh*t, it's nuts. If you want I could give a brief eco 101. To explain my point.
@That one lurker, I think I've heard every argument against the minimum wage :D so don't worry.
I'm personally not invested in the idea of a 15 dollar minimum wage as opposed to something less radical like 10 and its one thing that Bernie Sanders for instance hasn't sold me on. I'm not sure if it will be damaging or not but we'll see. It's an experiment all right.
@Obsolete , no problem. For more information I'd suggest looking to the coasts, east or west, cursing the drawbacks of increasing their minimum wage to being $15/hr. Several of the entry jobs are being done now by kiosks which means people can't get experience. The best analogy I've ever heard for it is " pulling up the ladder after you're done with it". "I've already got a good job, so we no longer need this" that's my mentality when I say that harms at younger people.
@That one lurker, *screenshots*
And everyone loses their mind!!
@megamanx181x, They just don't realise that we live in a society.
Hot Take (but only for buzzfeed writers): The real bad guy in Joker is capitalism
@liberachi , I haven't even seen the movie yet and I agree.
@liberachi , I thought it was neglecting the mentally ill
What do you get when you mix a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?
@ORGANIC, exactly what you deserve!
Don’t we also live in a Society though.