*people protest an issue by murdering cops*
“Man, why can’t we just have peaceful protests? Why all the killing?”
*some guy doesn’t stand for a song to peacefully protest*
“I FOUGHT IN IRAQ AND ILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT I LOVE AMERICA”
My point is, as a veteran, he’s not disrespecting the military. He’s making a statement that I may or may not agree with. That’s the best part of America. I support his right to do what he does even though I fail to see his point. I actually love when he triggers conservatives over something so menial.
@MetalHeadTony, I respect you and your openness to dialogue.
@MetalHeadTony, wow, an actually coherent and intelligent comment online about this. You're completely right. He's peacefully protesting and has every right to do so. I'd prefer this over rioting and looting any day
@MetalHeadTony, "as a veteran" despite my greatfulness for the service provided, does not make your opinion particularly unique
@Medic135, never intended for that. My purpose of pointing out my service, of which I’m neither proud of nor ashamed, is because the main argument I hear: “he’s disrespecting every servicemen ever” or something to that extent. As a prior serviceman, I feel that my time served is unique to my opinion considering the rarity of people in my position that share my beliefs. I also ask that you not be grateful to me for my service. I enlisted for purely selfish reasons and also decided to not re-enlist for the same.
@MetalHeadTony, As a 49ers fan, he also was a shjt quarter back.
@MetalHeadTony, dude man, what's with that hate and appeal to authority? Using a straw man as your entire backbone of your argument, while also having a non sequitur as a starter.
The whole thing is incoherent.
@That one lurker, chief, I’m not sure where you are reading about my hate nor do I see an appeal to authority. If I appealed to authority then I would hate this dude as much as the next guy. My straw man is based off of what I mainly hear about this issue. In fact, I’ve never heard another argument made as to why he’s “wrong.” If you have other view points please share. As far as using a non sequitur as a starter, well, this is a funny pics forum. Non sequiturs are used mainly for comedic purposes. If my argument comes off as incoherent then perhaps you should read it with a different tone. Portraying my actual tone through text has always been difficult for me.
@MetalHeadTony, that may be the case, I'll read it again later.
An argument more commonly brought up, at least in my circles, is the fact that he was doing this for financial reasons. A common character assassination that acutely has some merit. He was described as a very toxic and confrontational member of every team he's been a part of. He was seeing less game time because of a growing mediocrity. It looked like he didn't have much job prospects in football anymore. So, he decided to become a martyr. Reaping the benefits while taking non of the heat.
Other then that there's political fatigue argument. 2016 was a massive year for derisive politics. Being so heavily inundated, day in and out with politics means the normal everyday person needs a break. But one of their favourite diffuser of tension got political. And then stayed political for several months afterwards.
@That one lurker, so for the first one, which I would have to agree with, can still stay with my narrative. If we all just understood that what he was doing was not a big deal then there would be no controversy. No controversy means that he stays the same fading quarterback with no sponsors or team prospects. For the second one I see that point as a reason to hate the NFL/prime time media. They gave attention to something very menial on a subject that I was exhausted of.
@MetalHeadTony, gave attention to, no, it's not that simple. The moment he knelt they tryed to push the cameras off of him. But the media and activists was over it in seconds, playing defence, making controversy, and giving this guy a shield. The reason for that is, in the NFL you can't do these sought of things. It breaks your contract, so you could get sued over it, but he was to hot. So instead, they kept paying a retaining fee on him instead of letting him play. Seeing that this was happening players from all across the sports world tried doing the same, hoping to get the same recognition. This plunged the sports world into massively low ratings. The NFL hands were tied, they couldn't do anything about fame hungry hounds that was jumping on the ban wagon.
@MetalHeadTony, Kaepernick was steeped in this culture, people from his team's hated hearing about his fevered rants before games. He know he would get in trouble, not in this climate, not with this backing. He had no bravery, he just knew he had to say his lines right. He was the deposing the little guy, and gave a middle finger to an audience that you would call racists later in his career.
He's not brave, their was no fire to walk threw. He profited on the deaths of cops and media sensationalism. The Decay that's been ripping America apart since the Obama era.
I don't know if he's disrespecting the military or not. He did disrespect the police when he wore the cops as pigs socks, but I agree, it's his right as an American. Unfortunately for him, the team owners also have a right to fire or hire him at their discretion. I never understood the outrage on either side of the issue. If he wants to kneel for the anthem, I could care less. Burn the flag if you want. However, he cant get mad if people get offended and it affects the bottom line of the owners, and then they fire him. Its that simple.
If I go to work today and wear an abortion is murder shirt, and then refuse to remove it when told by my boss because its affecting company moral, and then I get fired, I have no one to blame but myself. That's it. My issue with Kapernick was him acting like he was some sort of victim. You made a choice and you accepted the consequences. In fact, it makes me question your convictions when you cry about getting fired.
@MetalHeadTony, as a veteran, I agree with you 100%. I don’t necessarily agree with him but damn it I did two combat tours and I don’t feel disrespected by his protest. It’s peaceful and he ain’t bothering me or anyone else from what I can see. It’s his right as an American citizen under the constitution that I swore to protect from day one at the Marine Corps boot camp.
@Barry Dylan, were his stats really that bad? I remember seeing carry a game or two. (Im legit asking)
@MetalHeadTony, No offense but what does this have to do with anything
@robee, "He had potential" but no. He had Gore and our receivers were good. But he would QB sneak a lot and try to take credit. But honestly he was the worst QB we had. His throws were often bad, and he was an asshole to the other players.
@Barry Dylan, interesting
@MetalHeadTony, You ask for people not to be grateful for your service because you joined and left for selfish reasons yet you use it as a benchmark in your post. That is contradictory. Why mention it all then? You devalued that fact about yourself as soon as you said it. I can see why you don’t understand the servicemen and women who felt disrespected by his actions. Especially, those who signed up to fight and sacrifice their lives for country when you clearly stated you did it all for self. You’re not even in the same spectrum as them yet you are trying to speak up as if you are in your original post.
@MetalHeadTony, the problem is he’s doing it for money and is basically white but poofs up his hair to look more black
Controversy aside how the fvck are you gonna get a helmet over that fro
@Joseph The Broseph, L'Oreal
@Joseph The Broseph, who is this guy why is tony spouting completely unrelated politics
@eleven, its Collin Kaepernick (i think thats how its spelled) he's a football player who kneeled for the national anthem
@Joseph The Broseph, what’s wrong with kneeling kneeling is a sign of respect
@eleven, kneeling is actually a sign of weakness and defeat. Not something that should be done during the national anthem.
@meNoP, I don’t see why it shouldn’t America is a joke its government is about as corrupt as the king it initially escaped from sorry it’s far more corrupt than that, it’s poorer than anything due to its absolute refusal to raise taxes so that it can afford to run itself, it has mass shootings every couple of months and refuses to impose even the most basic gun control laws, the government allows the pharmacy companies to issue outrageous prices for even the most basic of medicines and medical services, and etc
@eleven, and you know all of this because you study the facts and evidence and you've seen it or you've read it somewhere on the internet from funnyoics commenters? No matter where you're from or how big your government is everyone is corrupt. It just depends of how much they can get away with or how well they hide it from you.
@Joseph The Broseph, wait...I thought was his helmet!
Al Bundy! Scored four touchdowns in a single game!
@megamanx181x, and kaepernick couldn’t score from 1st and goal at the 7 yard line to win the super bowl
@megamanx181x, everyone up there turning it into politics when Ed O'Neill was a badass football player and gave it up for acting
Kaepernick has said he never votes because he doesn’t think it makes a difference. The guy had such an opportunity to make a difference and then pissed it all away when he said that.
Plus, he can’t throw the ball to his own teammates and wastes time outs early on when he can’t hear play call instead of just running the ball
Being a PR nightmare who can’t play football is the reason you aren’t in the league, not racism
I think it's ok to have a negative opinion on the way someone chooses to protest. Saying it should be against the law would be another matter
Al Bundy- a house, a car, a wife that fits in both, healthy heterosexual kids, friends, hobbies, and a job sufficient to keep it all running. By today’s standards, Bundy is doing better than most.
Kap knew what he was doing and got what he was after.
And then fail at selling shoes because youre an anti american piece of shjt that wants nothing more than to try and stay relevant
@MMSieBreeze, he isn't anti American. At all.
@InsaneAnimeCleavage, Right I’ve never understood why everyone calls him un-American protesting a government entity that is constantly overstepping its bounds is pretty American as far as I’m concerned.
@InsaneAnimeCleavage, I would like to say him vetoing the selling of the 13 stars flag shoe was pretty awful whether you believe he’s unamerican or not. Many people would love that shoe and just because its not PC to like American history seems like a dumb reason to veto a cool shoe
Al was amazing at football! Polk high! He got 3 touchdowns in one game! It was Peggy that ruined his life.
Lol he was sixth out of thirty two so...
Jon Bois of SB Nation literally did a video about how above average Colin kaepernick actually was at football
On a kinda cool note, Kap graduated from the same undergrad school I graduated from. University of Nevada, Reno. Cool story huh?