At this point im starting to think that communism is becoming whatever people want it to be
@Bad Boi Jesus, that's what it was from the very beginning. A false promise of utopia.
@Bad Boi Jesus, Because political labels have no value
@Hagasay, I found this little tidbit today:
"The word utopia was coined from Ancient Greek by Sir Thomas More in 1516. “Utopia” comes from Greek: οὐ (“not”) and τόπος (“place”) which translates as “no-place” and literally means any non-existent society, when ‘described in considerable detail’. However, in standard usage, the word's meaning has shifted and now usually describes a non-existent society that is intended to be viewed as considerably better than contemporary society.
In his original work, More carefully pointed out the similarity of utopia to eutopia, which is from Greek: εὖ (“good” or “well”) and τόπος (“place”), hence eutopia means “good place”, which ostensibly would be the more appropriate term for the concept the word “utopia” has in modern English. The pronunciations of eutopia and utopia in English are identical, which may have given rise to the change in meaning."
If we take the pronunciation literally, it is a good place that at the same time doesn't exist.
@theprofprofessor, no, they’re just fine, the problem is when you’re trying to dress up a turd by renaming it, but everyone can see it’s a turd. Calling it ice cream won’t change it into ice cream. It just makes you look stupid.
Someone didn’t read their history
@megamanx181x, you don’t even need to look to history, just look at how people are behaving with never ending unemployment and eviction moratoriums…
The thing communist and socialists dont understand is that if it were to be achieved theh would lose everything along with everyone else. This isnt a economics argument its about private property and individual right.
Usually get hate for saying things like this as everyone wants to be communism bad!
But like there are many different forms of communism many different forms of capatalism each with their own merits and flaws. That's the very nature of politics in general.
Im not saying oh lets be comminist because that is dumb af. But the instant knee jerk negativity means we sometimes disregard certain parts of ideaologies that might have good value and that we can take from one and put into another creating effective hybrid systems. Most of the time the most effective systems are ones that don't label themselves as X,Y,Z and don't follow the teachings of a certain person or group... but instead look at a broad spectrum of ideas applying the ones that work the best.
@bonja, not really. Sure there are mildly different interpretations but every single one of them will seize the means of production and take away everyones private property.