I hereby announce the legalization of crack cause toothy bjs are wack. Y'all feel me?
What about Kalaxian Crystals?
@Donald Drumpf, but I like chipped beef.
@Donald Drumpf, #maybemypresidentnow
Well to be fair you can get addicted after trying it once so like they could go to a party and be messed up and try it once and bam! Addicted. Also quitting is not as easy as it seems. Yah just gotta have some empathy for drug addicts. I'm pretty sure most of them never thought they'd be in this situation
@instantcoconut25, What 10 year old expects to be a drug addict? It's hard to be easy on them when it's almost impossible to understand who is really trying to quit. Addiction is often used as an excuse to not even try.
@instantcoconut25, Unless my understanding is completely incorrect, I don't think one use gets someone completely addicted immediately. Addiction occurs when your body creates a reliance on the drug to function properly. So I believe it's not that simple and involuntary.
@Im Innocent, for some drugs it can be, that or health class was lying to me (likely) but either way, I don't think it's appropriate to be hard on people who have just fallen into a rut and now don't know how to get out. (Obviously there are people who want to be drug addicts, but I'm not talking about them)
@instantcoconut25, or like don’t do crack
@Richard Cypher, Very simplistic view of an extraordinarily complex problem. While using in the first place is often a choice, it usually begins as an uninformed choice. Growing up in a home or around people who are also addicts can perpetuate the issue. Also, self medication is a HUGE problem, with the direction psychiatric medications have gone. Then it’s just a spiral downward, and you have this collision of personal circumstances and criminalization of what has essentially been deemed as a mental health epidemic (drug addiction is largely a co-occurring issue, and has come to be recognized as a mental illness in most health circles).
@Berntley, I'm sorry but who isn't informed before using drugs? And why shouldn't you be fully blamed for that? Your personal circumstances don't matter at all. It doesn't matter if you have issues, or your parents are addicts, or everyone around you does it. You do it, it's your fault. Your choice unless you have a gun to your head. There's no sympathy for people who do drugs like that. People who want to stop, they get sympathy. Not the addicts.
@High Ops, Children, mainly. Who do in fact grow up around drugs, some even born with a dependency. That can affect a person’s psyche, and increase their proclivity for drug addiction. And yeah, ALL of those factors, and countless others, do actually matter. Like, A LOT. Because to beat addiction, you have to understand it, and you have to address The underlying issues which could be causing an addict to use or relapse. Also, I feel it’s important to mention that the people who want to stop? Well, they’re fvcking addicts, too. So yeah, the addicts get sympathy. They’ve got work to do on themselves, and they need support, because it’s a tough hole to crawl out of. Or, you go ahead and start up a drug rehab clinic, where you bring people in, sit them down, and say “alright fvckers. Stop using drugs!” Let me know the success rate of that.
@Berntley, The fact is we have very different viewpoints on the matter. I feel that all addicts (obviously minus cases where kids are born with a dependency or anything like that) need to be held accountable and we need to stop treating addicts like people who can't help what they do. Fact, you can quit drugs cold turkey. It isn't easy, most people would say they can't do it, but the truth is it can be done. And yes people who want to stop are addicts to, but guess what? I have sympathy for the guy in rehab, not the guy stealing money from someone else to feed their addiction. There's a difference. Actually, people like you who think everyone needs to be treated the same are the issue. Not all people are equal and even in these cases it should be looked at situationally. You don't just get help. No one desverse or is owed anything. You screw up your life then you deal with it. You try and fix it, try and get help, then you get it. Simple. Screw the rest.
@High Ops, just out of curiosity have you ever had an addiction?
@Runnin with scissors, alcohol sadly. Family thing, why?
@High Ops, See, you and I don’t actually disagree, except in that you don’t actually understand what you’re even saying (or what I’m saying, for that matter). I’m by no means saying we should just let junkies be junkies, because they can’t help themselves. I’m saying we need support for those who want to change, and an accordingly more understanding court system. In my city, we have mental health Court and drug court, where they’re held accountable, but rather than being hit with a fine or a jail sentence, they are given strict guidelines for treatment, that they must comply with. They’re given a direct opportunity to help themselves, and if they can’t, they have to face their original charges. It’s not perfect, but I can say that it has assisted THOUSANDS of local citizens in getting the help they need. All because community leaders had the sense to look deeper than just “well, they used drugs, it’s their own problem”. And there are some habits that can be quit cold turkey, but I’ve
@Berntley, worked in psych hospitals where we treated detox patients. There are some whose bodies would not have survived detox on their own. The withdrawal symptoms would literally kill them. Others, it makes them wish they were dead. 99% of people who have to go through that on their own, because hey, they’re not our goddamn problem, wouldn’t be able to. And I’m actually saying that, on a Mental and physiological level, people are NOT created equally. What causes you or someone else to develop an addiction might not even touch me. We could use the same amount of the same thing over the same amount of time, and I’d be fine, and you wouldn’t. That’s another reason I believe in taking a compassionate standpoint on addiction. Just because you can quit easily, doesn’t mean someone else can. But you think this means that we SHOULDN’T be looking at addiction as a case basis? Makes no sense. Consider this: I’ve got a guy who has various mental health issues, and addiction. He found out all
@Berntley, too late that his brain doesn’t produce serotonin like it should. He didn’t even know, but he was self medicating his entire life with drugs. They leveled him out, until they didn’t anymore, and he got stuck. Wants to change, struggles with it. Partly because the resources for someone in his position aren’t as vast as they’d be for you or me. He can’t buy his way out of trouble, and he can’t afford many of the things that might help him quit. It’s basically, make all your court appointments, while you’re also living on the street, struggling to afford your medications, and the only people willing to give you a place to stay or any food are the people in your life who enable your addiction. Now, has he made some poor decisions that, to you or me would have clearly only made things worse? Sure. But you try living for 20 years with untreated bipolar disorder, because you didn’t know what it was, and everyone you’re surrounded with in your life are the “doctors are for pvssies”
@Berntley, kind of people, who would belittle you for mentioning mood swings or panic attacks. This is your entire world, and you’re gonna tell me it’s just as easy as saying “time to quit”? But sure, man. Fvck him.
@High Ops, well I used to think a lot like you and then I became a mental health counselor for about 2 years and I met a lot of people that had drug addiction and were willing to combat it but got so messed up and they couldn't on their own. During that time I started smoking because it was a good stress relief and also all of the clients did too so it was easy to bond with them in those moments over little things. Quiting those little bastards was such a bitch. Idk I think a lot of drug addicts start off because of the world they are exposed to, not saying that's an excuse, I'm just saying that if your parents use crack around you like it's normal then you might be more inclined. A lot of those drug addicts just get to a point in their life where they don't know how they got there and just want to stop and our counter addiction programs in this country suck dirty monkey balls.
Great posture, they must be part time models.
@Steve the cat, the one on the left is ok but the one on the right has the posture of a sea horse
I cant endorse being easy with drug addicts. I know that i wouldve taken advantage of it because i have before. They deserve empathy but dont think for one second that theyre above screwing you over for their own benefit
@High Ops, .