Was it actually discriminating or was it just picking the best candidate for the job
@Richard Cypher, it was "discriminating"
@Richard Cypher, it was selecting men because of the database it was using. They took resumes from previous employees that just so happened to be male dominated. The AI read through and saw that words like women, female and such was not used often and therefore not good for the job. It is discriminating because we taught it to discriminate.
@Jedonathan, Actually that's not correct, the pool was large enough for it to differentiate based on merit. The thing was that after reviewing thousands of resumes it found men in general to be better candidates for the job, and correlated gendered activities on resumes such as women's chess with being a poor applicant. Nobody taught it anything, it made assumptions under our parameters of merit that may or may not have been incorrect. But to say that we taught it to discriminate is facetious.
@Richard Cypher, both
@Richard Cypher, it was “disCRimInaTinG”
@Richard Cypher, that’s what discriminating means. Or at least what it used to mean.
@Richard Cypher, so in the technology field this is a big problem that we're trying to solve. Tech companies are dominated by men, white men in particular. So you'll get products like smart camera that don't take the picture if some eyes are closed, that often discriminates against Asian. Or motion senor that they use at sinks, designed and tested by fair skin people. And once it hit market it discriminated against darker skin people. I'm not sure about this AI but it is likely that a bunch of dudes made and tested it some it is possible that it is discriminating based on gender.
@sexy grandpa, if the best candidate for the job gets the job, then what’s the problem? I’m fine with a meritocracy.
Also for your examples, discrimination requires some kind of conscious exclusion, so I don’t think a camera or a sink is consciously deciding to ignore a specific gender or a specific race just because it wants to. And I also don’t believe that every programmer for the objects is creating the program to specifically discriminate.
It’s like saying the sun is discriminating because it burns fair skinned people easier or quicker than dark skinned people.
@Richard Cypher, because prejudice exist and it can show in the things we made, for explain a chair you see in public probably isn't made for a little person to feel comfortable or an extra large person. Door frame and low ceiling are bad tall people and high cabinets are bad for short people. To say that this AI is objectively picking people when it was build by subjective people is a stretch.
That all to say, hiring the best possible person is important, but AI aren't as smart as the media makes them seem. They are very far form being objective, the designer may have given criteria that unknowningly put women to a disadvantage, such as average height, if it's labor tall people are great to have but thats not a fair judgement. Or that women might need maternal leave, is that a reason not to hire some one?
@sexy grandpa, yes. Again. Best person for the job. If a company needs someone for a 6month long job, then the woman 7months pregnant is not the best choice even if she’s got the same experience as anyone else
It was probably using common sense which, in today’s day and age, equals discrimination. Now, I don’t care if you’re a man, or woman, or one of these new-fangled hybrids people are talking about…. You are either the best for the job or you’re not...Anything else just leads to the fall of society and the complete destruction of mankind. remember, there’s always work for those who want to work… It may not be the job you want, but it is still a job.
@Malice211, are you aware that there is a significant, albeit small portion of people who legitimately argue that a meritocracy is a discriminatory tool of the Patriarchy meant to keep minorities down?
@I Are Lebo, I miss natural selection.
@Malice211, new fangled hybrids😂😂
@I Are Lebo, that’s OK… There is a significant, albeit small portion of people who legitimately argue that the earth is flat. In fact, that’s pretty much the same group that argue that vaccines are bad for people. Every country has their nut jobs… Just try to keep them hidden away when company comes calling, ok? Or perhaps they don’t actually know what a Meritocracy is? It’s a social system, society, or organization in which people get success or power because of their abilities, not because of their money or social position. Yep, I can see why some would think the patriarchy would be behind this one… I mean, raising people up based on ability… and not who you know, or what family you were born into, or merely because of the color of your skin…what type of society could ever embrace such a concept?
@Malice211, the idea is that those aren’t the principles that are actually lauded. It’s the type of ideology that requires mental gymnastics, especially considering they are able to simultaneously believe that women are equal to men in all ways that matter, and that it’s a more heinous crime for a man to strike a woman than it is for a woman to strike a man.
Can you sue the A.I.?
@megamanx181x, imagine how many regulations it could bring up to fight back
@Dephenistrator, and it does it in under thirty seconds
@megamanx181x, finally, someone who can argue ben Shapiro on equal terms
Pretty sure that’s the same AI the Army used in the past for promotions and it did the same thing...
@julian0027, no google spent like 3 years and millions of dollars on it. Then had to shut it down multiple times and retry it before scrapping it. But it didn’t hire people just narrow the list of resumes for people to actually interview.
I'm it had nothing to do with who wrote the program...