- I'm the official yelp reviewer, can I get mine made fresh.
- sure here is your dish with our special sauce, with a bit of extra boogers and cum.
- what was that last part?
- Nothing, enjoy your meal.
@stigmaoftherose, that was a great episode!
I don't get the point of beverage art. Food is for consuming, not looking at.
@I Are Lebo, The way you plate food or mix a drink can influence the taste and experience drastically.
@Krinko, are you serious?! No it doesn't. A meal being arranged aesthetically pleasing has no impact on taste.
@I Are Lebo, Are you a chef? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Krinko, no, but I do have common sense. Satisfaction of a meal can change based on things unrelated to the contents of the meal, but the taste is the same.
@Krinko, experience yes, taste no.
@I Are Lebo, The flavor of a dish is based off of more than just how it tastes. Scent, Texture, Temperature, and Physical appeal are all important things. Culinary Art combines these aspects to make a great dish that appeals to you. When you have your plated food set up to where everything comes together in an organized fashion, it will taste better than something that is disorganized on the plate. Anothe r thing that should be taken into consideration is the variations in palettes and mindsets. If you go to a fancy restaurant and focus on only the sustenance of food, then that's all you get. You miss out on the atmosphere, the art, and the skillset that go into cooking great food.
@I Are Lebo, Another reason why a dish is arranged like this and made to look fancy is that eating has become more of a social thing. With easier access to food (for most) and not having to worry if we have to eat at all (ex. We no longer have to hunt and scavenge for berries) we have made it to be a thing that we do with friends and family, a thing that we are required to do, into a thing that is also fun, attractive to the eye, and a good way to connect with friends while we are eating and chatting. Another reason why we organize it like this is so restaurants can get more customers. With shops competing with each other to make money, a shop will make its products more flashy in order to attract more people and to keep them coming back, to excite and keep them, so that they make more money.
@Krinko, no idea why you got downvoted. Here's an upvote.
@Tiny Zemouregal, Thank you! Many great foods to you!
@I Are Lebo, false. Your mind and mood have a tremendous amount of impact on your perception of things. And taste is definitely subject to perception.
@big freedom, I find that to be similar to the fact that stolen food tastes better. It's a matter of perception, the actual taste is unchanged.
It's the oral equivalent of an optical illusion. The fact that the lines are the same length doesn't stop our eyes from perceiving otherwise. The fact that the dishes have the same flavours doesn't stop our mouths from perceiving otherwise.
Besides, I never argued about presentation changing experience. Obviously it does, otherwise we wouldn't do it.
Let me put this another way. I love steak. I've had many different types of steak, from a $5 steak bought frozen from a crappy grocery, to a $15 steak from a high end grocery, to a $25 steak bought from a butcher, to a $35 steak at a mid range restaurant, to a $50 steak at a high end restaurant to a $70 steak at a specialty high end restaurant.
After you pass the $35 mark, they all taste almost completely the same. The arrangements get prettier, and that's pretty much it.
@I Are Lebo, Taste is the minds interpretation of the signals it receives from your tastebuds. This is why a placebo can work as well as a medicine. Your mind can actually change the taste of something. Smell can affect it, sight can affect it. Mood can affect it. Temperature can affect it. Etc. etc. etc.
@big freedom, taste is not solely from the mind. If it were, no two people would taste things the same. We know that people taste the same because even when not told what they are consuming, people are able to identify what they eat.
Taste is a chemical reaction, not an illusion of the mind.
And yes, your mind can change what you think you are tasting, but the actual taste doesn't change anymore than the smell does.
@big freedom, temperature is the only thing there I completely agree with. Temperature is a state of chemical reaction, as is taste.
@I Are Lebo, wrong again. You can keep trying, but you're thinking in absolutes. Of course it's a chemical reaction - that sets off a series of more reactions - with the result being an electrical impulse on your brain which then interprets that signal into what you perceive as that particular taste. If this isn't true everyone would have the exact same reaction to the same food - which obviously isn't true. Seafood is delicious to me but absolutely disgusting to my mom. Her mind interprets the signal differently than my mind does. To your point of people identifying the same food, how do you know they're tasting the same thing the same way? I can identify chicken by taste because I'm familiar with taste of chicken. You could eat the same chicken and identify it as chicken, but the "taste" could be very different. It's just that you know that it tastes like chicken because you've had chicken before.
@I Are Lebo, your interpretation of temperature is also subject to perception. 80* might be very hot to someone and kind of chilly to someone else. Even though the thermometer hasn't changed, your perception of it will be different than someone else's.
@big freedom, you're taking "perception is reality" a little bit too far.
Measuring based on feel is a ludicrous idea. If a measurement is subjective, then it is also meaningless. The point of measurement is to be able to convey the measurement to someone else.
"It feels warm" isn't a measurement, it's an opinion.
"It's 80°" isn't an opinion, it's a measurement.
80° is 80° no matter who you are. Whether 80° is hot, cold, or pleasant to you does not change the fact that it is 80°
Temperature is absolutely, one hundred percent NOT subject to perspective.
If it was, then you would risk food poisoning every time you cooked meat or went to a restaurant.
@big freedom, I think you're missing my point. However you react to a taste, however your mind interprets the data (pleasant, unpleasant, ambivalence) the data is the SAME. Chicken tastes the same to everyone who eats it. Some enjoy the taste, some don't. "Good" and "bad" are things WE assign to the taste, but the chemical components that our taste buds analyze are identical.
Sorry for the computer metaphors, that's just how I work it out logically.
@I Are Lebo, Food is for eating, not for tweeting!
@TheAwkwardDinosaur, exactly. We don't need to enjoy your food.
@I Are Lebo, W.T.F are you talking about. What is your experience with this? I have 2 degrees. Microbiology and Medical Technology. Your taste buds are physiologically different from every other person on earth (unless you have an identical twin) therefore the reaction that takes place when a food touches your taste bud is going to be different than anyone else. This reaction is what gives food "taste". Your own taste buds develop over your lifespan, so the exact same food will not even "taste" the same to you. If you had a stroke, the brain will not receive the same signal that it used to - therefore changing the "taste". I can tell you with 100% certainty that taste is absolutely, unequivocally, subject to perception. . Please stop arguing about something you obviously have no actual knowledge, but very strong opinions.
@big freedom, clearly we are never going to come to a consensus here. Which is fine.
But seriously, take your attitude and your degrees and shove them up your ass.
You want to have a debate, that's fine. I enjoy debates. I don't enjoy being insulted. If you think I'm wrong, say so. But you do not have to be condescending, which you have been from the get go. Which is strange, considering you still are arguing the wrong point.
That chemical reaction with our tastebuds changes how we perceive the taste. Whether it is good or bad. Something that is sour is always going to be sour. Taste does not change. Nobody has ever put a sour candy in their mouth and gone "this is spicy". Sour, spicy, sweet, bland, salty, whatever. Our brains and tastebuds determines how we experience the taste that is already there.
It's like a radio. Different radios sound different. Some emphasize bass, some are scratchy. But the radio waves coming in are the same.
I'm taking that metaphor a bit far,
@big freedom, but the point is this, the taste of food is not altered in any way, shape or form, by how the food is arranged on a plate.
The experience may be different. The taste is not.
@I Are Lebo, you are right, we will never come to a consensus as long as you refuse to acknowledge science rather than your opinion. Your debate skills are bad and you should stop. You're not cut out for it.
@big freedom, and you're an asshole. FYI, I didn't go through all of your responses and downvote them all simply because I disagreed with you. If you want to be an adult, you know how to reach me.
@I Are Lebo, in the dumb dumb aisle of Stupid store? Just yanking your chain dude. Have a great day.
@I Are Lebo, ahh, good times!
@big freedom, yeah, I didn’t remember the last time we argued like this. It was good going back to that.
You’re still wrong, tho. 😝
@I Are Lebo, lmao. Well played
@big freedom, 😘
She did it cause you're obviously a d!ck
It's a mushroom. Idiot doesn't even realize that she'll 1up if she drinks it
"Latte art is a serious part of the coffee experience" fffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccckkkkkkkk
How many dead babies does it take to change a lightbulb?
...clearly not 30 because my basement is still dark.
Maybe she was flirting with him. She wanted the D.
D!cks in my latte, and latte on my d!cks
Seeing that in my latte would earn them more stars
.... Just drink your goddamn coffee
Can't talk now, I'm balls deep in my coffee
I only see a reflection...?
Dickaf, ejaculatte, fapucinno
South Park was right, these people are self-centered morons
I'll stick my djck in your latte
Rofl latte art is like fine dinning? Go to a fancy restaurant for fine dinning not a damn coffee shop
And you thought pumpkin spice made the girls go crazy
Obviously its a sea turtle swimming up to the oceans surface