As someone who actually attends Hofstra, (the university where the debate will be) it's really messed up that people are giving our school 1 star reviews because "we" won't let him debate
@Mikey2Slice, yeah sorry about that... I think people forget that the venue doesn't control the event...
@Mikey2Slice, That's dumb. Hopefully they can purge false reviews.
@Mikey2Slice, you're a real bastard!
But seriously if your school is getting bummed for these reviews then y'all need some new marketing people 'cause y'all suck at it.
And welcome ladies and gents to another round of "Funny Pics Politics", let us watch as we all throw out our opinion and think downvoting someone because we don't agree with them is the way to go.
@CounterPunSniper, i came to witness and enjoy the flame war.
@CounterPunSniper, so... use the voting system as it is meant to be used? Indeed.
@CynicalSir, If you dislike what someone says, you need to man the fvck up. World is full of alternate opinions.
@CounterPunSniper, oh you mistake me for someone who doesn't. On funnypics, however, most of the time no words are needed or would help anyway.
@CounterPunSniper, wait I need to man the fvck up if I dislike what someone says? So disliking alternate opinions is unmanly now???
@Captain TR8R, As in if you downvote someone rather then trying to start a convo via replying. What does a dislike do?
@CynicalSir, Downvoting someone still doesn't really accomplish anything.
@CounterPunSniper, I know this, you know this, but a lot of people on here take it way too seriously.
@CynicalSir, Definently. Guess what I was trying to say is, if there's no point you might as well just move on.
@CounterPunSniper, for most issues on funnypics a down or upvote is all that is needed.
@CynicalSir, IMO downvotes are for if someone's being an arse. Not for conveying oppinion.
@CounterPunSniper, I think of it as a simple and quick "I disagree". I don't see why they would have this option just for people to be asses.
@CynicalSir, I guess its just a difference in the way we perceive things, arguements like these usually go nowhere. So, thanks for having this discussion with me, got me to think.
@CounterPunSniper, ya, different opinions. It happens.
@CounterPunSniper, upvote = agree or you think it's funny, downvote = disagree or you hope they are disemboweled by Elmo.
What is Aleppo?
Jill Stein 2016!
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE LOOK HIM UP. He's for everything that's good, no lie
@Tipathearrow, he's not at all. I'd vote for both major party nominees before is vote for him. He's not up to date on current events such as the bomb incidents going on and the serial stabbings in MN. He also believes in every man for himself, so that means he doesn't want taxes, which means no roads, no schools, nothing done by the government at all. That's not good at all for the people. So you should go look him up.
@Dr Kriegerstein, he's also said he isn't a conservative and imho that's enough to not vote for him. But that just me.
@CircuitPony, and for me it's the opposite side, but also the same reason why I will not vote for him either.
@Tipathearrow, ive looked him up hes the worst candidate the libertarian party couldbe put up. He is literally an sjw. I would vote hillary before i voted him. The libertarian party had a chance this election all they meeded to do was elect an actual libertarian.
@Dr Kriegerstein, I hate how some people will not vote for someone just because of how they label themselves. Like people just blindly follow their party without actually looking at the values of the candidates. That's why when someone asks me which I am I respond that I am neither, and I only follow the candidate who has the values I follow more. This being said, Hitler2016.
@ElectricalFire, Dude, Stalin 2016. Hitler is TERRIBLE at doing a proper Blitzkrieg. How can we expect him to lead america, when he can't even lead Panzer tanks properly?
@Dr Kriegerstein, honestly the biggest thing that turned my off of Gary was that he is against net neutrality which is something that he actually has the power to directly stop rather than things like taxes that Congress has more control over
@ElectricalFire, hey uh buddy. What the fvck is wrong with you?
@No Off Switch, I was turned away from him just from him not understanding anything about politics. He's too ignorant.
@Dr Kriegerstein, You should look him up too and the work he did in NM... no roads? He fixed them. There was a billion dollars of surplus, and the schools got all they needed and more. Also, @blazingbowman, sjw? Seriously? He has taken on small cases of people living their lives and blown them out of proportion in an effort to make himself look righteous? Pretty sure that is the other two candidates.
@Dr Kriegerstein, he isnt for no taxes and no goverment, he's for limited taxes and goverment. Pretty important difference. There will be plenty of roads and schools, just not tax money for stuff the goverment shouldnt be involved in. With that said, i cant vote for him either. The dude isnt really a libertarian when he supports illegal executive orders.
@Oujosh29, unfortunately the more the he wants to limit it, the more we increase national debt. The best way to improve the economy and national debt is to have increased revenue spending which he is highly against.
@Dr Kriegerstein, reducing taxes doesnt add to the debt if you also reduce spending. If the US got serious on reducing spending instead of the token attempts for relection purposes, this country's economy woukd be doing much better. The US has a spending problem, not a tax problem.
@Oujosh29, you can't achieve more with less taxes/spending. The more spending from government, the more the debt goes down. For the past few years the debt is still going up, however the rate at which it is decreasing is improving.
@Dr Kriegerstein, the more spending, the more the debt goes down? Lol, ok. The debt has doubled in 8 years, and the current "lower" deficits are still almost half a trillion dollars. Thats what spending too much does. Spending lowering debt only works in the day dreams of keynesian economists.
@CounterPunSniper, civilizations Gahndi 2016 the only real solution.
@ThatGuyx79, A true leader we can all get behind.
@Dr Kriegerstein, so more spending makes debt go away huh? I've been going about reducing my debt all wrong then!
@Captain TR8R, works for a nation, not as an individual.
@Tipathearrow, ehhh... gun control...
Otherwise I love him
@Dr Kriegerstein, well the fact that our debt continues to get worse reveals that is a lie 😂
@Captain TR8R, you didn't read what I had said earlier did you? Go look up the national debt time line. It shows how much we are in debt, how much we are losing per day, and the rate at which the debt increases. If you look closely the debt does increase, however, the rate is showing down viewing towards a positive rate. All of this is shown in real time. So before you spread ignorance by saying facts are lies, please do look more closely at the information.
@Dr Kriegerstein, and where in any of that does it prove it is going down because of increased spending? Please cite that source. Don't call me ignorant and then rely on conjectures. Correlation does NOT prove causation. You clearly didn't read what oujosh29 said did you?
@Dr Kriegerstein, I don't know where you get the no roads bit from. But he isn't against that stuff. He just wants to cut unnecessary spending so we don't need to pay as much taxes.
@Captain TR8R, I alway cited it in my last comment, I said "look up the national debt time line". It's not 2 spate things. That's just like saying acceleration doesn't influence velocity. The acceleration of the debt is decreasing, and at a pretty good rate. So yes, you are ignorant.
@2ndAmendment, it's what him and his party are all about. They don't want races at all of they could have it their way. And tell me some unnecessary spending.
@Dr Kriegerstein, No no no, please cite me a source that DEFINITIVELY proves that the reduction in the acceleration of the debt (lol) is because of the increased spending. All looking up the national debt time line shows is that it is increasing more slowly, not what factors are causing that... And no, correlation still doesn't equal causation fool. You need empirical evidence. There are numerous other factors that can influence debt besides increased spending, and you need to prove why YOU are right. You can't compare something subjective like what influences debt to something set in stone like a physics equation... That is utter nonsense.
@Dr Kriegerstein, one of the biggest wastes of money if the fact that we spend more on defense than the next 7 countries COMBINED.
@2ndAmendment, fair enough, but shouldn't we transfer those funds to something useful instead of not using it? Maybe something such as education?
@Captain TR8R, my bad, I said the wrong site. It's called national debt clock not time line. http://www.usdebtclock.org/ there is the website for it. It shows all the numbers, what we spend at the rate we spend, how much we earn. All those useful numbers.
@Dr Kriegerstein, you seem to be completely missing my point. I'm not sure if you generally confused or if you are being deliberately obtuse. I know you meant the debt clock, my point was this. All those useful numbers prove nothing except for correlation. There are literally countless factors not shown on the debt clock that affect the debt, and so the burden of proof falls on you to show without doubt why increased spending is helping the debt more than any other factor, when in fact the reality is our rampant spending created the problem in the first place. The acceleration of debt slowing down doesn't magically mean the increased spending is responsible...
@Captain TR8R, if what I have shown you isn't proof, what can you bring to the table to disprove me? You have given nothing except saying the facts I brought up don't make sense to you. I've given you evidence suggesting that I was right about our debt improving. Yet you still insist it isn't.
@Dr Kriegerstein, you are right about the debt improving. I never challenged that. You are wrong about that improvement occurring because of increased spending. All you have shown as "evidence" is correlating numbers, and for the third time correlation does not equal causation. That is a basic accepted fact on the order of the sky is blue. So you must show me evidence of instances where our rampant spending has directly influenced the decline of our debt
@Captain TR8R, "well the fact that our debt continues to get worse reveals that is a lie" don't deny what you said. That was your initial argument. Now you are going against what you said. You have zero facts/evidence to back up what you have said at all. The most you have brought to this is ignorant claims and one laughing emoji.
@Dr Kriegerstein, um the debt is getting worse. The rate at which it gets worse is decreasing, but the debt is still getting worse. So that proved your argument its getting better is a lie. And your initial argument was that increased spending is helping decrease the debt correct? You said "The more spending from the government, the more the debt goes down." The debt is clearly not going down based on the debt clock you said to go to, so your argument is based on clearly false information! And you have yet to provide anything other than correlating data to support your argument that spending is the catalyst for the reduced acceleration. Sorry mate, but in this argument the burden of proof is on YOU.
@Captain TR8R, it's not on me if I've already done so. And decreasing the rate is improvement. How can you be this dense and in denial? You know what better means right? It's improving.
@Dr Kriegerstein, how have you already done so?? All you have done is direct me to the National Debt Clock and tried to interpret those numbers to fit your narrative. How many times do I have to tell you correlation does not equal causation? Get that fact through your thick skull man! Please cite a source that definitively proves the improvement of the debt is due to increased government spending and not other factors. If you can't then quit talking in circles and wasting my time 😊
@Captain TR8R, oh yes I'm sure I'm wasting loss of your precious time, if it's so valuable stop arguing with empty rebuttals. Here's a good place to learn about ways to lower debt, go on and read, http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/6011/economics/policies-to-reduce-budget-deficit/ I believe it's the third point down that explains how increasing spending into the nation helps fuel economic growth, therfore increasing revenue for following years to get rid of debt.
@Captain TR8R, please cite something that proves I'm definitely wrong. And stop reverting back to your high school statistics class of how correlation isn't causation. I'm comparing things that directly affect each other. You can't seem to see it.
@Dr Kriegerstein, that article is talking about European nations, whose debt isn't anywhere near the level of America. Also that was only one of three points. I seem to recall saying that it was entirely possible that other factors were affecting the reduction in debt increases did I not? America is also faced with the shadow of another recession, which your own article claims cancels out any benefit of economic stimulus.
@Dr Kriegerstein, What you are doing is telling me "Oh look, the acceleration of our debt is decreasing! I also notice that government spending is Increasing. Therefore, one is directly causing the other!" I'm sorry if you never took high school statistics, but those lessons still apply in real life. Be as condescending as you wish, you can't change reality.
@Dr Kriegerstein, look it's clear we are going to have to agree to disagree. No point in continuing with this charade.
I was gonna vote for Johnson but it turns out he knows nothing about foreign policy. There's just no winning here.
Hey look its the joke i made in the comments a few days ago
But what about... DEEZ NUTS
But its too late. The debate committee agreed he didnt qualify. He needs 15% and only has 8.2%.
@double decker, there's always next election. Might as well get the ball rolling early while people are still into politics
@double decker, he only didn't qualify for the first debate, he can still qualify for the next one. He's been consistently gaining ground since he started so no sense in stopping now.
@double decker, the problem is with the way that whole process is done. They don't say "these are the polls you need to hit 15% in". They pick which polls they decide to use when they determine who will be in the debate. He's polling 15% or higher in numerous polls. He's on the ballot in all 50 states. He's raising the kind of money Bernie Sanders was during the primaries. And there's a petition with almost one million signatures to let him debate. Even if you take the 8% polling numbers, from the ones they handpicked as lower than 15%, that's still 18 million people who would like to hear from their candidate. Also Ross Perot was polling way lower than Gary Johnson was, didn't qualify for the debates, but they still let him in. This cycle they aren't allowing it because both parties know their candidates suck and the CPD is controlled by the RNC and DNC.
@Totrollornottotroll, you hit the nail on the head. The way things are going though it doesn't matter how hard they push third parties back, younger voters are going to them. My prediction is in the near future the GOP will be dead or considered an after thought, the Dems will either become socialist or be replaced by a socialist party. But I think the two biggest parties will eventually be the Libertarians and some kind of socialist party, which may not be a good thing considering how polarized that would make America.
Trump doesnt even lean that far right. On some issues he downright agrees with the democrates.
@BlazingBowman, He just leans all the way stupid.
@mas2de, says the guy with the patrick tag.
@BlazingBowman, Exactly. I'm an expert on stupid. Why would you trust someone that had little experience with a subject?
@mas2de, are you saying trump has little experience, if so on what subject or subjects
@BlazingBowman, No, I'd say he was even more experienced with stupidity than myself lol.
On a serious note for once, imo he lacks experience with dealing with people outside of business deals where he is obviously quite proficient. Trump is very opinionated and makes ridiculous remarks and decisions on the political (national and global) stage. Honestly I can't stand his brand and concentration of stupidity, and it breaks my heart that anyone actually believes his drivel and rah-rah bs. He is good at riling people up and good at getting certain people angry at scapegoat 'x' and rallying to his cause, but all of his logic is flawed and harkens back to worse social times. I know Clinton's past actions also recall dark times and events too don't get me wrong. It's just I know that scapegoating cultures and specific people had never gotten any society further in the long run. It always impedes progress.
@mas2de, I just think Trump admiring Putin tells us all we need to know about his character
@mas2de, your argument made sense, showed your views while respecting others, and isn't the typical idiotic answer..... KILL IT NOW WITH FIRE!!!! lol
@Potter314 , Just drag me to a Trump rally and say I support Hillary. Trump will support my killers, get them off in court, and you wouldn't be on the hook. *Smile and thumbup*
They are all nuts
Gary has just as sh!tty opinions as both of them do
I'm voting for Evan McMullin. He's neither a d1ck nor a nut.
Or not give your vote to someone with a 0% chance of winning this election
I'm late, but yeah!
Johnson can fix everything... Except this chipped front tooth I got while walking into my best buddy Harry