My grandparents own farms down in central California, and they always hire Mexicans to do work because they're willing to work below minimum wage. Food for thought.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, Well, it is easier to work for less when you don't pay taxes...
@PeanutButterPopsicle, I completely agree with you, but bear in mind the lives of these people include living in trucks and stealing from farms that they dont work to sell them back in Mexico. I dont believe they should be afforded any special treatment whatsoever, but it is a pitiable situation, and I feel very fortunate to be born in a country like the US, where I worry about getting top comment on an app on my phone and not about getting clean water or where I'll be sleeping tomorrow.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, So your family exploits their situation. And you're okay with that.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, Yeah, I feel the same way and applaud everyone working crappy jobs (because I am too until I go back to school for my PhD), but I don't like illegal immigrants. If they come into the country the right way and will work as hard for less or harder for less etc etc then take my job, you deserve it. What sucks is it takes 17 years on average to get a workers visa for the poor/uneducated (government being terrible, as usual) so they don't have much of a choice. Any who, goodnight kind stranger.
@WilfredMott, They are my family, but I don't generally see them that often, so its not like I have execitive power over farm employment. If my grandparents wanted to pay minimum wage for farmwork, they'd pay actual citizens of the country with proven experience from past employers. The "illegals" use their willingness to work below minimum wage as a selling point for using their services. They aren't the ones being exploited in this situation.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, *executive
@PeanutButterPopsicle, lots of emigrants pays taxes, I do it.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, I heard on the news that Japanese companies were employing American because we are now working for less because it's better then no job at all.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, I like turtles
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, minimum wage is a joke, you can work two full time jobs at minimum wage and you will work like a dog for the rest of your life and when you retire you won't have a penny to your name.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, Immigrants are willing to work below minimum wage because of their situation. People who pay them the bare minimum are taking advantage of the immigrants' situation. They don't use it as a selling point. They just want jobs to support their families.
@Deleted, Everyone pays sales tax when you buy goods. And of course immigrants pay taxes. If you immigrated, that makes you an AMERICAN. Illegal immigrants don't have to pay things like property taxes. There are many other taxes. Since the illegal immigrants are also not register, taxes can't be taken from their wages.
@Deleted, just because you are an immigrant doesn't mean you are illegal. The illegals are the only ones in question here. And if you actually did mean illegals, and you are one, get the hell out!!! I hope you get deported!!!
@Halo2552, wow dude.. how old are you?? Ur so wrong.. I came to this country @ couple years ago.. and I really know the difference between grocery taxes and working hard taxes... most of us, we are not stupid ppl.. and maybe you don't know that we use a tax id. . Whit that we pay taxes at work like you or even higher. Maybe mi English is not the best but I understand 3 languages and live very confortable :)
@Deleted, Thats good.
@Caaaarl, jajaja do u think I'll give a fvck about what u think... lol I was illegal like most of ur parents or grandpas.. this country was made for emigrants, you are just like a new seed that doesn't matter..
@WilfredMott, but that's not of my business
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, A selling point? I've never been more furious in my life. And it's not some humanist sentiment. I'm just enraged at how phucking backwards that statement was. You and your family are the worst kind of despicable there is. You exploit people and act like it THEIR fault for being desperate. Don't bother replying. I don't want to hear whatever feeble rebuttal or backtrack you come up with.
@WilfredMott, Did you bother reading my other comments? I guess not. Basically, I'll summarize them for you by saying my grandparents would not hire the illegal immigrants if they demanded minimum wage, they'd instead hire actual legal residents of this country who would provide arguably more skilled labor. They came to my grandparents offering to work for less to secure the job, so they got it. That's what a selling point means. Once again, had they asked for minimum wage, they would not have been hired. They dont deserve minimum wage either, by the way. They steal and damage property constantly on other farms that refuse to hire them. That's how the world works: people steal, hurt, and work for less than minimum wage to advance in the world. Get over it. Also if you want to call my grandparents despicable for that, fine. But don't presume that I have any part of it, I live in Roseville. I welcome a reply, because I'm not a pathetic anonymous person with no stomach for debate.
@WilfredMott, And you saying that this is the most furious you've ever been in your life is pretty amusing. Not only have you misinterpreted what I was saying, but you allowed something on the internet to get you mad. Don't be upset over things in a comments section, most of the time; people aren't telling the truth in it. Be mad at things that happen to you in real life, like if illegal immigrants break into your grandparents' home and break everything they cant steal. Meanwhile, skilled workers born in this country cant get a job because they're bound by minimum wage. Want to know what I think my grandparents should do? Let the illegals rot and pay an honest, legal wage for an honest, legal worker. No exploitation to be found there! Just a lot more hungry illegals. Is that what you wanted? No? Well then be grateful that people like my grandparents are willing to give them a less than minimum wage rather than a call to the police.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, Wait! I want to make a commen- *notices massive comments* *walks away*
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, there are homeless people who worry about food and sleep that are from US and live in the US :p
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, Do you usually see a white person go for those types of jobs? No. Mostly because they don't know how because they're apparently in the "better" country. Immigrants, like Mexicans know how to do their jobs well at least. So how about we let them be and god bless everyone because no one here is better then anyone else. We're all equals trying to make a living in this messed up world.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, I'm pretty sure that it's illegal for a company to pay below min. wage for its employees
@missUNpleasant, Yes I do. Do you have family in agriculture? Lots and lots of white people in that area want jobs on a farm, and most high school age kids in that area are willing to work for minimum wage.
@Flopus, Oh snap forreal? Isnt it also illegal to sneak into the country and steal from farms and ranches? They aren't official employees, nor official residents of this country.
@2Chainz 4Bracelets, not everyone is the same. There are bad immigrants as well as there are bad Americans. You happen to be fortunate enough to have a good life. We could never understand the immigrant's minds. Let's just let them be. Let them live their lives and we'll live ours.
@missUNpleasant, Yes, thats exactly what Im saying. I feel that I was misinterpreted in this thread. All I wanted to do was point out that illegal immigrants have an advantage in the form of not being bound by minimum wage. While this may not be wholly good for them, it really sucks for workers in this country, who cant get a minimum wage job.
Immigrant don't take our jobs they fill the jobs that no one else wants. There are plenty of jobs available but most people won't take them because they are to good for them. Immigrants are accepted for the better of your country.
@AllyPallyCake, I've worked with H2B visa (legal work permit) guys before. According to them they'd make about $10 per day in Mexico and up here they'd make that per hour. The illegals are willing to put up with way more because they've got nobody to turn to. It's a Catch-22, man.
@Texas exes , why everything is about mexico?? I'm from colombia and I know ppl from argentina, spain, brazil, Uruguay, itali, asia... do you think, not me.. México is like a big problem because of their roots but not every emigrant comes from mexico!!
@AllyPallyCake, "No one else wants" that's the biggest crock of sh$t! Government makes regulations controlling wages, and encourages people to not work by making welfare easily accessible and removing the social stigma that used to go with it.
Well maybe I come over the fence. No no no no. Okay maybe I come around this side? No no no no. Then I come around the other side? No no no no. Okay I help finish building fence. Okay.
Dey turk 'r jrbbbbssss!!
I love when I look at all the picture from the last update, then hit refresh and new pictures magically appear. It's like they know how bored I am
First! (Gets deported)
@KaiserWilhelmthe2nd, quit yer goofin
@KaiserWilhelmthe2nd, We'll deport you to the fvcking moon.
@sombrero mop, more like deport you into an active volcano.
@sombrero mop, why go through all the trouble? He's already in WWI, why not just shove him into the trenches, let it sort itself out.
Or maybe... they works for pennies in the dollar
When you own a company and can't get any bids because your competition all have illegal immigrants workers getting paid half...
Everything is funnier when your drunk
11 July 2014 #11July2014
I just got promoted..,
@FruityLittleBoy, congrats! And to what may I ask?
Well I'm a high schooler so I'll take any job I can get. I've been working dishboy at round table for a couple months now and I got promoted to pieline. My coworkers hate me for it though because it happened so fast lol
@FruityLittleBoy, if it happened fast it must be because you're doing great, so keep doing what you're doing. I hope it goes well.
Thanks! I've had a lot of luck with this job so I always go above and beyond. Best of luck to you!
@FruityLittleBoy, did you really? Did you really lol?
That's... That's a very good point
Louis C.K. is brilliant
Or it's because the foreigner is willing to work for $2 per hour. Funny pics politics.
Fun fact: the minimum wage was historically a racist policy. White workers were frustrated that black and Latino workers were willing to work harder, for longer hours, for less money, and accumulating a good chuck of the wealth in their communities.
@Hotchkiz, bruh minimum wage started when a lot of mostly white immigrants from Europe who were working in terrible conditions around the 20's(I think not really sure of the date).
I work as an Industrial Electrician in the gas and oil sector in Alberta, Canada. And we have SOOOOOOO many imports! Like, 70% of our site is imports. But the government makes budget cuts, less Canadians get trained, hire more imports, and that money leaves the country... It's a vicious circle.
The thing is they tend to be desperate and work for cheap taking up the bottom of the workforce.
Check out those tacos in the first pic.
So in other news LeBron's signing with Cleveland
That's not true! *sobs in the corner*
That's not true! *sobs quietly in the corner*