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@Monad Vairocana, to be clear, I’m talking about the meme, in that this app never targets the propaganda from Fox as far as I’ve seen. Fox has been displaying videos burning cities when discussing actual peaceful protests to discredit those protests. That said, I’m aware that CNN isn’t perfectly honest either and I don’t really follow them as a news source either.
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@Monad Vairocana, Perhaps because everyone already knows that Fox is biased as hell? Fox has been blatantly biased since at least the days of Obama, but CNN actually did try to keep somewhat objective, and then when Trump got elected that went out the window. Thing is, people used to say that Fox is right, MSNBC is left, and CNN is middle. I think it is important for people to recognize that CNN is not middle, not at all. CNN is not objective, not moderate, not purely fact based. Fox never has been, and CNN no longer is.
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@The Mythic Canuck, well, two things about that, first, considering how much of social media is dominated by and saturated with leftists, I think having a few places that are somewhat more right leaning isn’t the end of the world (and personally I think Funny Pics is actually a lot more mixed ideologically) and second, not to rail too hard against leftists here, but honesty the more left leaning a community or platform tends to be, the more censorship and political correctness there is, and then you end up with a somewhat awkward environment where memes and jokes have to be analyzed multiple times to see if they are going to be considered offensive, and that’s the kind of situation where humor does not thrive. We have a few users on here even that feel the need to point out when they think something is racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamaphobic, etc. and to be honest, that is far more annoying than right wingers. We don’t need that kind of censorship.
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@Block1187, so what you are saying is that things are funnier if they are offensive; and that people (ex: the other users you exampled) who only want to see their fellow man behaving in a way that’s inclusive to everyone are obnoxious censoring killjoys. Then you are saying that “we don’t need that kind of censorship”, which does two things. 1. You effectively are saying that racist, homophobic or whatever humour is okay and should be accepted (which hurts real people), and 2. You are performing the same censoring act that they are. You might benefit from reevaluating how you act online. You come across as hypocritical.
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@The Mythic Canuck, No, being racist isn’t inherently funny. But having the freedom to make jokes, memes, etc. that are potentially offensive is a great thing. Do you think Jerry Seinfeld is racist because he refuses to perform on college campuses for this very reason? What about any of the other famous comedians that have taken the same course of action? The kind of pc atmosphere that exists in certain circles and environments like college campuses is very stifling to comedy. Comedy is best when it’s free to be edgy, and when it goes too far, it’s just not funny. But we don’t need pc police reminding everyone that protected groups are off limits, in comedy, nothing is off limits, that’s the point.
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@The Mythic Canuck, as to your other claims, firstly, you can stop with the whole “hurts real people” bs. That is the most common line of attack used by leftists to silence free speech, I went to school at a University where that exact line of attack was used to try to deny the college republicans the right to declare their support for Trump. Free speech must always be protected above the feelings of “real people.” And I say that not to be insensitive, but because literally any kind of speech can potentially be take as offensive or hurtful to some person or group of persons. You can’t block speech for that reason. As to your second thing, also something I hear a lot. No. I am not censoring nor encouraging censorship. If you want to criticize posts as being offensive for this reason or that, go for it. If you want to play the role of pc police on this app, feel free to do so. You may be downvoted to hell for it, but funny pics very much protects the right of people to post memes and/or
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@The Mythic Canuck, comments that may be unpopular or even hurtful. That’s the beauty of a free exchange. When I speak out against pc police and whatnot it is generally in the context of things be censored so that they cannot be viewed at all, memes or comments being blocked. Critiquing memes and comments is not tantamount to censoring them. As I said before, if you feel compelled to label something as offensive, go for it. That’s not censorship, nor is calling out people for one reason or another. Don’t confuse criticism for censorship.
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@hollow114, the things is, that was the case then. Now cnn is the antithesis to fox. They are two literal polar opposites and neither report the truth. They both try to push a very specific narrative that divides people. To get a glimmer of the truth you almost have to watch both at the same time. And even then you have to discern the middle ground between the two and that’s the closest to the truth you get.
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@Block1187, I think that what you have said here is very well put together. You clearly are passionate about this. That’s commendable. Unfortunately you still seem to be missing the point. Your right to free speech has nothing to do with the basic human decency required to not produce or propagate ideas intended to harm other people over things like race, religion, sexuality, gender, etc. What you seem to be missing is that just because you can make offensive jokes doesn’t mean you should. Good job defending being a dick on purpose. It’s like you think that comedy used to hurt and comedy used to encourage change through criticism are the same thing. Now spare me this pious lecture and quit dragging the right to free speech through your mud.
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@The Mythic Canuck, If being offensive was an objective concept we would all be on the same page. Unfortunately it’s not, and therefore we have a problem when it comes to what decency does or does not entail. There are certain issues which have legitimate variance in view points, issues like whether churches can preach against homosexuality, whether the US has the right to secure its southern border, and other such issues. Unfortunately it seems most often the left labels such issues as racist or not racist, homophobic or not homophobic, and it’s just not that simple, never has been. So when we talk about defending the right of people to be dicks (as though leftists don’t also benefit from the right to be dicks), we are assuming that if someone’s speech is offensive to someone else, or some other group of people, they are being dick. I prefer not to turn complex social issues into black and white, decent or not decent dichotomies. There are people who don’t support the ERA and it
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@The Mythic Canuck, doesn’t make them sexist, there are people who believe deeply in scripture and therefore that homosexuality is sinful, and it doesn’t make them homophobic. There are people who believe that national security requires we maintain the US-Mexican border, perhaps even by building a wall, and that doesn’t make them racist. But to many leftists it’s simply “indecent” to have a differing view point on these issues, and therefore it’s ok to silence them. Therein lies the problem friend, it’s not a matter of being decent or not, it’s a matter of who gets to decide what decency is, and what views are acceptable. Promoting free speech promotes the idea that there is potentially more than one answer to complex problems, being against free speech insists there is only one answer, on agreed upon way of thinking that isn’t offensive to certain groups, one orthodoxy for all. You’re right, being a decent person means not being a dick, but who gets to decide what constitutes being a
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@The Mythic Canuck, dick, and what if I disagree with that definition. People have the right to be dicks simply because there isn’t a standard objective method for defining who is a dick. The left used to be against the idea of the government regulating morality (the right was and still is very much in favor of it) but it’s interesting to see how times have changed.
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@Duncan5769, i try to be neither left nor right. Do tend to lean more right tho but the more i step back and look, the more i realize both sides are the same. We for some reason want war so badly that when there is no big villian, we divide ourselves into 2 groups and fight each other. Both sides have their extremists who would be unafraid to create lies or paint the truth to suit them. Im right, your wrong. If your not x side, your wrong. As if we fųckin really know whats truely right and wrong anymore.
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@hollow114, sorry, let me clarify. More people have died in the riots than unarmed people have been killed at the hands of the police this year. You can look up deaths by police on the Washington Post database and sort it by year, weapon, race, etc. According to the database, there have been 28 unarmed people killed by police this year. For deaths from BLM riots it’s harder but there were 19 confirmed by Forbes back in early June when they stopped keeping track. They list all their names so you can google each one. Most sources say it’s surpassed 40 people now, but no one is keeping a database of local news agencies on that like they are police shootings. Either way, Chifilo’s comment is psychotic. There should be NO deaths during “protests”. That’s third world stuff.
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@Snarfel Burger, I'm not going to bother refuting your data. I will assume it's correct though I doubt it. And this is the problem with America. A police officer, dully appointed by the government, trained in defending and serving the people of the United States. Should be held to a higher standard than a civilian and I don't know why civilian on civilian crime is brought to a debate regarding police officers abusing the task they have been given at all. And when you compare police to police America looks much worse than anywhere else.
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@hollow114, I don’t feel like asking civilians to not burn down stores, loot, and murder people is really that high of a standard. In any case, we DO hold our police to an extremely high standard. Why would this kind of civil unrest be happening over the death of criminals if we weren’t holding our police to ridiculous standards? We want them to be able to go into life threatening situations and subdue violent people all without putting a scratch on them. Which they do, very well, daily. You won’t hear about the times they do it right, and why would you, IT’S DAILY! Civilian on civilian crime IS the discussion. The picture was about riots and @Chifilo brought up cops. Not sure where your confusion is? And if you’re going to compare police to police in other countries, you should also compare our violent crime rates. The foreign police you’re thinking of likely wouldn’t last two seconds on American streets.
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