Is it because it's really blue and blue means a boy vs pink means a girl?
@Jeancul, that's the joke...
@ThePandaPool , Was not sure.
@Jeancul, whoever downvoted you is a fool. We've all missed a joke here and there. Here take this *hands upvote*
@Jeancul, Lol clearly you understood the joke but felt the need to clarify since what you understood wasn’t funny... I gotchu.
@Blasphemy is Fun, I don't think he understood the joke, I think he was asking as to whether his best guess to what the joke was was correct. I don't really get the joke either, honestly. Though I do get the impression that it wouldn't be funny even if I did get it.
@Marida Cruz, lol I’m thinking the same thing
Congratulations! It's a Godzilla!
Congrats for your ayy lmao
This was in Astoria, New York City. Saw the sky glowing blue for a whole night. What a sight.
@Amar54, yeah was crazy xD I work by it
That’s a big baby
Looks more like aliens are attacking to me.
@ThePandaPool , not nearly enough
Since the 1st of Jan 2019 - You can choose to have a third Gender in all your official Paper male/female/diffrent
What do yall think about this ?
@ifyouaskme, i think its the dumbest fvcking thing imaginable seeing as there are only two genders...
@MMSieBreeze, in German, the words for male/female and woman/man are often the same, so it's not limited to gender, but rather as what you identify. Now if that's any better is up to debate. But I think it'll stop a) whiny people from complaining so much and b) be an actual good option for some people. I mean, the third option does no harm to anyone, and some people benefit from it, so why not.
@A pet named Steve, by that logic we should tell anyone suffering from delusions that what they are experiencing is real even though it isn’t. Ben Shapiro makes a great argument on why encouraging this behavior is in fact not helping these people in any way.
@ThatGuyx79, I love Ben Shapiro. I should check that out, then.
@A pet named Steve, and I hate to point this out, but you can't allow people not to write their biological sex on everything. For example, doctors don't care if you're a guy or girl, they need to know though, because men and woman are fundamentally different, and sometimes require different treatments, or need to be aware of different risks. When people write down they are gender fluid, they are only making the doctors jobs harder. This also go for physiologists, because men and woman tend to worry about different things, and some methods will work better on some biological sexes then others.
@Duncan5769, I know, that's why I mentioned that in German, it does not necessarily mean biological sex. If it's about the biological sex, I'm with you. But it can also mean the thing that you identify as, not the biological one. Does that even make sense? Sorry, it's half past five in the morning and I'm a mess rn.
@A pet named Steve, yeah, but gender identity is fairly new to my knowledge, and personally I don't think it makes sense. What does me calling myself a girl change? Nothing. If I really felt like I wish I was born a female, just calling myself a female doesn't change anything. (Surgery doesn't make people less depressed either) I was born a man, and weather or not I like it, that's what I am, but that doesn't limit me in anyway, I can still do anything identifying as a man, as I could do identifying as a woman (except join woman only stuff, like sports) the idea of gender identity is confusing too, because you can now have 2 genders. Your biological sex, and the gender you identify as. There's no need for gender identity though, don't let being a man or woman stop you from doing what you want. Also I don't know if this is coming across as angry, or me trying to start an argument, just pretend I was speaking like a little angel when you read this XD
@ifyouaskme, does this mean I can have a sex change to “different” and enter any bathroom? I hate lines at shows
@Duncan5769, ah I perfectly know what you mean. Tbh, since I am not affected by this gender-identification, I can't really speak about what it is or how it feels. But I know decent people who struggle with this and I do believe them. Ah man I don't know. It's too late for me to think properly haha. And I don't want to say anything wrong and accidentally kick off an argument.
@A pet named Steve, fair enough XD. I don't think we'd argue, I think this particular subject invokes so many arguments, we are both just being really careful not to step on each other's toes XD
@Duncan5769, absolutely xD oh well. Maybe we should just call it a day, then. Or a night. My biorhythm is really fvcked.
@A pet named Steve, if you like Ben Shapiro I would recommend checking out Steven Crowder (guy from the "change my mind" meme) he is a bit more crude in some areas, and a fair amount of what he does is American ideology/ politics which you may or may not be interested in, but you may like some of his videos.(i like the change my mind videos because I enjoy watching and taking part in civilized discussion of ideas)
@Wolfbane, I see. I'll check it out! But like you said, American ideology and politics are usually not my #1 interest, but I enjoy listening to people who know what they're talking about.
@ifyouaskme, Only if you are medically diagnosed as ‘intersex’ - where it is genuinely medically unclear what gender you are. For example; having both a penis & a vagina, or a vagina but recessed testicles instead of ovaries.
You can’t just choose it because you feel like it, you have to fit strict medical criteria.
Affects less than 1.7% of the population.
@MMSieBreeze, It’s only an option if you are medically diagnosed as ‘intersex’ - where it is genuinely medically unclear what gender you are. For example; having both a penis & a vagina, or a vagina but recessed testicles instead of ovaries. It’s not a SJW thing, has to fit strict medical/biological criteria.
@A pet named Steve, I like listening to the stuff because I live in America. But he does talk on some of the same things as Ben Shapiro and if some of those topics interest you than its probably worth checking out. Anyways I'm about to go to bed hopefully you have a good day/night.
@Wolfbane, ok, thanks for the info! And sleep well! ^^
@A pet named Steve, having a third option does in fact harm. Biologically speaking, it’s complete nonsense. Not having a record of the actual biological sex will cause people to be misdiagnosed and mistreated because contrary to the narrative involved, there IS a difference between the sexes. This could legitimately kill.
@A pet named Steve, I'm glad to hear you love Ben Shapiro, truly you Germans are an intelligent people haha
@I Are Lebo, The third option is only available for people who are medically diagnosed as being biologically intersex - they basically have to have had a qualified doctor look at their junk when they were born, shrug and go “beats me mate, could be either”. Think physical hermaphroditism, having both a penis & a vagina, having a vagina but testicles instead of ovaries, that sort of thing. It’s not a SJW “I don’t identify as a single gender” thing, it’s a “nature done goofed up on this one” thing.
In general, it is biologically accurate. They could look like a woman outside, but have internal testicles - so need a prostate exam more than a smear test - so it tells the doctor not to be surprised by what they find down there.
@Duncan5769, yeah cuz it might be important to know whether you have a prostate or not...
@Nellybert , intersex is not its own gender. Even in instances where the chromosomal makeup has been altered by a genetic mutation or defect resulting in YY, XYY, XXY, or XXX, those are not standalone genders any more than a child born with a tail or a third arm are new species (look up the frequency. More children are born with tails than with both sets of genitals).
In the instances of a child born with both sets of genitals, in nearly all cases one set is vestigial and non functional. A female with XY chromosomes IS possible, in instances where the body rejects testosterone. But this is an incredibly rare birth defect and does not constitute a third gender. Humanity is a sexually dimorphic species, that’s why it requires a male’s sperm and a female’s ovum for conception to occur.
There’s a confusing of identity and gender here. Gender is not a subjective term referring to how you feel. As proof of this I ask a simple question. What does it mean to feel like a female? Someone born
male does not have the frame of reference for the statement “I feel like a woman” to have any actual meaning. How would you know what that felt like and how could you possibly distinguish the feeling of being in the wrong body from the delusion of feeling in the wrong body?
But that’s getting off track, because genetic anomalies do fit the criteria of what gender ACTUALLY means, which is a reference to the psychological aspects of sex. Transgenderism is absolutely a real phenomenon, but that’s a person of one sex identifying as and desiring to be the other. The nonsense behind non binary has no roots in biology whatsoever. It’s rooted in a psychological drive for uniqueness and a deep seeded need for individuality combined with a coddling background and an insistence that one can literally be whatever they want and that reality is purely subjective and so what is real and what isn’t must also be subjective.
The unfortunate reality is that fantasy and reality are not the same, and no
amount of wishing is going to make your fantasies come true, especially when those fantasies are legitimately deluded.
Believing yourself to be a third gender doesn’t make it real anymore than believing yourself to be the reincarnation of Napoleon does.
@I Are Lebo, This is on no way about how people ‘feel’ - we’re not talking about non-binary, gender-fluid, gender-queer, or any other terms made up on tumblr. It is literally only for the tiny handful of people who do not biologically correspond to either physical gender. I believe that the main idea behind it is that when a child is born and the gender is not confirmed (as in they’re an hermaphrodite) they can be put down as intersex until they’re old enough for one gender or the other to become dominant. Avoid situations of them arbitrarily picking one gender and it turning out to be wrong a few years later.
@Nellybert , yes, there certainly is the difference between presented gender and biological. But there is no biological third sex OR gender. Intersex is not its own gender, it’s a defect. An anomaly. Typically either one set is non functional or BOTH genitals are non functional.
In either event, that’s not a third gender. If that’s all we’re talking about, it really ought to be a short discussion. Yes intersex people exist. That isn’t a third gender.
@I Are Lebo, Let’s just get one thing straight - this is nothing to do with people who call themselves non-binary, people who ‘feel’ like the other gender, transsexuals, or just snowflakes wanting to be special.
It is literally only for people who are biological freaks - not ‘has a penis but is a bit effeminate’ or ‘has a vagina but likes Action Man’. It is so that if a baby is born with indeterminate gender, instead of picking on the spot and doing essentially gender assignment surgery on a baby, they can flag it up as a question mark for a while until it’s clearer which of the two genders they actually are - and then they can get sorted out.
@I Are Lebo, So when a baby is born with a penis and a vagina, what should they be put down as?
@Nellybert , And to be clear - I agree that all there are only two genders (not the SJW 27 or whatever it is now) and that any baby tagged as intersex should be picking one or other as an adult. However, there isn’t a ‘comments’ section on a birth certificate to allow them to add notes about this stuff, so if they’re going to flag it anywhere then ‘gender’ is pretty much the only category they can put it under.
@Nellybert , like I said earlier, in most cases of hermaphroditism, there is a clear primary sex. One set of genitals is fully formed, and the other isn’t. In these cases, the doctor performs corrective surgery as soon as possible to fix what is an actual, literal birth defect. In some countries it isn’t even mandatory for the doctor to make note of the procedure, which can lead to the parents never even finding out.
In the exceptionally rare cases (literally less than 0.001% of the population) where both sets of genitalia are fully formed and functional, the standard is to give the parents the choice of corrective surgery. This decision is not made lightly. Entering puberty with both functioning testicles and functioning ovaries is very harmful to a person, the problem isn’t just social. The hormone cocktail humans have throughout puberty is hard enough with just one set.
In those cases, if enough time is passing without the correction being done that it isn’t feasible to leave the
sex field on the birth certificate blank, then the doctor should put down an I for Intersex. The key word there is inter. Halfway between sexes is not it’s own sex. It’s like the difference between 1, 2, and 1.5. 1.5 is not a whole number and intersex is not a whole gender.
@Nellybert , I think what I’m trying to say is that, while I don’t 100% back this, and I do think that gender is binary (and legal labelling should correspond to what you’re biologically closest to, not what you think you feel like) I kinda understand that there are going to be a *very* small number of times when a child’s body will require longer than 9 months for one or other gender to become dominant. And in those circumstances it sort of makes sense for them to be able to hold off on putting M or F (or the German equivalent) on the birth certificate etc, then do the gender assignment surgery once it’s a little more clear which set of junk actually has working plumbing behind it - at which point the paperwork can be updated to M or F.
It’s not an ideal solution, and it certainly shouldn’t be an option for people to swap to it because they want to - at present it requires specialist medical certification, and that shouldn’t be relaxed.
@I Are Lebo, I agree that intersex isn’t a gender - but there isn’t any other field on the birth certificate where they can put it. I also agree that this should only be used in an extremely small number of cases, specifically those where they need to give the child’s body a little more time to develop in order to see which of the two genders is the dominant (for want of a better word) one - at which point, do the surgery and update the paperwork to M or F.
It should never be an ‘opt-in’ thing for adults, and it should only be a temporary measure for the babies.
@Nellybert , I’m not clear on where we actually disagree, here. In most cases, the decision is clear because one set of genitals are vestigial. In the rare cases where it’s not, the parents have to weigh the decision between choosing now or later and risking both physical and psychological issues either way.
The big problem with this issue is the pervasive notion that doctors ‘assign’ sex at birth. This notion is rooted in ignorance. The sex marked down is based on the observation and in outliers or natural gender non conformity, the system gets confused.
One of my friends dated a genetic shemale for a while. Her name was Spencer and she was entirely female except for her penis and testicles. She presented female, but her birth certificate marked her as male.
So what? Most people rarely use their birth certificates, and changing a system to fit every outlier will make it useless for the majority which defeats the purpose of the system to begin with.
But the end result is the same. Adding a ‘miscellaneous’ category on official documentation for gender does not a third gender make.
@MMSieBreeze, if only two genders. than what gender is a person born with both genitalia?
@pablo2420, still only the 2 put into 1 body via birth defect...
@pablo2420, hermaphrodites typically have a dominant sex based on their genetic makeup. There are outliers, but usually if they have a Y chromosome, they’re male, and if they don’t, they’re female. Exceptions to this rule are super rare. When a person is born with both genitals, one of them is almost always non functional and only partially formed.
It‘s a city!
I'm pretty sure this was a nuclear reactor having a meltdown or something similar and everyone thought it was aliens.
@Chips and IceCream, just a transformer, don't blow it that far out of proportion
@Chips and IceCream, you do know that when a reactor melts down, there usually isn't an explosion because of it, unless another component has a failure as well
@Chips and IceCream, I can tell you exactly what it was, it was an electrical substation in Astoria NY a couple blocks from my job, freaked people out and caused some outages but it was patched quickly
Dammit it’s another baby attack helicopter