I hate that line of thinking. Even with inflation, college is still 500-600 times more expensive. I went to a cheap college and had grants, I was still responsible for 10 grand.
@Sr5turbo, the problem is, both sides REALLY don't have any idea the effect guaranteed government backed student loans have. The debt has no real upper limit as long as everyone else raises it too, and the institution gets the money upfront, and it's the borrowers problem to pay it back. This hyperinflates the school price, and none of the students know enough beyond "college equals 'real jobs" to fight it. And old people just think "it went up but so has my groceries, they can do it if they buckle down"
@thrawnfett, I 100% agree. I just wish that if it's going to be expensive, then teachers should get some of that money.
@Sr5turbo, administrators have a higher return aka bang for the buck, which is why the rise of "administrators" directly tracks with price
@thrawnfett, i cant even begin to explain how accurate this comment is
@thrawnfett, old college professors know though. They would often rant about how crazy it is now to get a degree.
@wulfzen, they DID get to live it, which is why I tend to hard respect any professor over 50, and hard disrespect one under 40. The gap is case by case. History under 40 tends to still be respectable, "sociology at 49 can fu@k themselves lol
@thrawnfett, they let this happen because modern economics runs on debit so this medical anything and bail bonds all are what make our dollar have value and of course those who happen to be collecting can do as they please with debetors because when the its has their own police force resistance is futile
@Sr5turbo, community college for the core classes then transfer for specialty ones
@Sr5turbo, oh yeah, like, I get to go tuition free, and while I fvcked around and wasted some time before figuring out the smart thing was drop out until I figured out what I wanted to do (nursing and finish my philosophy degree as a double major), by the time I graduate in 2yrs, I will have ~$40k in debt
@thrawnfett, I think the colleges/universities should be co-signers on school loans so they have a vested interest in helping students succeed. In an ideal world they would already have such interest, but this is the real world. That may also force them to toss the useless degrees because they’ll only lose money on those.
@thrawnfett, dont forget all the loans schools took out to make their schools better to attract more students. These loans often had a 10 year no payment plan but interest still accrued. So now current students are paying more for the same or sometimes even less.
*laughs in trades*
@YourProudFather, fvck you man. A lot of us as kids and young adults were brainwashed into thinking we needed college degrees to have any sense of independence in this $hit hole failed social experiment called America.
@Chifilo, Wish I had just skipped college. I went to the cheapest school in my state and all I got was a piece of paper. If I had invested all that money I'd be rich rn. Bitcoin was cool when I was in highschool and if I wasn't saving all my money for college I would have got some at least.
@Chifilo, America isn't failed, just the people who want government to have all the power (opposite of America) have been running the schools for years. They then convince kids they need college degrees, which has become more of a business than a learning institution, and look down on anyone who doesn't have a degree.
I never heard 1 mention in school about a trade, except for 1 40 something year old teacher in grade 8, who said his friend was a tradesman and made double what he makes.
@YourProudFather, what trade?
@Chifilo, so move
@YourProudFather, laughs in gi bill benefits
@Chifilo, my take away from this is you’re gullible. Would you like to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
@Chifilo, I'm sorry you got brainwashed. I really am. This is one reason why I'm glad I didn't go to public school.
But America is only be driven into such a situation now, with the way the government is treating it. It's still barely the greatest country.
Ya Phil, you dumb b!tch
I graduated with a business degree working full time and going to school full time without receiving any grants, loans or scholarships. If I could do it so can you.
@Velocitaptor, I.... *looks around* didn't go to college, and went into a trade at 19.... got my certificate, and bought a house by 27. And from about 19-24 all of my friends in college made fun of me, saying I'm a far as ill ever go.
Now, 10 years after, they're just paying off their loans, and if they got married within 2 years of graduating, they can maybe afford a starter home.
@werp zerp snickel, I just bought a house last month so I am gucci.
She was able to work just over 400 hours to pay off her loans. We have to work at LEAST 2000 to do the same.
@Chifilo, 2000/(52*4)= 9.6. That’s how many hours a week that is during college. Maybe you should’ve taken a few math classes while you were there?
This old bitch…
You don’t need a degree to work part time at Woolworth....
@Ducbil, A lot of us didn’t know that. We were convinced have any kind of job you needed a college degree
If you apply for a lot of scholarships so you at least get a few grand and use an in state community College then transfer to an in state university it will greatly cut down on your need to borrow money.
Lesson: I went to a very expensive college for Digital Art, Graphics, and 3D Modeling and Animation. I wanted to either work in video games or movies. One day it struck me. When I couldn’t do something in the software and I wanted to expand my abilities I turned to a very young YouTube. Like 2005 era. I realized a kid, about 8 years old, was giving me tutorials on how to do something I didn’t know. I knew then it wasn’t for me. I went back to what I did at 8 years old. You don’t need a degree. And it looks way stupid to realize there are things you can teach yourself. A doctor? Not the same thing. You want to be a lawyer and or a doctor or Astronaut you better muster up that money. But there are a lot of jobs out there you don’t need to be in debt for. I’m still in debt and I will pay it gladly for my late ignorance. My responsibility.
@MrTrivia, and remember there are a lot of famous people who dropped out of college or high school and became rich millionaires or billionaires. And by doing the things they love or realized there was potential in some market. Google them. Or be lazy and not and complain why you’re in debt.
This bitch sat behind Jesus in school