Nah we need to keep the working class in a state of suffering so they are never happy
@DrSin, let’s be real, most “working class” wouldn’t know what to do with the extra money anyway.
@npforever, right just like government keeps telling us Money doesn’t buy happiness, so will earn it all so you can’t test that fact for yourself, I mean, who would be happy with no months bills ?
@npforever, yeah so we should just let rich people have it all! We don’t deserve financial stability or money for luxury or recreation. Balmer only has one NBA team and here I am complaining about my $70k debt like a selfish asshat.
But then how are they gonna send boat loads of cash to various groups and random countries around the world? Even when our government overlords give back to us it’s ultimately for their own benefit.
Sure, but then we are going to charge you a fair portion to do public works, coordinate mail, military expenses, maintain the GPS network, etc....
@Sr5turbo, I've got $3
@Sr5turbo, Ok but can we at least stop giving money to other countries that hate us please?
@Nekozombie, gov: "Zip it, antisemite!"
Person: "I meant like Pakistan."
Gov: "We meant Islamophobe."
@Nekozombie, or just stop giving money to other countries in general til we get our shjt together
@Ajunta Pall, islamaphobe? Hahaha, no... i think youll find theyre more scared of me
@Guy Fawkes, based
@Nekozombie, or even those that like us, either way
I hate the word stolen when it comes to taxes. You have a choice. You can leave this country and form a colony somewhere else if you wanted to. You dont get to just live here and not help pay for the amenities that protect its greatness.
@CocoasBro, no you actually can't just leave. There is no where that isn't claimed to form a new country, and any country you go to would have to accept you first.
At some point reasonable taxation crosses a line to excessive, before crossing a line into theft. We aren't asking for no taxes, just lower it to excessive but not theft.
@CocoasBro, just because a bunch of people vote to take your money doesn’t make it not theft
@AverageIdiot, sure there is. There are even places inside this country where you can go and not be taxed. Places in south americas, africa, up north. If you put a little effort into it you can find places without taxation and even without government.
@Snarfel Burger, it's not theft when you're receiving something in return. Police, fire, ems, roads, libraries, parks, sidewalks, trash pickup, traffic lights, schools, school busses, jeez I could go on. I'm not saying i agree with how it's all spent, but its certainly not theft. You can't expect to get everything from the government for nothing.
@officer fireman, What is your definition of theft? A quick google search said, “Theft is the taking of another person's property or services or scrap money without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.” Sounds pretty damn close to paying taxes.
The way they do it now, it IS theft. They don’t just spend your money on things you “disagree with”, they spend it on things that don’t benefit a single American. They give it to their friends, they waste it, they send it oversees. Besides, all the things you mentioned come from local taxes. What about the fed? The federal income tax used to be considered unconstitutional. I don’t “expect to get everything from government”. Government doesn’t NEED most the taxes they levy on us, it needs to shrink! It needs to provide far fewer “services”!
@Snarfel Burger, I won't argue that they don't use it to the best of their ability, but that's a different conversation. But they have to take taxes to use for what we all need. Are they supposed to give us an option to pay taxes?
@CocoasBro, there’s a reason why the revolution started with “no taxation without representation”. if the government doesn’t have the ability to provide me an itemized list of where my money is going, then they are no government at all, but a money hungry corporation of a government that has no obligation to appease the people.
@Snarfel Burger, it's kinda funny how people don't understand what the paying other counties thing does for us. You think we do it out of the kindness of our hearts? No, there's a return on that investment. mostly it's "don't be so poor you go and do something reckless".
@hollow1104, sometimes. But most the time the “return on investment” is not for America, it’s for the politician that snuck it into a spending bill. We don’t need to bribe countries to not be “reckless”. America is broke, shouldn’t be sending money oversees no matter the humanitarian reason
That’s fücking hilarious to think that the government would actually consider not taking an unfair amount of money from its citizens and actually use it for something good lol what’s this guy thinking that the world is fair or makes sense that would just be ridiculous
Taxation is theft. Plain and simple. They have men with guns to sort you out if you don't pay it. It's literally stealing. They start by asking a little nicely, then resort to asking not so nicely.
@thatoneguymaybe, so... how do you expect to get everything a working society requires without anyone paying for it?
Idk, I like having drivable roads
It’s not taxation it’s a percentage based membership fee
Honestly I would settle just for jot having my tips taxed. That's TIP money! Money they gave me for doing a good job! That's money I earned by busting my ass for that little extra. Yet you have to have your hands in that as well big brother..... its thing like that is why I express my 2nd amendment right to the fullest. Got way more than I need and I fookin love it.
tAxATiOn Is ThEfT
Lol your mistake was asking
“Stolen” like the government isnt the one who made it
@nuckin futs400003, lol. You think the government makes money?
They happen to print the paper that we use to represent capital, but the government does not “make money”
@big freedom, that's exactly what the fed does? unless we went back to the gold standard and no one told me. Also the dollar is American currency, its value is 100% tied to how well the country is doing, things like the deficit. Quick, delete that comment before people start laughing.