It’s what is needed
Make racism great again
@A Math Dealer, make skin thick enough so people don’t have a heart attack if they hear a certain order of letters
@Richard Cypher, or you know we could reflect inward, and see that by using that order of letters what we’re really saying about ourselves...
@A Blunt Object, you could take your own advice here. In good faith, it would be a benefit to all.
@Doctor Krieger, I do that’s why I don’t tear folks down to make myself feel better. You have my sympathies.
@A Blunt Object, guy, that's nonsense. The entire reason you just said what you did was as a slight. You came here to insult others and now you are speaking in bad faith.
@Doctor Krieger, It’s insulting to use reflection with language that included myself in the equation? That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, especially coming from someone who has thrown multiple personal slights my way on this post.
If that’s what makes you this upset, you have my sincerest apologies.
@A Blunt Object, that’s some weak ass beta male bûllshît. “We could all reflect inwards to understand that our words can cause hurt to others” said in super soft weak voice.
Shît like that is what causes snowflakes to go on a mass murder spree. Because they’re righteously justified in hurting others because someone said a micro-aggression.
@big freedom, you're really not much better than he is.
@big freedom, you talk about snowflakes. Trump can’t even take a joke. He goes all pissed off rage tweet anytime someone says something he doesn’t like. So you know if it’s good enough for the president to act that way... it’s good enough for everyone I suppose.
When I think of the word snowflake. The people that come to mind are people like Trump. People who get all bent out of shape over anyone that has a different viewpoint.
By the way. I’m not really that emotionally invested in this topic. I just enjoy pointing out hypocrisies. And this is the what comes to mind when I hear or read the word snowflake.
I also think that its used wrong. Because a snowflake melts easy under heat. So if anyone cant take the heat and fits that category right now. We can all guess who that is.
@A Blunt Object, words only contain the meaning people assign to them. What some use as a term of endearment, others might see as an insult. This being the case, I don't believe the problem can be solved simply by stopping the use of the word, because it only treats a symptom, and not the root cause.
@Seohn, yes.... RAGE tweet. He must be comparable to a mass shooter now that he's RAGE tweeting. That encourages people to act Violently.... if your a hypocritical snowflake maybe.
@Seohn, If he gets all rage tweet every time someone says something he doesnt like then he wouldnt be able to do anything other than tweet, how do people not see that the whole world is basically ganging up and bullying the guy? I really dont have an opinion on him but i dont see why he shouldnt stand up for himself at all when the whole world is against him.
@big freedom, looks like you’re upset, and I didn’t even say anything to you. Thanks for proving my point...
@Marida Cruz, words matter, and those that use language to tear a person or a group down is saying more about themselves than the folks they’re talking about. The root cause is the person who’s doing it, and their feelings of insecurity that cause them to lash out.
@Richard Cypher, I don’t like that thing you like
@Seohn, no. It’s not ok that he acts that way. I think he’s a giant baby who overreacts to everything.
See that’s the difference between me and you. I think that something is wrong no matter who is doing it.
@Seohn, snowflakes are delicate little things that melt easily. When someone gets upset by words another person uses, that’s a snowflake.
@Richard Cypher, Just because you're an unchangable asshole doesn't mean that people should accept it. You SEEM like the kind of person who get's all cry-baby when people don't think your edgy jokes are funny and choose to be with actually, genuinely nice people. Times are changing and society is moving on from tearing other people down for the sake of "humor".
@big freedom, You're a disgrace to this community.
@Awesome Naked Taco, wow. Now there’s an intelligent response. Thank you for your contribution.
In light of your brilliant insight, I’ve taken a deep look inside and have decided to change my ways. From now on I’ll only vote down the party line. I’ll give up all sense of what is right and blindly follow what the media and government tell me what is right and wrong.
Ahhhh, I feel so unburdened now. Thinking for myself was hard. This is way easier.
@Marida Cruz, I went way over the top in a parody mirroring his tone. Both examples are ridiculous.
@A Blunt Object, People would be outraged if someone said the N-word while quoting another... words don't mean anything, context means everything. When the default rebuttal of many individuals is calling people racists, THAT is when the insecurity and incompetence of these weak-minded people become palpable.
@Awesome Naked Taco, you’re a funny guy. I don’t want to hurt your feelings in your safe space so I’m not gonna start some pointless argument with you.
@Im Innocent, eh if you need to use that kind of rhetoric that’s sad for you. It means you can’t argue based on merit of thought, and have to devolve your argument to debase on individual characteristics. My advice is to look to the merit of your argument...
@eleven, how dare you not like the thing that I like. You’re a [insert buzz word]
@A Math Dealer, I love how this thread was just about people needing to stop being offended by everything, and then @Seohn had to make it political. B
@A Blunt Object, Your post isn't aimed at me right? It's aimed at the people I'm talking about right? I just want to make sure it isn't the contrary before I lose my mind.
@Im Innocent, if your post was meant as a third person look then you are correct, in that it would be aimed at the folks you are talking about.
@Available Username, Sometimes the media does gang up on him. But most of the time it’s due to his own actions. For example some of things he says in his tweets. And it’s not bullying someone to call a liar what they are. He’s a compulsive petty liar. And a most of the time it’s easy to catch his lie. Because all you’ve got to do is look up the data.
I call him a petty liar. Because he lies about petty stuff. Things that really don’t require or need to be lied about. He could just say nothing on the subject. But no, he has to say some kind of lie to defend why something he supported didn’t pass or this or that
The man is a bully himself. All you’ve got to do is listen to audio clips or watch videos of him before he was a president. Even the way he treats our Allies internationally. How he maintains that my way or the highway mentality. It all points to him getting the same treatment that he gives.
He pissed off Canada for goodness sake. That says a lot.
@Seohn, Yeah i didnt mean the stuff that he deserved to be called out for but the amount of "News" that laugh at his hair and tan or even laugh at his family is way out of line.
@Available Username, well to be fair. Trump has made jokes about people‘s appearance or poke fun at them on Twitter. So he isn’t above doing that to other people as well.
If he was then I would defend him when it comes to that subject.
I’m a pretty firm believer in, treating others the way you want to be treated. But As I’ve grown older. I’ve come to understand there’s a point where you need to begin applying, treat someone the way they treat you and others. It’s usually after you’ve tried everything you can to be nice to them and they still treat you like dirt.
One of my favorite phrases is. If one person treats you poorly. It’s probably them. If everyone treats you poorly. It’s probably you.
@Available Username, However being the president means being in the limelight all the time. All presidents get jokes made about them. So he’s not being singled out. You have to have a thick skin and be able to take a joke if you want to do that position.
Since people in that position can literally impact everyone’s lives in the country.
@Seohn, we ger ir seohn youre a virtuous person you hate the rigjr person. Blah blah blah. Now go back knto youre echo chamber with all the other basic b!tches.
@Seohn, yeah lol sometimes. Its not like its a 90% bad media coverage around the clock or anything. Just sometimes. And ussually over retarded fan fictions. Remember how they said he paid a prostitute to pee in a bed he thought obama was going to use. 10/10 unbiased media coverage. Lol
@BlazingBowman, remember how Trump claimed the russian meeting was about children... turns out it wasn’t.
You see the difference between mean you is I don’t stick to party. I judge a person by the content of their character and actions not the claims they make.
I gave Trump his chance. He had the benefit of the doubt. But he continued to lie. It’s not in echo chamber. I’m pointing out facts when I say he’s a compulsive petty liar and an asshole. His mannerisms and the way he talks about others. Thats what I use to judge his characters. No need for an echo chamber. I love got to do is read his tweets and listen to what he says. It’s not the medias fault when its straight from his mouth.
So you’re saying that I should bend over to your will and your opinion and I should not have my own. Is that what you’re saying? That because my dislike of him for this reason is wrong and doesn’t fit your narrative so I’m wrong? And you say I’m the one in an echo chamber?
@BlazingBowman, Does he deserve all the criticism? No.
Has many of the things he’s done caused him to deserve a lot of the criticism? Yeah.
Some people voted for him because they wanted somebody that didn’t fit the status quo and to shake things up. So yeah that will draw more attention. Or do you not know the definition of conspicuous?
He doesn’t talk or act like a President. That draws attention. So to expect someone to shake thing up without drawing attention. And then drawing more attention when his method of shaking things up involves being an asshole to everyone that has a different opinion than him. So of course. He gets a lot of attention. Because his actions draw that attention.
@Seohn, how has trump been an asshole to people that have a different opinion than him again? Because from litterally every discussion it's been the other side being an unreasonable asshole.
@BlazingBowman, explain why he didn’t denounce David Duke? Why he waited so long to speak the words. And then when questioned about it his response was, “I’ve said it many times. Do I have to say 12 times?”
now while I don’t necessarily think he’s racist. The fact that he did not say something that needed to be said. Regardless of the fact that he may have said it many times before. Means he intentionally chose not to speak those words when they were most important to be said. So he was doing it to rile people up. It was an intentional act. Which makes him an asshole.
Why have so many from his inner circle quit or been fired since he took office?
@Seohn, dude I have no idea what you're talking about. I dont spend all day on Twitter or looking up current events. I wont pretend to stand for everything trump has done. I voted for him because I wanted to hear the autistic crying from people like you. And man was it worth it.
@BlazingBowman, To be quite honest I’m not really that emotionally invested in the subject. I just like Messing with trolls. And now you’ve actually admitted to not keeping up with things he’s done.
And you think I’m wrong because your opinion says otherwise even though you aren’t familiar with what I’m talking about.
@BlazingBowman, I’m going to rephrase that. I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisys.
I’ve only continue this discussion because you accuse me of something that wasn’t true.
And now you admitted to having no idea what I’m talking about but and are still trying to defend it based purely on nothing other than being a troll. I see you are the definition of the uninformed and ignorant of facts you claim the other side is.
also I don’t spend all day reading Twitter either. I spend maybe One day every other week catching up on events. And when I do catch up on events I use more than one source to get my information.
But the best media source to see if the claims about what Trump has said is true is to literally look at his own words on Twitter or listen to what he’s actually said. That is enough to speak for itself. The media doesn’t make Trump say the things he says.
@BlazingBowman, As a side note. No where in this discussion have I said I didn’t support Trump. I have however said that I believe he’s a liar which is true. And I believe he’s an asshole. Your apparent rigid mentality and troll like ways appears to have never taught you that it is possible for a person to not like an individual because of their personality but still support their policy.
I will say I did like the way Trump handled Kim Jong Un. Because I believe it was about time somebody told off Kim Jong Un.
I don’t like the way he handles our Allies though.
Insert anti white mtv commercials here
I love how every time someone says “stop racism” there’s someone else that’s like “but...”
@supahotfiya, I know right? It's a good hat people let's just move along!
@RedTippedThrobRobin, It has obvious political motives though... it's not just a hat that says "racism is wrong!"
@supahotfiya, you called it!
Well he is trying to do that, it's the left insistently painting everything he says and does as racist that keeps bringing things back to this.
@Dephenistrator, always someone else’s fault. This is where inward reflection would help...
@A Blunt Object, by the end of this presidency the left bias media is gonna leave the word racist as a meaningless and carelessly overused word. I don't think there is a Republican alive the left can refrain themselves from calling racist. I'm not even Republican but it's just so blatantly disgusting. Why can't they reflect on themselves and start actually debating politics and trading ideas instead of the strictly closed minded practice of calling their opponents and ism? Why are they so afraid to just talk to people they disagree with and have to call it cat calling instead of debate? This is broken.
@Dephenistrator, I think you’re exaggerating because there are a number of republicans that I’ve never heard called racist, John McCain, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, etc.
Trump’s problem is his own doing, and it started when he wouldn’t disavow David Duke’s support. Multiple missteps later and the narrative’s been built. If he came out strong initially this story never would have started.
@A Blunt Object, he disavowed David Duke's support before the media even made a scene about it. People just ignored that because they wanted to believe that Trump was basically Hitler.
This "do you disavow" game attempting to establish guilt by association is intellectually dishonest and ethically bankrupt, even more so if you simply keep pushing it even after someone attempts to satisfy your demands of disavowal.
You're sat here lying, defending propagandists. Why on Earth would anyone here assume good faith from someone so dead set on arguing in bad faith? Why should we trust anything you say?
@A Blunt Object, trump is called or insinuated to be racist and sexist every single day in msm. It doesn't matter what he does, they want him to appear that way so their now angry veiwers dontre think past that. At nearly every major speech he emphasizes people of every color and religion uniting together. What kind of racist does that while breaking job records for minorities at the same? The idea that he's racist is politically forced, enjoyed and fanned by his opponents to spread the idea and attack his character until no one can hear what he's saying anymore.
@Doctor Krieger, I don’t really care if you believe me or not, the video tape shows it clear as day, or is that doctored as well?
The point that you seem to be missing here is that if he came out and simply said I don’t want the support of that group this would be a non-story. Instead he waited a few days to do it.
Not sure what I lied about, but if bad faith arguing means I don’t agree with your position then I guess you’re right. That’s why it’s called debate.
@Dephenistrator, I’m not saying there’s not a narrative. You and I can disagree about how forced it is. What I’m saying is that he has a hand in creating that narrative, and he seems prone to stepping in it with his words and actions.
@Dephenistrator, he doesn't help his case when he says they'res "good people" on a side of people that actually call them selves nazis and cheer on a man running a woman over
@A Blunt Object, the media can set whatever land mines it wants to call someone a bigot, i am so thankful we have a president that doesn't give a damņ about that anymore and just lets them destroy themselves calling him everything aweful they can think of instead of boxing him into what they want him to say. He promotes unity and equality of everybody, if the media is upset they can't use that to stir riots like in the Obama era for high ratings then that's their problem.
@Dephenistrator, I think he sets his own land mines well enough...
"David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK," Trump added. "Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now."
the other side was racist the Only Black Lives Matter, and the terrorists organization antifa. That was a wretched mess the media was gleefully to use the kkk to attach it trumps name as fast as possible. Thats why they stepped on a rake giving large airtime to the rally this year with 35!!!! Kkk, and thousands of blm and antifa.
@A Blunt Object, i won't argue that unless you your talking race, because he has done the opposite work in that department.
@A Blunt Object, LOLOLOL. The media hated McCain when he was running against Obama. Claimed that he was a bigot and racist.
@Bofosho, way to cherry pick what he said to fit your narrative. There were bad people on both sides. Antifa is BAD. They’re extremely dangerous. Way more violent than the dip-shît white supremacists.
@Dephenistrator, Unity and equality for everyone that supports him. That’s what he promotes.
And although Trump did disavow David Duke. He did wait too long to do it. His excuse for waiting so long to say it was, “do you want me to do it at 12 time because I’ve set it in the past.” However I’ve said things myself, many times, but I understand the importance of saying something that important when it’s most necessary to say it.
Which is something he did not do. And there for his own actions encouraged that label.
I think he intentionally did not say it right off the bat because he knew it would cause a stir if he didn’t say it. That he wanted to cause a stir. Because he thought it would be funny.
However there is a time and place for jokes. And that really wasn’t the time. So whether or not he’s a racist, his actions to choose not to denounce a known racist, when it most important to speak the words. Doesnt paint a favorable picture.
@Dephenistrator, But theres no doubt he’s an asshole fishing to rile people up for attention.
Besides. Trumps no stranger to being told the same thing 10 times. After all. It took being said 10 times before he got it through his head that he couldn’t make a car deal with Germany. That he had to go through the EU.
@Seohn, so when nothing but horrible people are rioting, and trump doesn't respond to the media's calls that he's one of them, he has to denounce them again at the whim of left wing media accusations? The problem isn't that he is racist or kkk, or even that he didn't denounce them. The only thing even close even to try to label him as bad os that he didn't bend over to the media's witch hunting accusations. They just want him to be racist so he's easy to attack when he's not so they force the narrative down our throats any and every possible chance. Maybe you should look into Obama's reactions to police incidents that promoted riots to look for a president stirring racism.
And good for him trying to talk to Germany separate of the failing EU. He has made the EU give concessions and just recently this week made new trade deals with Mexico. Not that trade had to do with this discussion, but it's as hollow as your first argument.
@Dephenistrator, “Promote unity and equality” are you serious?
@Fearless Fapper, like a heart attack. Listen to his some of speeches uncut. Learn about him.
@Dephenistrator, You mean like all the time he shjt on people who criticize him? Treating anyone that isn’t with him as his enemies? Stop fundings any organization that criticized him? When he says that if he’s demoted the country will go in flame because of the democrat? You think that all of this “promote unity and equality”?
@big freedom, I distinctly remember McCain being lauded by the media for standing up to one of his supporters, who was incorrectly calling Obama a Muslim during the 2008 campaign. Not sure what examples you have for your argument...
@Fearless Fapper, people who disagree with obama stick to their guns and religion isn't shítting on people? The government under trump still funds many organizations that criticize him because nearly every Democrat alive wants his head since he's not Hillary. It's a great thing he calls out the bs on Twitter because it would never get aired on the democratically married msm. This thread is about how isn't a racist and is being incessantly painted as one by as many political opponents of his as possible. I would criticize the shít out of anyone who did that to me. Trump promotes unity and equality between all ethnicities, religions, skin colors. Doesn't matter how much he does to prove that, we have career politicians and vein popping extremists labeling him anything they can to tear down his character with -isms until no one listens to him (common democrat strategy) dems don't want to debate this man at all. They want to label him racist and horrible and keep real debate off the table
@Dephenistrator, I don’t think he’s racist or sexist and I don’t care if he had sex with 19 pornstar, I truly don’t think he’s promoting unity for everyone, he’s promoting unity for his squad, and when the left or anyone disagree with him, he point at them and say “see, I told you, these guys are our ennemies”.
@Dephenistrator, Trump has to respond to the media in a timely manner because were that Obama that waited. The right wing would be calling him the same thing you just said. And the fact that you don’t see the hypocrisy of that. Means you might want to take a step back. Think about this for a moment. Because all the things that Trump is doing or is being blamed for. If it had been Obama that was under the Russian collusion investigation. How do you think that would be taken by the right?
Trump might not be a career politician. But he his also no promoter of unity. Otherwise he wouldn’t have been so petty to deny individuals their security clearance because they criticized him.
He wasn’t instantly labeled a racist. He was givin a chance to show he wasn’t. But his actions created that uncertainty.
@Dephenistrator, He is no doubt a sexist. There is plenty of audio proof of that. His own actions, not the media, created that label.
If Trump is about unity. Why does he try to tear down anyone that doesn’t agree with something he says or does?
The man cant even lose gracefully. He has to make up lies about “people being in the hospital” as reasons he didn’t get enough votes to win on legislation going through.
@Dephenistrator, Many of his own supporters in the media are trying hard to redefine the word “Truth”. They use things like. He had his own Truth about the subject. I’ve literally heard a Fox spokesperson talk about how Trump had information wrong about Amazon. And then follow it up by saying. So Trumps had his own facts on the subject. The spokes person didn’t have to say Trump was lying or was wrong. But the fact that he had to say another sentence and claim that Trump had his own facts on the subject. In order to not paint Trump as wrong. Means that there’s an underlying agenda there by his supporters to create their own real fake facts to push their world view.
That’s not what a fact is. That’s not what truth is. He is trying real hard to redefine the words fact and truth.
@Dephenistrator, Someone who’s trying to promote unity does not need to go to such lengths to redefine what fact and truth mean.
A person that supports unity and upholding truth lets it stand for itself. They also have the ability admit when they made a mistake because they had the wrong information. They don’t go trying to redefine the word by claiming multiple people have their own truth.
That might work with religion for which there are many viewpoints. But that’s not how scientific data works. There’s only one truth. Which means one person is wrong if two people have two different pieces of information.
The next time you want to make a claim about msm creating labels. Remember Trumps media is trying to redefine truth and fact. So some of those labels may be deserved under the actually definition of truth.
Petty liar is definitely one label Trump deserves.
@Dephenistrator, It’s pushing it to call Trump racist, but it isn’t to call him sexist. He’s said a bunch of objectifying things about women, including commenting on his own daughters body. He’s fvckin weird.
And it’s pretty incorrect to say that Trump is responsible for minority unemployment. Minority unemployment rate has been on a steady decline since 2011, in fact along with overall unemployment. Trump has done nothint to increase or decrease the rate. He doesn’t have any involvement in it. The only thing he does have to do with it is the fact it continued to decline, but he didn’t make that happen. It was already happening.
@Seohn, wow, there are so many things wrong there i don't even have the time to write the novel you need to read to correct it. So I'll stick to your most pertinent argument.
Cable news is entirely democratic worshipping except for the one single island of fox news. Obama berated fox his entire presidency and was showered with praise and helpful censorship of mistakes by the same news networks working around the clock to paste the lie of trump being a racist. THAT'S hypocrisy, you missed that by a long mile. I'm not Republican, and i don't support fox news any further than being the last second opinion on tv, so your implying that I'm hypocritical here. When the media is digging and hoping for something to be wrong with a president at this unprecedented scale, he is not required to be their bitch, and he doesn't let them. That's a great thing in this toxic environment. The msm is all but officially a branch of the democratic party working as a tabloid to besmirch his name at every -
@Seohn, - turn. listen to his uncut speeches and you will see him PROMOTING UNITY AMONG EVERY RACE AND SAYING WE ARE ALL AMERICANS! This whole thread is about cries of racism, remember? I'm not talking about his petty fights with individual politicians
Who's saying that racism isn't wrong?... You know, besides lefty-loos who think that racism against white people is morally righteous?
@Doctor Krieger, the left's reaction to south Africa's atrocities is so blatantly wrong it hurts to read their titles this week
@Dephenistrator, but remember, we have to punch those evil Drumpf-supporting redhat Nazis, because they might just engage in race-based oppression and even genocide by having opinions! /s
These people have no principles.
@Doctor Krieger, as long as they promote the democratic party they swore their loyalty to, no. Nothing is off limits to them.
@Doctor Krieger, lol making stuff up again? Sure their are people who are racist against whites. They're probably as uncommon as people that are racist against other ethnicities. The majority of first world people are not racist but there are still enough racist people that the issue has to be dealt with.
The far left is at this point basically rascist against white people. When you have people like Sarah Jeong making tweets that if directed at a different race would have been absolutely racist, who then gets hired and defended by the New York times, you know something is wrong. Not to mention, the entire basis of intersectional feminism and the resulting identify politics that follow it are based on the premise that evil white straight men are the cause of all the world's problems and the oppressors. And yes, the far left is a minority, but they are much larger than people estimate them to be, and they are in positions where they have influence over large numbers of people, such as the media and universities. Id argue that the far left has far more power than the far right in America, both of which are immoral and antithetical to the freedom and flourishing of the public.
Guys, racism is nothing to monkey around with
@mattswife, Ey, I saw that news report, too.
@SimonPetrikov, I honestly don't know if he meant it like that. But, dude, come on. You know everything you say is going to be analyzed and dissected and whatnot, use your brain before you speak
@mattswife, Who was that?
@Jdrawer, Republican candidate for Florida governor. Democrat candidate was a come from behind win, surprised everyone. And black.
Black Lives Matter is not a terrorist organization. They're are definitely bad apples in the group, just like the bad apples they are wanting delt with in police forces.
Antifa at this point should be classified as a terrorist organization, but at least they're goal is to fight Nazi's and White Supremacists. They need to work on how they go about it, but Nazi's deserves the Death Penalty, every one. And white Supremacists need to realize we fought a war over this and they lost and need to give it up.
@Bofosho, i said antifa is a terrorist organization, blm is a racist organization
@Dephenistrator, Dont see how people can downvote this since they exclude other races from certain activities, sounds a lot like racism to me when you prioritise a certain race.
@Bofosho, their goal is to call anyone who disagrees even slightly with their extremist views, a Nazi. Then they feel justified beating down old men in a wheelchair for attending a political rally, or speech given by centrist speakers.
Free speech means protecting speech that you hate. Nobody needs to protect stuff the majority agree with. But we must strongly defend stuff we disagree with. Just in case someone like Donald Trump, the TV guy, ever became president (ridiculous I know). You wouldn’t want someone like that being able to stop you from saying stuff he disagree with, right?
@big freedom, Free speech is about protecting your speech from the government, not from others disagreeing with you or having an ethical discussion with you when your speech is untenable.
@Jdrawer, that’s the legal definition of free speech. Why did the the founders make absolutely sure that speech has to be so fiercely protected?
I’ll give you a hint. It’s not because they thought that people would always say nice things. They knew that to be truly free, people have to be allowed to speak. Even “hate speech” is absolutely important to protect.
The free exchange of ideas is paramount to an educated society. Start stopping speech that you disagree with... sooner or later someone gets to stop you from speaking because they disagree with you.
As an educated person that despised violence, I’m all for letting “Nazis” speak. Allow them to spew their hatred so we know who they are. Shine the light of day on ignorance and intolerance. Then have a reasonable, rational discussion about why they are wrong. Stopping them through violence or silencing them does not allow a reasonable, rational response. It only escalated.
@Bofosho, you're unhinged if you think that someone deserves the death penalty just for the ideas that they hold and believe.
@Dephenistrator, BLM is in the streets chanting to kill cops and abolish capitalism. They're responsible for a series of police murders. They're absolutely terrorists in the same vein as the 20th century KKK.
@Jdrawer, so what happens when someone reacts to an idea with violence and the government refuses to act? Better yet, what happens when someone kills another in response to their ideas, like Bofosho wants?
Free speech is, as a concept, about protecting people who express ideas from the use of force. If a government fails to protect its citizens from violence as a response to their speech, that government is failing to uphold free speech.
@Doctor Krieger, I didnt say i think someone deserves the death penalty for their ideas. I said Nazi's deserve the death penalty. We fought a war over this. We don't give ground to Nazis. Or else the millions of lives we lost in WWII become pointless. Racists are awful, but They're entitled to their opinions. Nazi's are traitors to this country that don't deserve to breath, let alone a platform to spew their treason.
@Bofosho, so, is it that you think that Nazis aren't people or are you asserting that Nazism isn't an ideology, but a tangible characteristic? Because what you just said makes no sense otherwise.
You seem to be absolutely, totally unhinged.
@Doctor Krieger, we fought a war over the fact that Nazi's are garbage and deserve to die for it. If someone wants to identify as a Nazi, they are declaring they are an enemy of the United States.
@Doctor Krieger, The government applies the same sanctions they would for any other murder, naturally.
@Bofosho, no, we fought a war over military imperialism and genocide. You just want to kill people you disagree with, you fücking lunatic. You are just as bad as any Nazi, perhaps even worse.
If being against mass killing on the basis of ideology is really that radical to you, then shìt, call me an anti-genocide extremist. Fücking tankie shìtheel.
@Doctor Krieger, i bet you also think we fought the civil war over states rights, not slavery, dont ya?
Yes we fought the war over imperialism and genocide...but it was the Nazi's doing the genocide! Nazi's are an enemy of America. Nazis want the non arian race dead. Its perfectly reasonable for me to want them dead. Nazi's are scum. We can never treat Nazism as something that is "okay". Claiming to be a Nazi, means your are claiming to be an enemy of America. Plain and simple.
@Bofosho, it's entirely unreasonable to want to commit genocide because in the past members of a group committed genocide. That's the opposite of reasonable.
Also, as an aside, not every Nazi subscribes to ethnic cleansing... But you certainly subscribe to ideological cleansing. You seem to believe that genocide is okay as long as the right people are murdered.
Finally, you are an enemy to reason and to humanity. You, who wants unironic political genocide. You, who is so intolerant and incapable of debate that murder is the only solution. One might call it your "final solution".
You are a detestable murdernut and anyone here who is about to side with you on your pro-genocide insanity shall forfeit any and all respect or consideration from me moving forward.
@Doctor Krieger, if a Nazi doesn't subscribe to ethnic cleansing, they shouldn't call themselves a Nazi. Because that was kind of a key feature of the Nazis. And no, killing nazis is not my final solution. Its America's. We agreed Nazis were scum. We killed them. Nazis are still scum.
Im perfectly capable of debate. But i also recognize facts. Like the facts that Nazis are despicable human beings okay with mass genocide and see nothing wrong with it. The killing of other human beings is never something to be happy about. Which is why we have to make an unmovable front against Scum like Nazis. Because they are a danger to humanity. If you wanna be fascist, call yourself a fascist. If you wanna be racist, call yourself a racist. But if you are gonna call yourself a NAZI, if you are a self describing NAZI, you are fully aware of what it is you are supporting, and what you are supporting can NOT be accepted in America.
@Bofosho, hey, you're a despicable human being okay with genocide and yet here I am, not advocating for your death.
What YOU are supporting is what you claim to oppose Nazis for. YOU are the genocidal nut here. What YOU are supporting is a danger to humanity.
It's like you have zero self-awareness...
@Bofosho, you have a poor grasp of history. Germany and Nazi ideology was around before we got involved in ww2.
Also, the problem with this is, is that people call everyone they disagree with “Nazi” now. Did you ever read Orwell? “Fascist” is the term we use for people we disagree with”. Well now it’s either fascist or Nazi.
So, no. We do not get to kill people that we think are “Nazis”
It's ironic that racists are telling others to be racist.
@Elmato, That's kinda how racism works: Telling others to be racist, directly or not, ja?
Oh boy...one hat and the comments section is all over it. No one cares but my take is this country has roughly 4-6 major groups currently all fighting each other for who is right about the way things should be and all for different reasons whatever they may be. Either way the core issue is the fact that there's this degree of separation in a country designed to be a melting pot. Black people are racist towards white and other, white people are racist towards blacks and other, politicians don't care about hiding their corruption and instead play games to see if they can get away with it, everyone is offended by everything, nobody has the balls to accept responsibility for their actions, and everybody is always right all the time. That's the world and country we live in societally. One nation, under siege, by the divided society too blind to protect the future...
Yeah I miss the old days without racism like precivil rights.
@mcgriddle, racism is as old as humanity
So, let me see if I got this right.
A picture of a man wearing a cap with a statement against being racist causes the comments section to explode with debate. Is that what happened? Because if we need to debate over whether or not racism is wrong, the world is more fvcked up than I thought.
@EndToOutside, no one's debating wether it's wrong or not, everyone knows it is. It's a dig trump trying to use his catchphrase against him. That's what triggered this