And do beach things
I've said it before. People have the right to be stupid. I disagree with many peoples actions but I will defend their right to do it.
@JCtheWise, people have the right to be stupid, but only when it’s not harming innocent people. You want to drive around an empty field while blindfolded? Stupid, but sure. You want to drive around a music festival blindfolded? Still stupid, but no.
@Cpzombie, there has never been a disease, even with things like the Spanish flu which had a way higher death rate, that made the government enforce such rules.
@JCtheWise, yes people have the right to be stupid but they also have the right to win stupid prizes for doing stupid things
@JCtheWise, true but that was over 100 years ago when governments truly had no understanding of viruses we've come a long way since then. Plus there was the whole world war thing and people were very unhealthy anyway then. Smoking was considered healthy. Just saying maybe dont base the current reaction on something from so long ago.
@jdeaux, I agree. I know a 75 year old who says it's all bs. If he dies I will be sad but also acknowledge he did it to himself. That's his right
@Runnin with scissors, those are good points and it's true that there are always times for change. However humans are inherently stupid and the government babying people has always led to governments devolving into fascism.
Do I think the current measures are fascist? No. Do I think every fascist dictatorship has started with one step in this direction? Yes.
A recent example would be Venezuela's sprint toward fascism. It starts with helping people and ends with the military firing on civilians.
@JCtheWise, do you know what public health officials said about the Spanish flu? “Nonessential meetings were to be prohibited. They [doctors] determined that saloons, dance halls, and cinemas should be closed and public funerals should be prohibited since they were unnecessary assemblies. Churches were allowed to remain open, but the committee believed that only the minimum services should be conducted and the intimacy reduced.” (Source: https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/fluresponse.html) Maybe if the government HAD enforced such rules, the 1918 influenza wouldn’t have been the deadliest pandemic in modern history. For an example of how reopening too soon can go wrong, look up the Philadelphia Liberty Loans parade.
@Cpzombie, I'm always glad to see other people on the site taking up the anti-abortion stance.
@Kyroll, a good to be made by far, in your source. Nationalism was really high at that time, and the war effort was in the mind of the people.
We just went on of 4 years Trump is worse then mega mecha hitler, 8%of the country want to burn it all down, and the medias hypocritical.
All they complain about is the loss of trust in the media and goverment. Each of them complaining about it's Trumps falt. We're to polarized as a nation.
@Cpzombie, everyone who went to those beaches knew the risks.
@JCtheWise, when all this first started I thought the same thing but then as time has gone on I don't think that way anymore as they are effecting everyone they come in contact with.
My mom and I where cautious and we are pretty sure my mom ended up with coronavirous and I would also be a carrier without even knowing it had my mom not showed signs. If I'm a carrier I don't look like it but I could cause problems for a lot of other people which is not cool
@CocoasBro, true, and if they were the only ones that would die from it, I’d think it’s perfectly fine. The problem is that they potentially kill or hospitalize many innocent people that they happen to come in contact with, such as at a grocery store or workplace
@Cpzombie, its risk immunocompromised people and smokers etc take that risk everytime they come into contact with anyone. You take that risk when you go to work, or grocery store. You cant live your life in a bubble.
@JCtheWise, no when their stupidity causes harm that’s when they lose the right to be stupid and must be corrected
@Kyroll, yes and papers went out informing people of these things. But many papers were written, even by doctors,saying that governments forcing people to follow these rules would be giving up rights that we might never get back. They informed people and let them decide how they want to handle their life.
If I go to beach. The only people at the beach are other stupid people who are fine with getting it.
@G1ngerB0y, yea if you are a smart and good person you wear a mask and social distance.
@Cpzombie, innocent people should be staying home and quarantining
@JCtheWise, so trump should get into a room with 100 people that are all positive with covid-19. Sounds good to me.
Damn it now it’s stuck in my head!
@jdeaux, snap, aww snap! Come to our macaroni party and take a nap!
Well when the “experts” are political hacks with political agendas then we shouldn’t listen to them. #nomasknodistance