But do problems actually exist or are they merely fabricated in the human psyche? We say we care about the environment and that humans are ruining it, but we as a species are not supernatural. We are birthed from nature and as such are a natural product of the universe. Therefore all that humanity has done is natural. We have not destroyed nature for we are nature. We merely define nature as everything except us, because our hubris sees us Superior to nature. But we are not. We are nature and all we do is natural.
@AlyciaFear, so... my cocaine problem is merely the human condition/nature! Acting in bad faith; here I go!
@AlyciaFear, it’s even considered (by humans) a natural stage of the advancement process which will eventually lead to our enlightenment as a race. Or our untimely destruction because apparently the next stage is the one we have an 80% chance to blow our selves up at.
@AlyciaFear, well, all that being said, Earth is being destroyed by the nature of humans. Human nature is not of the same as the rest of the species living on earth. We're the only species that if we die all else gets better, yet we can be a species that can better our planet just like the rest of the other species, but we decide not to. Additionally, when a living organism is trying to heal itself but is getting destroyed faster than it can heal, that means that organism has a virus. Earth has a virus. Humans are the virus. The virus needs to get rid off in order for Earth to feel better. Once Earth's natural defense kicks in, lots of the virus is going to get depleted.
@freakazoid, what defines destroyed vs repaired? Who defines that the Earth is in a 'fixed' state. Would we define Mars or the Sun as destroyed simply because it does not match pre-human Earth's atomic configuration? Something can only be destroyed if it doesn't meet a configuration that we deem it should be in. You could 'break' a water molecule but it does not mean that nature was destroyed. It is still Hydrogen and Oxygen. Only when we ask what a proper state is can we say something is destroyed, and who else defines the proper state of anything besides humans? All living things are comprised of various configurations of atoms, but who defines a 'proper' configuration to heal to? We say the Earth is getting 'destroyed' faster than it can 'heal' but heal to what? To the Earth before man? Who defines a 'healthy' Earth besides man? Could we not consider Mars a healthy planet. If that were the standard then even without Man Earth would still be sick with plants and animals.
@freakazoid, I will go ahead and throw this disclaimer that I am all for humans going green and protecting the planet. I am just playing devil's advocate and portraying an overly facetious and nihilistic perspective. I like our current configuration of Earth and don't want to see it reach a state unsuitable for life xD
@AlyciaFear, destroyed defined as things being harmful and other species getting ill and killed. Death and living. As health in general, the virus is depleting a healthy "living" condition for the rest of organism. That is what "destroyed" is being defined as, in this context. Repair of course is being the opposite of that. Additionally, the nature of things are out of balance due to the overwhelming destruction. Balance is all destruction, repair, living, death, health, illness, all playing moderately in their role in order to have a sustainable out of chaos environment. Example; sharks, they are predators, yet they don't overly kill. They just hunt to eat, and make sure to police the food chain in the ecosystem, so no one gets out of hand.
@AlyciaFear, i understand. Your disclaimer. ,=]
@freakazoid, earth isn’t even being destroyed, it’s just becoming less habitable for humans because of humans. The earth is resilient and has survived far worse than humanity. To date I think there’s been 7 major extinctions, each of which was thousands of times more cataclysmic than what we’re doing to the planet now. I.e. it’s bad for us, not as much the planet but a little
@AlyciaFear, and this is a quick resume of any pedophile/criminal/murderer etc justifying his deeds
@Prince super Vegeta , there are 5 major extinctions actually. We’re likely in the middle or early part of the 6th called the Holocene extinction which is entirely man made. The smallest of those 5 killed 75% of all species, even if we kill only 50-60% it will still be a huge tragedy
@BearDaniels, ‘if there ever comes a time that we fail to mourn the loss of a single individual, humanity will be in dire straights indeed’ -Picard
@freakazoid, you know that humans aren’t the only invasive and destructive species, right? We’re only the best at it.
Feral hogs destroy the environment by digging up all the plants, causing mass die offs and environmental decay.
Feral cats are responsible for mass extinctions of small birds, rodents, and other woodland critters.
There are countless insect species that cause environmental collapse, including the locust, Africanized wasps (aka killer bees), among others.
Humanity isn’t the only virus on this planet.
@I Are Lebo, this is true. But like you said, we're the worst ones amongst them. Just like the rest, we need to be neutralized, now I'm not saying to deplete every single one, just enough to calm sh!t down and to make humans care more for their planet.
@freakazoid, eh I'd disagree. I think humanity just needs to get their $#!t together. Say for example we eradicate humanity and then dogs become the next intelligent species (according to probability it is very likely another species will rise). Odds are they'll make the same mistakes. They'll find fossil fuels to be a good source of energy but they won't have the knowledge or foresight to realize the long term impact. Yeah humanity has made mistakes, but I think any developing intelligent species is going to make mistakes and cause massive destruction. Now I'm not justifying our actions, and we need to be learning from our mistake and correcting them. Yes our species has so much potential for destruction, but we also have so much potential in the other direction. Think of how much good we can do. If a dog breaks or loses a leg in the wild it's as good as dead. But humans say fvck that. We'll tend the wound, heal the leg or even give them a prosthetic.
@AlyciaFear, you're a problem, you must be killed.
@freakazoid, we can bring species back from extinction, we could in the future transport creatures to other habitable planets guaranteeing them near immunity to extinction, we can perform life saving surgery and immunize against deadly diseases in both us and our fellow animals. We can turn ocean water into drinkable water for us and animals, we can cultivate plants on a mass scale we can effectively terraform entire regions to suit our needs. And again, I'm not saying any of the bad we've done is okay or justified. But it is a part of the learning process and we as a species should always seek to learn and correct our mistakes. And eradicating humanity won't necessarily help anything because the next species to take our place will likely make the same mistakes and repeat the cycle. What really needs to be done is humanity needs to man up (hehe), take responsibility for the incredible intelligence we have, and use it to make the universe a better place for us and our fellow life forms.
@AlyciaFear, this is what i hope for. But we need to take a stand as aggressive as these others are destroying our own planets.
Awww Mother Machine just looks so cute in the last panel i could end all of humanity for her!
@Insignificant user, Absolutely! Also, where is the [Flirt] option?
@SimonPetrikov, just stay DETERMINED and everything will be ok
Mother Machine looks like that one robot from Inifinity Train, and nobody is talking about it...
@Super GingerBoy, you’re talking about it...
@I Are Lebo, my name is Nobody, and I'm addicted to referring to myself in the third person
Hahahah what a hilarious and unique take on the human condition!
Sounds good to me
Whoever made this can start with themselves
And back to my original point, is there such a thing as "problems" or did we merely fabricated them? If the universe is simply a mass collection of energy and atoms (also energy) then what defines a 'natural' or 'good state' of nature and the universe? It began as a soup of energy and then it condensed into atoms, yet we do not consider atoms unnatural simply because they weren't around at the beginning. The universe progresses from raw energy to atoms to molecules to proteins to life and now to humans. But how could the universe know we are 'destroying' it? All we do is change the States of energy and matter. With or without us the universe carries on and another form of intelligent life will inevitably take our place and make the same mistakes as they learn. Do problems exist, or do we simply fabricate them to give us something to work towards that we may 'fix'
@AlyciaFear, It’s not my fault. My soup of atomic being coincided with another soup of a soup of cocaine particles! I am contributing to the entropy of the universe. Nothing means anything! Nothing I do has consequence!
@AlyciaFear, all of existence is a slow and steady march towards entropy.