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@MisterSir, you sir are a genius
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@MisterSir, and you can also stop complaining about them!
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@MisterSir, yay!
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@MisterSir, I second this notion.
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@MisterSir, too bad that solution is too complex for the average homophobe to understand.
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@Trevor331, that's MisterSir to you!
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@MisterSir, But MisterSir, GODJESUSBIBLECHRISTIANNATIONOBAMASANAZI!!!
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@MisterSir, but MisterSir, *insert hypocritical and nonsensical argument here*, so HA!
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@DinkIeberg, Yes but SCIENCEEVOLUTIONMATHEMATICSFORTHEGLORYOFSATAN
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@MisterSir, *slowly claps*
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@MisterSir, well said misterser
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@Your underwear, *violently claps*
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@MisterSir, (homophobe) "well if I can't marry one no one should be able to! Wait, that came out wrong, NO HOMO"
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@MisterSir, marry me
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@MisterSir, are you a wizard?
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I've always disliked this word because all it is is putty a heavily negative charge on a viewpoint they don't agree with. Nobody (or very few I'd assume) are physically frightened of GLBT people. If you're a racist, you're not a negrophobe.
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@LexiSketch, I agree. Homophobe is a painfully inaccurate term. As are biphobe, transphobe etc. those who discriminate against a/multiple race(s) are called racist, so those who discriminate against a/multiple sexuality/ies should be called sexualitist? Sexualist? I don't know. Same with gender identity. It should be gender-identitist or something. Anything except homophobe, transphobe, biphobe etc. I've never met anybody who has an actual phobia of anybody in the LGBTQPAetc. community.
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I never got why we can't just call it something other than marriage so the religious people are happy but give them the same rights as a marriage so the homosexuals are happy too? Or is compromise frowned upon?
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@J to the ROC, Thank you, I have been trying to say this for years!
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@J to the ROC, exactly, most gays just want the civil benefits that come from marriage, since marriage is a civil act. They don't want to do it to perverse or destroy anyone's religions, comforts, or beliefs.
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@J to the ROC, it's a great compromise, but the extreme parts of the argument won't budge on their agendas.
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@J to the ROC, Religions have Holy Matrimony. So wouldn't marriage already be different?
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@Gavin, the are no prose to being gay why dose every body treat it with respect?
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@J to the ROC, marriage is nothing religious. (in its basics.) It is something cultural. That's why it exist in nearly EVERY religion that is big enough to be recorgnized.
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@bradrobe, you disgust me *explodes violently*
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@Gavin, well actually, I'm every state they already can get what is called a Civil Union, with all the benefits of a normal marriage.
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@Nephinox, oh no no, civil union only gives about half the benefits of marriage. And none of the really important ones at that.
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@J to the ROC, not quite sure how to word this but it goes against human dignity to be kept separate from everyone else. I think in reality what gay people are fighting for is to be fully accepted by society and treated equally by it; so
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@J to the ROC, butt buddy's?
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@J to the ROC, I'm gay and I couldn't care less if it were called "civil union" or "marriage". I suppose the religious bunch do have dibs on the M word so I'm with you - they can have it.
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@J to the ROC, then instead of going to a church go to a court
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@HipsterMister, my friend has remained catholic even after realizing he was gay. I'm not religious, but if someone still believes and is accepted by their church then why not?
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@J to the ROC, I think it's simply because we're raised in a society that teaches marriage as being the highest sign of love there is, and then tells them that they can't. I don't mean to argue against you because I like what you said, but imagine if we had decided that minorities couldn't have a normal vote but instead something by a different name that still did the same thing. Does that sound right either?
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@Darkbear, I've been wondering why there's such a big thing about pushing for gay marriage when there's already such a thing as a civil partner ship, which is exactly the same. If I was gay i'd just be like f**k the church, I'll do my own ceremony. Idk if it's religious people skewing their religion to fit with their prejudice, or if the bible genuinely does object to gay marriage and it's the modernists skewing the religion to fit with their enlightenment. But I pretty much assumed it was the latter. In which case gay Christians are naive and they should be against Christianity altogether, rather than changing it to fit with their lifestyle. Because if that's the route they're taking, they might as well just make up a knew religion.
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@J to the ROC, What you don't understand is that the point isn't to compromise. The point is that it's about basic civil rights becoming available to all people. If you let gay people marry but make the distinction of calling it something else, you aren't treating them equally no matter what you may think. Downvote me if you want but I don't agree.
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@Eight Ball, there will never be equality. Even if they call it marriage , get all the same tax brakes and everything. They can't create a family the way a man and woman can, so for that fact , no matter how much we pretend, it will never be equal. God is so unfair towards gays I guess, or science or whatever name you have for the god you believe in.
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@J to the ROC, this doesn't really pertain to the Church since there's a deprecation of church and state so really the problem is with the state. Now in regards to why it can't be called the same thing is because it's a sacred rite in my religion(Catholicism) where one man is in union with one woman. There's no in between there. What I wanna know is why homosexual people say that it isn't a choice but other homosexuals say it is. Pretty much, they're going to dramatically change the idea of marriage and they know it. If two men are allowed to be "married" why is it strange for polygamists to do what they do? Honestly I think this whole thing comes from the 60s-80s free love s**t because being "gay" has only just recently within the past couple decades it's not natural. If it was natural, they'd be able to procreate and love, not just love their significant other. There are four different types of love and I think thy can love each other but it's not the same as marriage
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@Beard Man, so infertile couples aren't equal either?
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@Beard Man, in addition to what gebbeth said about infertility, do you not recognize adoption? They may not have genetic children from both, but they can still raise children like any other family.
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@J to the ROC, I completely agree, I think shmarried is perfect
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@lonely boner, you're so ignorant it hurts. Yeah, being gay just came out of nowhere 50 years ago. I'm guessing you know nothing about history, anthropology, or biology. There's been innumerable cases of homosexuality in the wild across thousands of species. As for humanity, there's been recorded homosexuals for thousands of years. Famous people like Oscar Wilde, Richard the Lionheart, and Leonardo DaVinci are believed to have been homosexual.
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@Marten Reed, I'm ignorant for stating facts about what my religion believes? And ignorant about which part? You didn't really explain anything. There's been no proof of homosexuality in any animal species an in Ancient Rome there was a type of pedophilia? That's not what it was idk what it's called but married guys would have sexual relations with a child but that wasn't even considered homosexuality because it was a type of love. So really check your facts before you call me ignorant. Tell me where there's ever been an instance of homosexuality in animals and I don't really give a sh*t if there are famous people believed to have been gay. Who cares if people think that someone's gay? People think Justin Bieber's gay(not that I disagree) but what does beig famous have to do with anythig?
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@lonely boner, so Ancient Rome is the only civilization in human history. Got it. Okay. And you show that you have an exceptional knowledge of Rome also, so I would totally trust you as a reliable source on it. /sarcasm. Anyway, look up bonobos or bottlenose dolphins for examples on animal homosexuality. And based on what you just said, homosexuality isn't homosexual "because it was a type of love"? And they weren't just famous people, they were people from history who changed the world (I guess it was a little stupid of me to expect you to know who they were). And people don't just "think" they were homosexual, there also quite a bit of evidence of it (if you have ever read any Oscar Wilde - which I doubt you have - his homosexuality should be pretty obvious).
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@lonely boner, you show ignorance in saying homosexuality came from the 60s through 80s, which is just blatantly false (refer to my examples through history).
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@J to the ROC, But for it to be truly equal the option to either do it as a non-religious option (civil union with all the same rights) and marriage should be open to both genders, so non religious couples don't have to use a religiously-connotated ceremony but gay couples can do it if they are. I don't think it will be truly equal until that happens.
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@lonely boner, and why are you telling me to check my facts? What facts are to referring to? At least give me that so I could, you know, better research them.
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@J to the ROC, Okay. Here's my opinion. I have been raised in an environment where being gay is against the Bible. I don't hate gay people, most of the people at my church don't. We just don't approve of their lifestyle. We have no problems with the people themselves. We don't think it's okay to be gay, we think it's wrong, because it says it plain and clear in the Bible that "A man shall not lie with a man and a woman shall not lie with a woman." And, tell me this, if being gay isn't a choice, what is it, then? Heredity?
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@Marten Reed, that's not even a homosexual species so your argument has now crumbled. You're trying to call me ignorant to make your point and yet you can't even see that your argument doesn't work..
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@lonely boner, umm... I never said that entire species are homosexual. I stated there are several cases of homosexuality in the wild. Those two species are standouts because there are recordings of homosexuality in those species, in rates similar to humans (except bonobos, in which the entire species is believed to be bisexual because I the rate of homosexual acts). I mean, just go on the bonobo Wikipedia page or the "homosexual behavior in animals" Wikipedia page. Jeez, do I have to baby you through all of this or are you just willfully this stupid?
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@lonely boner, also, you're ignoring entire parts of my argument, so I don't think it's mine that has "crumbled".
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@Marten Reed, clearly I didn't go to the same, most reliable source as you /s. And you did say look up bonobos or bottle nose dolphins for examples on animal homosexuality so that's where the confusion lies-it has nothing to do with ignorance but nice try. Now if you'd like to have an intelligent conversation, if you can without acting like you're the all knowing, then I'll stay to help correct your misguidedness otherwise I'm going to bed because I have work at 7:30 and I don't have time for bull.
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@Marten Reed, your argument has no base or structure. Your throwing useless facts or opinions around as if they matter..
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@Marten Reed, half of your stance doesn't even have facts to prove it
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@lonely boner, I don't know of any sources that are used more than Wikipedia for this type of debate, so please enlighten me. And right now you're just refuting my source without adding any arguments for your case. You haven't had ANY facts or ANYTHING for your argument. You just keep saying "nope, you're wrong" without backing yourself up. My argument is disjointed because this is the comments section of a second rate humor site. You have nothing going for your argument, you haven't done anything except just refuting mine (you keep telling me to do research, and when I present it you refute it). So, where are your "facts"?
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@lonely boner, and where exactly are these "facts or opinions" that don't pertain to the argument? Examples?
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@lonely boner, and your stance has nothing, absolutely nothing. You have backed up your argument with nothing.
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@Gavin, well put(:
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@J to the ROC, maybe some gays are religious.
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@Eight Ball, you took the words right out of my mouth.
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@Marten Reed, my entire original comment is a good list of facts that clearly you didn't read. And the "facts" that don't pertain we're the famous people who might be gay but I haven't pointed that out enough times already have I? There's not much needed for me to prove that your facts are flawed because you use Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia has never been used by anyone I've ever heard of since you can change it to whatever you want. Our hellbent on using that as a source and then saying I have no facts but you didn't even read my original comment so clearly you're just a twelve year old troll who thinks he knows what's going on in the world
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@lonely boner, well okay then. Look it up online, you'll find many sources other then Wikipedia online about animal homosexuality. And homosexuality has been around for thousands and thousands of years. It even existed around the time of Jesus Christ. And you know what he did? He treated them equally and with love. He did with everyone. Maybe you should be a good Christian and think, what would Jesus do. Your religion doesn't command others to follow it, only the people inside of it. So that being said, you shouldn't be able to tell non Christian gays they can't marry whether it be for financial reasons or a sign of love and commitment.
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@Gavin, I never said I don't like gay people I only said that it wouldn't be the same thing as a marriage. There's no way it'd be the same thing since homosexuals want different things than heterosexuals. There's differences between homosexual relationships and heterosexual relationships so why should it be called the same thing?
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@lonely boner, marriage isn't something that Christians made up. It's been around all over the place. Native Americans, Africans, Muslims, all cultures have some sort of marriage system. And what do you mean there are differences in Herero and homo relationships? Only the way they have intercourse is different.
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@lonely boner, you must seriously just be an idiot then, huh? One, Wikipedia cannot "just be changed", especially on controversial topics such as the one I used. If they have to, they lock down certain pages to ensure the information isn't "tainted" by opinion. And while the website itself may not be the most reliable, at least I have provided a source for my info. Two, you say your original comment is a good list of facts. You say there is a deprecation of state and church. What do you mean by that? Who's disapproving of who? Moving on to the sacred rite, there has been marriage long before Catholicism has been around (several thousands years in fact) so you guys don't really have a patent on that. Plus, where is your sourcing for "homosexual people say that it isn't a choice but other homosexuals say it is"? Or is everything you say just fact, because you're the all-knowing here? Then you say that you THINK "this whole thing comes from the 60s-80s free love".
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@lonely boner, that right there, that's an opinion. I mean its total bull anyway (we'll cover this shortly), but I know you're trying to pass it off as fact now. Now can you cover these four "loves" that are so integral to your original comment? You seem well versed on the matter and I would like to know more about it. Three, this has to do with the "famous" people you are so fond of. You only brought that up once explicitly, that's it. I don't know why you think you brought it up multiple times, but I guess it would make sense to assume you are delusional. Also, it has to do with your opinion that homosexuality sprouted in the latter half of the 20th century. Oscar Wilde, writer, was widely believed to be homosexual by historians and live in the 19th century. Richard the Lionheart, King of England, lived a millennium ago. And DaVinci, famed artist and inventor, lived during the Renaissance. None lived in the 1960s-1980s, yet all homosexual.
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@lonely boner, so while you say they aren't related in this matter, they definitely are prime examples of your incorrectness. If you can't make the connection between my bringing them up and your original comment, then I think you need to stop using the interwebs. It might hurt that minute brain of yours. Four, like I reiterated several times before, you have done nothing to back yourself up. You say that your original comment is so fact filled it rivals the Library of Alexandria itself. So prove it. And use a reliable source, will ya. I mean none of mine will work apparently. But anyway, that's my case thus far. And if we're playing the guessing game here, and I'm a 12 year old troll (nice use of the interwebs speak there, total troll here - you know, just arguing for equal rights), that must mean your a fundamentalist bible thumper who thinks Fox News is just the greatest, huh? At least that's what you come of since you say everything you spout is fact. Au revoir.
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@Marten Reed, come off as* for that last bit. Didn't want to confuse lonely boner and his 8th grade reading level.
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@Gavin, they've tried this countless times. They were going to create a "civil union" which had all of the exact same right but wasn't called marriage. They refused and said it wasn't equal because it was called something different. South Park did an episode on it.
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*watches debates about homosexuality*
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@Paul The Llama, just what im doing now
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I personally don't really have a stance on gay marriage. The way I was raised was to believe that it was wrong, but it doesn't hurt me in any way if other people get married. It doesn't bother me at all. The one thing that does bother me is when ignorance such as chick fillet or the more recent Starbucks type of thing occurs. For those who don't know it's Starbucks saying that if you support traditional marriage they don't want your business. Personally I think that both companies are wrong and they shouldn't have an opinion on politics and get back to serving me delicious chicken sandwiches and coffee.
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@Bushwhacker94, except that what you said about Starbucks is false. While they have stated they support same-sex marriage (Microsoft, Nike, and Amazon also did this in support of Washington state's same-sex marriage law), a quick google and look on Snopes shows they never said anything pertaining to traditional marriage. Source: www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/starbucks.asp
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You can get female homophobes too...
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@Maddyisawesome, unfortunately everyone assumes you're a man on the internet, but we're already discussing one societal fallacy; let's not get into another.
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Virginia legalized gay marriage today!
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This really annoys me. Reading all of your comments I just have to clear up this misconception. Homophobia is not the hating of gays. That's just straight up prejudice. Homophobia is nonsensical fear of gays Same as arachnophobia is the nonsensical fear of spiders. See what I'm getting at here? I myself suffer rather mildly from homophobia. I say mildly because I get really uncomfortable around people who act gay. You know what I mean? When they act like a princess and stuff like that. However one of my best friends is gay and he is just normal. we hang out all the time but you'd have know idea he was gay unless he told you. Normal gay doesn't bother me. Sorry just get really irritated when you Label prejudiced bastards as homophobes it gives us a bad name.
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@Inflatablecheesebrgr, gay is different from flamboyant.
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@snaK, I think you misunderstood. I want to use the word poof but I don't think it's used anywhere other than australia. It's slightly different to flamboyant.
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@Inflatablecheesebrgr, I understand how you feel. I'm gay and even I don't understand why other gay guys act girly.
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Today, a kid in my PE class said that homosexuals are disgusting. I have never felt so much hate in one spot since Justin Bieber.
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@FlyingPineapple, if it were me and we both the same sex or gender, I would've snogged their face off. Would've been interesting
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It's funny, because I'm genderfluid FAAB (female assigned at birth. I have girl parts, basically) and I like girls and people are always going on at me about homosexuality as though I'm gay. I just laugh and send them to sites to try and educate them. Any other genderqueer/ trans* folks on here?
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@PeenWentz, I'm demi and usually look at gender as being more fluid because of it.
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@PeenWentz, so not fully how you feel but somewhat there.
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@Jedi Reynolds, you don't consider yourself genderqueer, but you understand and acknowledge that gender is a spectrum? Is that what you mean?
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@PeenWentz, yes, actually. I'm not too great with words.
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@Jedi Reynolds, nah, it's ok, I just wanted to clarify
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As a labeled "homophobe" I would like to say something before being downvoted into oblivion. I follow my religious beliefs. As such I oppose gay marriage. Yet I have never had anything against homosexuals. Throughout my entire high school career I sat with my friend every day at lunch and surprise. He was gay. He KNEW I didn't agree with him and I KNEW he disagreed with me. Yet we were friends and looked past this. Not all "homophobes" are what you think. Thank you.
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To be honest, I'm a Christian who's against same sex marriage. I'm not one of those annoying people who goes around hating gays, and I don't judge them, either. But I still believe what they do is wrong. I'm not looking for any debates here, just so you guys know. I'm just stating what i believe.
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@Paul The Llama, I completely agree with you. The way I was taught was to love them just as any other person (which is what they are). So I don't agree with them or their life choices but I think we should just live in peace with it.
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@Paul The Llama, what they do isn't wrong. Being gay isn't just about going around and banging someone the same gender as yourself, it's about feeling a love connection with a person.
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@Silent Assassian, I respect your opinion, but people don't choose to be gay. They don't wake up and say "I'm gonna be gay from now on". Saying you "disagree" with their life choices is like someone saying they don't "agree" with someone else being black.
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@Paul The Llama, I'm the same way. I had a few friends in high school who were gay, and I'm pretty sure they knew I opposed it. But, we were all friends. Never hated each other. People just assume that because you don't support gay marriage, you hate all of the gays and are labeled as a closed-minded, bigot homophobe. We all have personal and some/most of us religious beliefs. We all have one. You don't have to agree, but I do ask for you to respect it. I promise I'll do the same for you. Have a good day!!
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@Paul The Llama, I just want to ask you something that I've never really had the opportunity to ask to someone with your views before. Would you rather a Christian homosexual couple who regularly did charity work and the like got married in a church or a non-Christian heterosexual couple who laughed at Christianity and just wanted to use the church because it's pretty? I've always been curious because the latter can get married in a church but the former cannot (in many places) What's more important: faith or sexuality? I'm not looking for a fight or debate either, I'm genuinely curious about what someone holding your beliefs would say.
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@Dick Dagger, it troubles me that you say "I don't judge them" followed directly by "believe what they do is wrong"
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@PeenWentz, my notifications are messed up, so if this is late, I'm sorry. I would definitely say that faith is way more important than sexuality, especially in that specific example.
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@Raedee, I don't believe that all gays will go to hell. Lots of judgmental Christians do. I don't believe that gays are terrible people, or that they hate God, because that is extremely untrue. Judging can mean lots of different things, and judging and thinking that something is wrong are two totally different things.
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Some pictures on here piss me off. This is not one of them.
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I'll treat a man like a princess... I-if that's ok with him
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Beautiful.
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We're here. We're queer. Get used to it!
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I had a bisexual girlfriend. She left me for a dude. Sad times
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Actually no... But whatever floats your boat princess.
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@Tyler643, whatever floats your goat
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Wait... I don't remember going up to my women and saying "hey that's a nice dick you got there"
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@Stealthytwinkie, I don't remember being able to see the average dude's dick so how would you even say that?
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@Gavin, Looking..?
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@Senior Citizen, well I'd imagine that'd be a pretty easy thing to spot.
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Um no...
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Homophobia the fear of homosapiens
You know what you should do if you don't like homosexuals? Don't marry a homosexual. Problem solved we can all go home.