The new ten
For anyone confused the US treasury is planning on changing the face on the 20 dollar bill from Andrew Jackson to Harriet Tubman for reasons or something
@pls help, I don't see why Jackson is being displaced from the front of the bill when he led the US in the War of 1812. Why not replace Alexander Hamilton on the $10? I'm just saying he didn't do anything of any historical significance and died after a pistol duel, so why should he keep his place on a bill while a great general and former President is displaced?
@The New Night Guard, Alexander Hamilton initially created the financial system that allowed our country to grow, fought in the American Revolution, was George Washington's right hand man, and was an advocate against slavery. He definitely deserves to be on the $10 bill. Andrew Jackson forced Native Americans onto the Trail of Tears (an extremely shameful and hateful part of American history), and does not deserve to be on the $20 bill.
@The New Night Guard, alexander hamilton did quite a bit of historical significance
@The New Night Guard, Andrew Jackson was a states' rights activist, and actually vetoed the creation of the Second U.S. National Bank, so it's ironic we put him on our national currency. Also he was a djck to the Cherokee people.
@The New Night Guard,
Andrew Jackson would be the guy that walks around your local mall wearing a T-shirt saying "Hitler was Right".
@pls help, actually both Jackson and tub man will be represented. Jackson is still too important to completely take away.
@ZacharyHaleComstock, then why not a famous indian?
@Firecracker Jim, Harriet Tubman is a widely recognized figure because of her contributions to the fight against slavery, and having saved hundreds of lives of escaped slaves during the Civil War. Unfortunately, there are not many widely recognizable Native Americans in American history :(. Also, to be frank, Harriet Tubman is a woman. I am all for women's rights, and gender equality, but there was an extremely intense push from many feminists for a woman to be placed on a bill. And many still aren't even happy with Tubman on the $20 bill as well as the fact that the $10 and $5 bills are going to have other historical American women featured on their backs. Overall, there is absolutely no way that EVERYONE will be happy, but the Secretary of the Treasury is trying his best to bring more attention to other significant figures and events in American history by featuring them on the bills, and I commend him for his efforts and am glad to see these changes coming.
@pls help, they're also changing the back of the 5 and the 10
@ZacharyHaleComstock,what happened to just presidents on the money?
@Cpzombie, Benjamin Franklin on the $100 bill wasn't a president.
@Cpzombie, What's wrong with representing more of our rich, complex history on our money?
@ZacharyHaleComstock, my deal is the replacement should have had as much historical impact as the original person featured. For Jackson I make an exception as, while I think he was amazing, his treatment of the natives causes issue. Personally I think we should have put a large group of famous natives on the back, with whoever on the front, and given Jackson some other deal as he was significant. Like a 50 cent coin or something
@ZacharyHaleComstock, and Lin Manuel Miranda just wrote a 3 hour music playing 8 days a week on broadway about why Hamilton should stay on the $10 bill. If you like the history of the founding fathers I suggest you check out the soubdtrack, its called Hamilton and it is one of the best musicals of all time.
@ZacharyHaleComstock, as this app has taught me Andrew Jackson may have been a super villain but he was the only president to say he was gonna do something and actually do it so he's also the most honest president.
@ZacharyHaleComstock, ....and she was a felon by her heroic acts. What's your point?
@Orlandude, oh trust me, I'm a theatre major, I've heard it plenty of times through 😎
@Thefaithfulatheist, I can respect that. He's still going to be on the back of the bill, so it's not like they're completely removing him from all currency
@Jeb Bush, he's still going to be on the back of the bill. He's not completely gone.
@BoPeep, she's an important part of American history that is widely recognized and is appreciated for her work, regardless of her (at the time) illegal actions. Obviously many civil rights activists were arrested and convicted of various crimes, and there are the obvious ones that come to mind as key parts of American history (i.e., Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks). People rarely make history by following the rules
@ZacharyHaleComstock, oh ok, didn't know that thanks for the info.
@I Poop Often , He hated paper money as well, making it more ironic.
@The New Night Guard, DON'T DISS HAMILTON
@The New Night Guard, I don't think anyone should be replaced.. This is ridiculous
@ZacharyHaleComstock, awesome. I fvcking love that musical so much.
@Cpzombie, The general rule was presidents and founding fathers. This is some real bs and I guarantee this will be to most defaced note in history.
@ZacharyHaleComstock, Andrew Jackson was also the man who grew up as an orphan, living on the streets, and eventually became the president of the United States. He fought back against the power of the wealthy. He deserves his spot on the $20.
@CriTiKa1, Andrew Jackson will still be featured on the back of the bill, he's not being completely removed. I understand his historical importance but changes such as these were imminent and they won't even come into effect until about the mid 2020s.
@ZacharyHaleComstock, If your blaming Andrew Jackson for the trail of tears you might as well have blamed every American at the time period. The majority of American supported the trail of tears, and Historians agree that the it was inevitable so you can't really say it's his fault for this shameful part of American history. I do agree it was a low point. But if it wasn't him then it would have been some other president that would have. Also the reason why he is on the $20 bill is due to the fact that under his presidency was the only time our nation has even been debt free.
@Cmendez, I understand that it was inevitable but he was the one who pushed it to happen at that point. Obviously I'm not saying "Andrew Jackson was the only person at the time who was racist against Native Americans," but he pushed it into action. It's also ironic, however, that he is on one of our bills even though he opposed the national bank.
@ZacharyHaleComstock, well I mean he pushed it because America wanted the land. It's also ironic because in his opinion there shouldn't be a paper currency he believed everything should be paid in gold.
Her face just like Franklin will look at me with disappointment as I spend them on blackjack and hookers.
Honestly I think that there is a lot of better options for people with more notable contributions to America than her to be featured on something as prominent as the 20 dollar bill.
@southpaw , like..?
@Korywitak, I don't know maybe Thomas Edison?
@southpaw , I know right! All she ever did was fight and lead many enslaved people to freedom. Those pesky blacks! They want everything. I blame Obama!
Get off your high horse man. She's important to many people. Myself included and I'm not even black.
Edison ' initial discoveries were amazing. But he was a terrible person. The way he treated Tesla was terrible.
@Korywitak, MLK, JFK ( and yes j know he's on a coin already) Rockefeller or any people who are better know that revolutionized American culture through art or music. Or impacted the American economy Or revolutionized all of our daily lives through significant technological advancement. Or even those who contributed more to altering and revolutionizing social equality and peace in America, thus anyone who had a extremely significant lasting detrimental impact on the world we know today. There's countless figures of American society and culture who affected the country more significantly than her.
@southpaw , I think you care too much about something that means nothing. It's a face on a piece of paper.
@arcadefire, I never said she wasn't important, And most definitely never made any inferences that this had to do with race, I think you need to work or you source analyzing skills before you make assumptions in the future, I simply stated that there are better candidates for it in my opinion.
@southpaw , and you need to read the entire article they released. MLK is going to be on the back of the $5 bill along with other icons of the Civil Right movement. And on the back of the $10 they're going to add some women from the suffragette movement. And jackson is only switching sides. He's going to be on the back. No ones erasing him "or white history" as some idiots claim. Not you but some.
@Jonnasty, (means nothing to you) and I agree your point is valid, and no a face on a piece of paper isn't really something of great importance but what's on a counties currency isn't simply just paper, it's a important aspect of said countries culture and and values with representation of various national symbols similar to a flag.
@arcadefire, whether I read the articles or not is Irrelevant to whether I think there's more suitable persons to be put on the bill and, that's good, MLK is an influential figure in American history and is more deserving to be allocated on the front of the 20 than she is , I simply think that a better choice could have been made on whom to be placed on the bill than she or Jackson.
@southpaw , ok and I'll respect that. But I'm just saying she's hands down the "most famous slave" and while she didn't end slavery herself, she fought against it. So it's symbolic of that era in our history, which wether we like it or not it's an important era, and yes Lincoln freed the slaves but it's good to remember that they were fighting and dying for their freedom too.
@arcadefire, I see what you're saying, agree to disagree on importance of specific American figures compared to other specific American figures and where they should be displayed and embraced in American culture?
@southpaw , Agree! 🇺🇸
@arcadefire, I've always found Sojourner Truth to be more worthy than Harriott Tubman to be on a bill. While Tubman has more name recognition, Truth has an image more recognisable, and if I'm correct did more in terms of being an activist than Tubman.
@arcadefire, back to TUMBLRRRR
@4Chan Ambassador , trust me I'm the last person to want to go to Tumbler. I'm simply saying that if they're going to pick someone based on these qualities, I'd pick the better one.
I heard they were replacing somebody on money a while ago and I'm glad it's Jackson. He was racist even compared to other people who lived in his time
@Gay Rattlesnake, You know, we should just destroy the Consititution... You know what, take out anything America has done before perfectly safe zone perfect 2016. Screw everybody who built this country. Day waz raycis and sheit.
@Gay Rattlesnake , Andrew Jackson was also the man who grew up as an orphan, living on the streets, and eventually became the president of the United States. He fought back against the power of the wealthy. He deserves his spot on the $20.
@4Chan Ambassador , they built the country on top of people who were already there, who are still oppressed today, so many native Americans were killed that there still isn't enough of them to have an actual voice. Andrew Jackson specifically took land from them, and when the Cherokee people legally won a case in the us court system, he decided to ignore it.
@CriTiKa1, they built this country on top of people who were already there, who are still oppressed today. So many native Americans were killed that there still isn't enough of them to have an actual voice. Andrew Jacksom specifically took land from them to expand America, and when the Cherokee people legally won a case in the US court system, he decided to ignore it.
@4Chan Ambassador , but what you is the same sh*t as safe zones. You want the same life and privileges that your racist grandparents had. White supremacy and all that jazz.
@4Chan Ambassador , *what you want*
@arcadefire, I want America to be united and proud. I want to have my freedoms that were promised to me in the Constitution that our forefathers wrote and our ancestors built upon. I don't want to live in the past, I want to keep moving forward, making progress, doing things like being the first people on Mars or the first people to mine astroids. But what do we get? "DAS RAYCIS, DIS RAYCIS, INDIANS N' SHEIT, YO PRIVILEGE"
@Gay Rattlesnake , Why don't you route for America for a change, yah fückin Liberal.
@4Chan Ambassador , you can't just pretend it didn't happen, America owes the Native Americans at least better conditions than they have right now
@Gay Rattlesnake, I want you to try something. I want you to find the house of every individual that, while in grade school, you may have offended or bothered, and I want you to 'repay' them for what you may have done as a child. Do that for every mistake you've done in the past, involving any group of people, individual person, or organization. I want you to 'repay' anyone you may have wronged in your lifetime. But you won't do that will you? The value of you mistreating those people, is that you learned from it so it won't happen again. The past is behind you, but you remember it so it doesn't happen again. You keep moving forward in life, and move on from the past.
If America spent all it's time and efforts focusing on it's wrong doings in the past, we wouldn't move forward. Native Americans have been helped by numerous government programs and organizations, but the truth is that they're a dying race and culture. We can say sorry a million times and it'll never be enough...
@4Chan Ambassador , Best we can do is not let it happen again, which as we grew as a nation, we figured out.
@4Chan Ambassador , i don't remember illegally vanishing an entire people from there home and ignoring their human rights for centuries. I'm just saying that Andrew wasn't a great man, his biggest impact was taking land and dehumanizing an entire race
@Gay Rattlesnake, And destroying the national bank which is a literal leech on our economy
@4Chan Ambassador , well I don't think that quite outweighs the thousands of deaths he is responsible for. He's not even leaving the bill completely, he's just moving to the back
@4Chan Ambassador , you don't want to live in the past but you want to keep him. If you truly meant that you wouldn't give a sh*t. We're in debt but let's go to Mars. What's the point of that. We're never going to live there. But whatever man. Do you!
I'm just waiting for the day that we put scientists on at least some of our money like the entire rest of the world
@Tyler53, isn't Benjamin kind of a scientist. and not to start anything but I'm sure Christians (majority of America) wouldn't want an atheist or agnostic guy like Einstein next to "In God We Trust." They already feel like there's a war against Christians in the USA now imagine if that were to happen.
@arcadefire, this idea that America has been attacking Christians is so ridiculous it makes me mad if anything Christians has been trying to take over America and get upset when nobody is happy about it
@arcadefire, yeah but Franklin is on the currency because he was a founding father, not because of his contributions to science
@arcadefire, and I also don't think science and religion have to hate eachother so much. I'm a Christian and I'm also studying to be a physicist
Another fantastic way to spend tax payer money in the name of equality.
@1NutParking, is this what they mean by "you gotta spend money to make money"?
@1NutParking, they've been talking about this for about 3 years. Her being black had nothing to do with it. They wanted a woman on the $20 bill- Harriet, Eleanor, and Parks were the finalist and they chose her.
Bet you're the type of guy who was butthurt when they gave Caitlyn Jenner that ESPN award yet you don't give a sh*t about who wins it this year, as long as it's a straight white man. Cause if it's not, then they just won because of the PC Police. But you're not a racist or homophobic and you treat everyone the same, right?
@1NutParking, you know the US updates their money sometimes, right? The new $100 bills came out pretty recently and no one pouted about it. And anyway Jackson was a terrible person.
@arcadefire, first off I said equality, not simply because she is black. I couldn't care less who is on the money. I'm just frustrated that they are going to spend a shjt ton of taxpayer money in order to reprint bills in the name of equality. You sure assumed a lot about me there based on little to no information about what I stand for. I don't care how long they have been planning it for, it's still ridiculous.
@HolyCatchphrase, I do know that, and unless there are serious threats to counterfeit bills it's ridiculous and a waste of spending. If you like paying more unnecessary taxes than fine, but I sure as hell don't.
@1NutParking, well a lot of those taxpayers voted it for it so it's not as stupid as you say it is.
@1NutParking, the smaller bills were up for redesign due to new security measures, that's how it even got suggested that we put women on money. It's not just a random thing.
@1NutParking, They aren't reprinting bills, they're going to print bills at the same rate with just a different typeface.
@UmActually, do you realize how much it costs to redesign just one bill? The added security measures, new printing material, even development of new fabric types. All I'm saying is this is part of the reason that we are 19 trillion in debt. Unnecessary spending. And I'm getting hazed for it. Wake up people, every single American owes 400 grand. We are giving foreign aid to over 100 countries when we can't even support our vets. That's all I'm saying, the twenty was recently redesigned a few years ago. There haven't been severe security risks with the design. It's unnecessary.
@1NutParking, Bills are changed slightly
@1NutParking, Sorry, I hit send before I was ready. We redesign our bills every few years to combat counterfeiting. It isn't unnecessary spending at all.
@arcadefire, This was never voted for.
@CriTiKa1, maybe not on a national level but there were a lot of polls because they wanted to remove Jackson for being an assh*le. Just because you didn't know doesn't mean it didn't happen.
@arcadefire, Polls aren't the same as voting for it. Andrew Jackson was also the man who grew up as an orphan, living on the streets, and eventually became the president of the United States. He fought back against the power of the wealthy. He deserves his spot on the $20.
@CriTiKa1, Hitler also had a miserable childhood. They're both equal in my book.
@arcadefire, "I don't like that person so he's automatically a nazi"
You people are so childish.
@CriTiKa1, dude, Hitler admired the guy, Hitler killed Jews (and others) Jackson removed natives then killed them.
@CriTiKa1, all for the betterment of the white race right. So who gives a sh*t.
@arcadefire, I love how you people think that a person's bad actions erase any good they did. Jackson was an advocate for a true democracy, one where the people get what they vote for. He was the first president who grew up as an average joe and he was the founder of the Democratic Party. But you don't care about any of that. You fixate on one action he took and never shift your gaze, never broaden you perspective. You ignore all facts that don't agree with your beliefs.
@CriTiKa1, and I love how you people get butthurt about everything you keep this app exciting inbetween updates.
@CriTiKa1, You're an ass, man. Always down voting me and all that BS. You're a grade A creep. The type of guy who says "blacks need to get over slavery" but be the first to say "whites started this country" as if your grandpa had built it.
That's the look I have when I see a repost
I think Snoop Dogg deserves it more than George Washington and his wooden teeth
@pepperoni dogfart, Actually, he had real teeth. They were only pulled from his slaves though, so nbd right
Surprised she's not on the back
He killed the bank; then the bank killed him.
She looks like a scary man and I'd probably stop using 20s
Wait... Harriet tubman?
@Fes, yup, from the headline I saw she'll be no the $20 bill.
@CueXFilesTheme, Yeah for some reason the decided to replace the original tresurer, you know, the one redponsibkd for money. I'm not against them putting her or some other woman on money, I just think it's dumb they replaced the guy that was in charge of money
@Davrial, no they're not they're replacing Andrew jackson on the $20 the person who killed a bunch of native americans and (correct me if I'm wrong) started the trail of tears
@CentaurianHalfie, the Trail of Tears didn't start with any of the founding fathers
@Davrial, i don't think he's a founding father
@Davrial, and i just looked it up it was started under his presidency
@Davrial, also he was against banks and even vetoed the creation of the second us national Bank.
@Davrial, he also wasn't a founding father. He did create the Democratic party though.
@CentaurianHalfie, Andrew Jackson was also the man who grew up as an orphan, living on the streets, and eventually became the president of the United States. He fought back against the power of the wealthy. He deserves his spot on the $20.
@CriTiKa1, you're going to have your opinion I'm going to have mine, we could argue back and forth forever and we wouldn't get anywhere. I've said my piece and if you didn't agree before you won't agree with me later. Tl;dr let's agree to disagree