Silly Bernie, Communism never works
@Pool boy till I die, Communism works but the people don't
@JewishXenu, no people do work, and will, whether they want to or not.
@JewishXenu, no, no it doesnt. Especially without human rights violations, poverty, or famine.
@Sambob, he meant communism would work if all people were bots programed to have the most collective success. But people don't work with it, humans are assholes by nature who turn corrupt. That's why communism creates those other things like famine and poverty. Those are symptoms of the decease of human psyche, we can't truly care for one another
@Sambob, until they get very hungry due to lack of jobs.
Then people riot, murder, and steal to feed their families.
Plus it's fun.
@Pool boy till I die, He knows, hence why his economic plans aren’t communist
@JewishXenu, communism is meant to be a system designed for use by humans. If the only target demographic is incompatible with the system, the system is flawed.
What you said is as wrong as saying “it’s possible to fly by jumping off of a building while flapping your arms really hard, but it just doesn’t work when people do it”. It’s not humans that are at fault in that equation, it’s that flapping a pair of arms doesn’t provide lift strong enough to fly.
Communism doesn’t work because it’s a fatally flawed system.
@Pool boy till I die, What if he's only promoting it because he knows communism always kills a bunch of commies?
@Bomb Carrier, I think you have the right idea, but took it in the wrong direction. Under communism, productivity greatly suffers because individuals don't see the fruits of their own labors. There's no incentive for an individual to innovate, work harder, or work longer because they'll still earn the same amount. It's not because humans are asshats, but because we have a sense of self worth. Say you work in a toy factory and you make an average of 15 toys an hour. Mr. Doe who works across from you makes an average of 9 toys an hour. You wouldn't think it's fair that you both take home the same pay check every week. You would either demand a raise because you do more work, or you would slack off more.
@ALargeRacoon, the smartphones we are using to access this app are only possible under capitalism.
Yikes, this comparison is laughable
Imagine still not knowing the difference between neoliberal capitalism and actual socialism/Marxism in 2018
@StarsAyyy, I wish I had that Scooby Doo meme where it has ‘Neoliberal capitalism’ on the monster mask and socialism is underneath all along
Don’t you get it guys? It’s not national socialism, it’s alternate right politics!
@Kekistan Ambassador, yes because there is no difference between the neoliberal capitalist "socialism" practiced in European countries like Germany and sweden, and the socialism that was practiced in the USSR? Stop talking about topics you dont understand
As in I usually pay over 1200 a month in taxes, owe at the end of the year, and this year i will owe nothing and get a refund for the first time since i was 20. I will get ALL of my money back.
I live in Akron you presumptuous asshat. I work in Cleveland. I represent the average middle class family. I will most certainly benefit more than someone who makes 200k+ a year who gained a couple percent. How is that so hard for you people to understand. My federal taxes will come back to me. I get all of my money back. You must not understand what that means. To have 7-800 a month extra in your pocket.
By the way, i voted against Trump, but im not a mouth breathing sheep that believes anything the media echo chamber tells me. Your confirmation bias is outrageous my friend.
You are incredibly off base in everything youve said so far. You, and people like you reject that Trump could ever do anything right or good. That mentality and the belief in what news organizations
And yeah attacking my town does nothing. This town has been run by well meaning Democrats and socialists for over 50 years. Detroit has been a socialist lite utopia nearly as long. Trust me when i say it doesnt work.
It still doesnt change the fact you indoctrinated "educated" folk caused trump to happen. Youll do it again. Dont think i dont share a lot of the same viewpoints because honestly you would be surprised, i just dont accept socialism and a nanny state to fix anything. This is the government that overpays for everything from ink pens to jet fighters. They could fvck up their own wet dream. Bernie and hillary and their ilk wont and cant solve a dàmn thing. Not saying Trump will, but not interfering is a better choice.
Btw corporatism is what we have, Capitalism is not. I dont own my means of production, the governmeny does. We are fvcked up because of government and politicians, not because of a lack of those things. Ocasio-Cortez is an idiot so theres that
@cruss4612, we have a mixed market system planned by the state under a Keynesian ethos. Corporatism is just the natural result of having a state intervening in a market.
@cruss4612, copy this and paste it as a reply to reverseGiraffe, the virtue signaling asshat.
@big freedom, ha true
Is okay, they got 8 pencils
Bernie’s a hypocrite.
@Unitard, and an idiot
Just call socialism “Viking capitalism” and all those white pride southern idiots will eat it up like baked beans on a Louisiana sidewalk
@ReverseGiraffe, no, no they wont. The reason Trump got elected was because of comments like this. You marginalized an entire subset of a population and acted like youre of superior intellect. You played party to negative stereotypes and insulted a huge section of the country.
Good job, youll get him elected again.
@cruss4612, lol we got a butthurt southerner here. Trump’s going to be too busy getting impeached for a re-election. Also if you’d all stop shooting yourselves in the foot and voting for idiots that poison your lands, cut all your services, and hand all your hard earned money to the rich then maybe your states wouldn’t be dead last in education
@ReverseGiraffe, im from Ohio, Trump isnt going to be impeached, and the tax cuts OVERWHELMINGLY benefit the lower classes. A 24k dollar standard deduction for married filing jointly doesnt benefit the rich, dumbàss. There is no evidence corporations do anything detrimental to the environment in larger capacity under republicans than democrats
@ReverseGiraffe, in fact, this will be a telling period with a significantly reduced EPA.
@cruss4612, There has been nothing but deregulation going on and you think that the environment won’t be affected??? Did you not see how Scott Pruitt did everything to line his pockets and lived in an apartment funded by gas lobbyists? Don’t give me that bs. The tax cuts literally cut the 1% by the most. Where tf is you evidence on YOUR ALL CAPS OVERWHELMINGLY? You make me ashamed to be from the same state. Come out of the corn fields and to Columbus and get educated. Can’t wait to see what else Michael Cohen has to say about good ol’ Donny. How much more can you guys take? How many more blatantly false statements and tweets inciting violence? How many dead journalists will it take before you realize he’s obsessed with removing the democracy out of America? Why is the Russia cyber task force still not funded? Because you guys know you’ll lose without committing treason
@cruss4612, tax cuts without substitutes lead to nothing but trouble. Trump is trying to backfill on tax cuts the federal gov't cant afford by engaging in meaningless trade wars where no one ends up winning
@ReverseGiraffe, tell you. That position will lose you more and more of the middle. You will lose more and more votes. Good luck
@cruss4612, yeah go Crackron lmao. And losing voters being harshly critical as opposed to putting kids in cages permanently scarring them for life and then letting whoever the fück walked in from the street be put in charge of them and allow actual pedophiles the opportunity to do whatever they want with them since there was no accountability and they wouldn’t even let senators visit the TrumpCamps. So if it’s a race to the bottom I’m game because you fùckers hit bedrock a loooonnnnggg time ago
@TheWhiteWolf, 1.5 trillion over ten years vs 30 trillion added in deficit... hmmm... or the 20 trillion were in debt now? It looks awfully positive. The federal government is bloated. It needs trimmed and refocused on priorities like science, technology, defense, and enforcement of immigration laws.
@cruss4612, I dont disagree that we need to refocus it to be more productful but cutting the money going into it wont do that. All the budget cuts do it remove money without moving it to anywhere new
@cruss4612, nice deflection on the TrumpCamps bro. Also Paul “balanced budget” Ryan added 10 trillion with that giveaway to the rich and now he’s angling to cut services like Medicare and Medicaid. And you can say “oh that’s all fine” until something bad happens to you and suddenly YOU’RE the one needing to rely on government assistance. I’ve seen it happen to a big Trump guy that wanted Obamacare repealed. He was singing a different tune after that first hospital bill rolled in. And yes YOUR administration wants to eliminate coverage for preexisting conditions so you better have good coverage when you finally get cancer from drinking that polluted Cuyahoga water. Good luck
@ReverseGiraffe, Akron sources their water from elsewhere. Nice try.
@ReverseGiraffe, I actually used to not like Trump all that much, but it’s because of people like you that I now appreciate him more
@Pool boy till I die, and yet not a single one of you asshats has acknowledged the TrumpCamps
@Pool boy till I die, come on! If you like him then embrace the fascism lite. Be proud of your authoritarian tendencies! Stomp on the face of the other!
@ReverseGiraffe, Jesus are you autistic or something
@Pool boy till I die, @cruss4612, @thewhitewolf, @Osama bin Dead yes because I’m extremely focused on why all you pùssies won’t say anything about the camps? Come on what’s the matter? does it make you uncomfortable because it’s almost a play for play of the opening act for all the other horrible atrocities that have happened throughout history? I want to hear your justifications. Where are you “build the wall” shítheels? Is this how Mexico is finally paying for the wall? Through the suffering of their people?
@ReverseGiraffe, trump camps? Do you mean the immigration/ deportation of illegal immigrants? Here is a fun fact! Did you know Barack Obama (D) deported more people than Bush (R)? And Trump (whom i do not like very much at all) is not on track to deport as many people as Obama? Or that the policies that separated families was enacted during obamas presidency? Which trump ended such policies. Are you saying that Mexico's people suffer because of american policies? American policies have no jurisdiction in mexico. Mexico's people suffer because of their backwards stupid extremely dangerous and corrupt gov't. Admittedly or gov't has corruption on both sides. But it is not near as bad. The late great John McCain is a shining example that there are good people. And that a person can have a different opinion of how gov't should function. But that does not make them a bad person. Health care for example. The left would say if we all chip in free health care, even for those who can't afford it
@ReverseGiraffe, and that sounds great! I would love free health care if it was free. But at the end of the day it isn't free because it would be paid for by someone else aka the tax payer. If my job supplies health care then why should i pay my hard earned money for someone else to go see a doctor? And i simply cant choose not to pay for it because i would go to jail. Its robbery. But i will not simply call you a idiot for saying you want socialized health care. No not at all. I assume you have good intentions for those you cant afford health care. How does that make you a "libtard" you are not retarded in anyway for stating your opions on gov't. And i hope that me saying basically "if you want health care pay for it yourself. And if you cant afford it get a job. If you have a job and cant afford it. Put yourself through night school. And work durring the day pay for your education. And get a better job to pay for your healthcare" but me saying this makes me a racist because i am
@ReverseGiraffe, a conservative? I sure hope they haven't changed the meaning of racism to meaning paying for you own stuff, Or that if you want to enter a country you should do it legally. How does this make me a facist or racist? A nazi. An (german) acronym for National Socialists Workers Party. The last time i checked socialist was on the left end of the spectrum? The nazi party was all about big government. State controlled: media, education, services. You name it the nazi government did it. That sounds like socialism to me. Wait Bernie Sanders is closer to Nazism than trump is? Huh. Listen at the end of the day we are all people. I don't want to think of a fellow funny pics user as and enemy of me. Im sure you are a good person with good intentions. And I'd like to think im a decent person too. I hope you dont think of me as a racist or an idiot because i disagree with you on certain things. Please realize the arrogance of your argument. Have a nice day.
@keegathy, don’t just shít on the rug and act like you’ve won
@keegathy, THE SOCIAL POLICIES WERENT WHAT MADE THE NAZIS EVIL IT WAS THE SCAPEGOATING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND THEIR SUBSEQUENT DETENTION AND GENOCIDE. TWO OF WHICH TRUMP HAS ALREADY DONE. And the racial gerrymandering and voter ID laws in states where Republicans have control IS racist to the point that a federal judge said they target African Americans with “surgical precision.” And yes all conservatives are complicit in this until they demand that fair and equal representation and voting power is given to all. The thing that the VOTING RIGHTS ACT GAVE EVERYONE TILL GORSUCH AND THE CUCKSERVATIVES ON THE COURT RULED IT DOWN.
@ReverseGiraffe, but a social policy of the nazi part was euthanasia, and racism, and this was achievable because of big government, and controling the media, and the education system. And they gained this power using bully techniques of scaring people of limiting free speach through terror and pointing out a clear enemy, the jews in their case. The detention of criminals Is relateable to the detention of inocents? ILLEGALLY crossing a border is ILLEGAL. Last time i checked if I do something ILLEGAL it constitutes me being labeled as a CRIMINAL also leading to DETENTION. Scapegoating people crossing a border illegally has some merrit to it as sad as it is. Being paid less than minimum wage, and not paying taxes is not adding to society. It is taking jobs away from law abiding citizens, and no money is being redistributed to the gov't. This is subtracting from society. The president has responsibility to the American citizens, not to those that do not pay taxes or take away from
@ReverseGiraffe, American society. Racial gerrymandering? Gerrymandering happens on both sides of the isle. Look at Detroit and new York to find evidence of hard core gerymanding to discount the red vote. Ironically there is a voting district in Detroit I believe that is made up entirely of Hispanic people to get another district blue. Also the judicial branch of gov't is to decide what is constitutional. The bill was not constitutional because the federal gov't does not have the power to tell states how their voting should be done. Please do not refer to conservatives as cuckservatives it offends me.
@keegathy, THEYRE KIDS THEYRE NOT ILLEGAL FÙCKWAD
@ReverseGiraffe, also by your standard obama should be considered a nazi and a racist because he deported and will have deported more people than trump. How did he achieve deportation? He had to detain them first. O my god... is obama a nazi??? Obviously he is not. But maybe by your definition of nazi he is?
@ReverseGiraffe, guess who started that policy.... wow you guessed it Obama! And who ended such policy? Trump. Funny how these things work.
@ReverseGiraffe, oh and yes they are still ilegal if they do something ilegal. Kids born in this country are responsible for their actions.
@keegathy, the only restrictions of free speech that are going on are those of individuals who are actively harassing and ruining the lives of others (Alex Jones v. the Sandy Hook parents who had to move seven times due to conspiracy nuts stalking them.) and that restriction is by private companies that can do what they want provided they clearly state what actions violates their policies and as long as the information is equally provided to all. There’s no gerrymandering in Detroit or New York because they’re all heavily blue and the R’s are just crying foul because they can’t tip the scales in their favor. I like how you don’t even deny the gerrymandering is happening and just go straight to your “both sides”’bs because you know the GOP is full of corrupt cronies. *Cough cough* Devin Nunes who is supposed to be running an INDEPENDENT Investigation of Trump yet he assured a campaign donor that if the democrats win,all the Trump scandals will be investigated. Hmmm wonder why?
@ReverseGiraffe, but gerrymandering does happen on both sides of the isle. This is a fact. Alex Jones is not reflective of all conservatives. He is an extremist. I have used big political names like Obama and Bernie Sanders because they represent ideas that a lot of democrats hold in common. Using Alex Jones to represent most conservatives is absurd because he does not represent ideas of most conservatives ( I personally hate Alex jones and toataly agree with you that he is insane and is hurting people already affected by tragedy) saying that something does not happen because of is blue is absurd. Detroit and new York are heavily blue partially because of gerymanding. Yes the GOO is fully of corrupt people but so is the Democratic party. You can't deny that.
@keegathy, “I will not let you down” - your Republican President Donald Trump to Alex Jones 2015 . Seems like he’s pretty darn main steam conservative since YOUR party leader gave him so much praise. Also the treatment of John McCain both in life and death by Trump and his supporters made me ashamed to call them Americans. The mockery of a tortured War hero and the greatest advocate of Verterans’ rights in Congress is an absolute disgrace and should be the moment you all disavow him as the face of your party. That and the gold star family incident will life in infamy and why any soldier would got R is beyond me. BUT HEY FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE KNEELIG THATS SO UNPATRIOTIC!
@ReverseGiraffe, i have said it before i don't like trump or Alex Jones. These people perpetuate a myth that this is how all conservatives act. I don't think that is what you are trying to say though. Trump is a business man not a politition. That is why he can be seen as so relatable to so many Americans. I can honestly say I would rather have had ted Cruz or ben Carson because i liked their policies. I will admit that having trump as president makes it hard to be a level headed conservative because he is so different from most conservative ideals. But at the same time he has done some good things like moving the embassy to Jerusalem (which the past 4 presidents said they where gonna do) or sitting down with north Korea and at the least trying to relieve tensions (kick started by the Obama administration). Why would a soldier go R? I think that is what you tried to ask. A lot of soldiers are red because they want less gov't and don't think it's fair that when they come home from war
@ReverseGiraffe, people on welfair who have no jobs and many times not looking for one are treated better than a veteran. Sure they have a lot of benefits that comes from being a soldier but what good are those benifts when they become homeless. Because they have ptsd or simply can't afford housing. Oh and the NFL kneeling thing. Taking a knee is a sign of respect in the military. It is a sign of reverence. In football many people take a knee when a player is injured. It is a sign of respect. The problem is not with the kneeling it is that the message is not clear. The NFL says that they are taking a knee, but they do not say why. But also many people have died for their right to take that knee. The least they can do is show respect for that(which in most cases they care). By the way I really appreciate you talking out and pointing out our differences and injustices in our country, and having a willingness to talk about it. Rather than screaming at each other.
@ReverseGiraffe, alex jones is a extreme right wing est.(the best way i could put it. Do you really think that most normal conservatives hold Alex Jones as their standard. A better example of conservatives would be John McCain
@keegathy, THEYRE THE FACE OF YOUR PARTY! ALL OF TRUMP AND ALEX JONES’ DREAMS ARE BECOMING A REALITY AND THE BEDROCK OF YOUR Party’s policies!!!!Ted Cruz is a spineless wimp just like you because you’re all marching lockstep with the extremists instead of driving them out because ~33% of the country will support Trump no matter what because he attacks minorities any indirect way he can! If you can’t give me proof that any of that is false then I have nothing more to say to you. If any commies showed up in the democratic factions I’d mock and deride them with the same ferocity I decry Trump! Your party DOESNT DO THAT BECAUSE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS POWER AND MONEY AND TRUMP BRINGS THAT. But at a huge potential political cost. See you in November I’ll be voting up in Summit county after I’m done campaigning for retired teacher and Peace Corps Officer Garrett to crush that complicit “future house speaker Lmao” Jim Jordan who couldn’t care less about creepy, molesting wrestling doctors.
@keegathy, yeah I know! as previously stated I have a ton of respect for John McCain. But he’s dead and none of the Republican’s are denouncing Trump or his base for trashing McCain constantly which is the ultimate dick move. The current Republican Party hates your RHINO group with a passion so good luck. Let me know when you can’t stand by and say “this is fine” any longer
@ReverseGiraffe, just when i thought that we were getting somewhere. I was trying to be respectful understanding and trying to find common ground between us. But here you are screaming at me. Calling me a spineless whimp for having a differing opionion. Huh I thought the left was the diverse party and accepting party, but only in physicality, not in mentality. I see that no matter how i defend my position and challenge yours you scream back with insults rather than anything productive. Have a good rest of your day i have seen I am just waiting my time.
@keegathy, I’m not calling you a spineless wimp for having a different opinion! You guys refuse to denounce trump and his bases’ actions despite the widespread corruption and lies and the insulting of John McCain, your supposed idol! Mitch and Paul Ryan just sit down and shut up or do everything they can to help him.
@ReverseGiraffe, this squealing kid 😂
@ReverseGiraffe, congrats. You wrote a novel in the comments and changed zero minds. I like your enthusiasm though. Come find me after your eventual red-pilling
@Pool boy till I die, is the red pilling before or after Net Neutrality dies thanks to California’s (and soon NY’s) legislation?
@ReverseGiraffe, Thus is the internet. Even on Funny Pics I suppose. You made a lot of good points (could have worded/positioned yourself better) but it just came down to individual ideals and beliefs. You're right that Trump is attempting to turn the country more and more facist, but nobody sees that. You literally just need to look at what makes a country facist to see we're heading there. Trump has done some good but none of it is on a scale befitting the leader of the United States of America. What do I know though, I think Democratic Socialism would work far better than American Capitalism....
@ReverseGiraffe, please stay out of summit county. By the way if you arent a resident of my county, you cant vote. Also we require ID to cast a ballot. You must provide proof of both citizenship and residency for at least 6 months to vote here. Strangely enough the majority POC population doesnt seem to care about those rules much. Almost like they dont matter if youre only casting one vote and not doing so illegally.
@Devils Conscious, facist for who? Berkeley is actively seeking to terminate free speech and restrict protests and demonstrations as well as speaking engagements to only approved talking points or outright banning even mildly conservative views. Libertarians like myself who feel like you should be left alone and not taxed, per the constitution, are being treated and labeled as though we are racist. Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi have called for counter protest to religious groups exercising their rights because it doesnt mesh with their political stance (abortion) antifa is applauded by the left for making IEDS and hurling them towards conservatives and police simply for being somewhere that racists turned up and shìt all over peaceful not garbage demonstrations.
The rights of average Americans have been stripped away little by little in order to make people like giraffe happy, but the right are the fascists? Ok. I dont approve of everything Trump has done
@Devils Conscious, but on some, SOME, select things i am more than pleased.
Giraffe, to point out something here... what exactly has Trump actually done to CITIZENS of this country? Trans can still use whatever damned bathrooms they want. POC still arent all incarcerated any more than they were before. ACA was a fůckin travesty from day 1, so the skinny repeal is helping (my health premiums went down this year, first time since ACA passed) plus the number of uninsured stayed the same it was just different people that lost insurance, LGBT isnt illegal, abortion is not an O.K. thing (fathers are left with no choice on something that is 50% theirs), after Parkland Trump actually floated the idea of stripping all gun owners of their firearms until they could prove they wouldnt Vegas a place up (due process thankfully is a thing), so it literally comes down to you just wearing the sick face because he breathes.
He hasnt sexually assaulted ANYONE, no one has come forward. No one.
@ReverseGiraffe, so tell me what he has done to AMERICANS that is so fascist?
Limiting the government, cutting taxes (that will most certainly benefit the middle class more than upper, a couple hundred a check is a big difference to me, not so much to someone living in a mansion) upholding written laws from before his term, twitter wars, renegotiating trade deals that DIRECTLY led to the mass migration of living wage jobs (NAFTA), pulling out of detrimental trade deals (Paris Accords, TPP) so America isnt at an economic disadvantage while other countries have the upper hand...
Oh yeah, increasing federal funding for Historically Black Colleges, slamming Harvard for excluding people of color from admissions, and generally employing policies that benefit inner city residents (i.e. black folk) for better jobs. All of that doesnt count as being fascist, even if you try to spin it.
The Russian Collusion thing still has no solid evidence, and may point to Hillary instead... oops.
@ReverseGiraffe, so what is it that Trump has done?
Aside from pissing off the establishment and being the target of a concentrated smear campaign from the second he started gaining momentum?
Fox News may still be swinging from his sack, but every other major news source is OWNED by the same handful of people who donated money to everyone on the trail, except Trump. The media conglomerates always donate left, and sometimes right too, but always left. They open every statement with bias. I have first hand seen those outlets flat out knowingly lie to the people for political points. Seven degrees of separation from a second hand source is reported as news with no follow up or verification. Othertimes CNN gets caught in a lie, called on it in national press, by national press, and they still act like it was true all along.
Important information gets buried regularly. Yet people like you eat it up as truth, unbiased, everytime.
Your thought has been molded by these propagandist
@ReverseGiraffe, if you are an accurate representation the opposition to trump, our nation is doomed
@ReverseGiraffe, manipulators so badly, you think that any Trump supporter is stupid, redneck, racist, sexist, and poor hating. You beckoned me to obtain education, you pegged me as a farmer out in the fields, you thought i was a southerner, and you feel intellectually superior to me because you THINK socialism is better and youve been told that over and over. Youve been told that the educated voted against Trump. Im sorry to say that the data just doesnt match up.
Where do most highly successful and educated people live? Suburbs and rural areas. Not cities. Who voted for trump? Not cities.
I'm a middle class conservative bent libertarian, I am educated and i live in the city because of my daughter's condition (which doesnt matter about preexisting or not, it got treated), I care about people, and i am black. Every single one of your notions of me were incorrect. All of them.
You, and people like you got Trump voted in once, and youll do it again.
@cruss4612, this is honestly disgusting, you have managed to suck up every false accomplishment of trump and blow them even farther out of proportion than trump. Have fun watching your tax cut disappear in 4 years and watching the trump camp march into jail one by one, half his administration is already seeking immunity by being an informant for Mueller
@Donald Drumpf, @cruss4612, born and raised in Sagamore Hills, OH. Wouldn’t vote anywhere else. If that’s your county too then see you in Nov. What Donald Trump has done that is truly beyond reprehension is that he has encouraged people to incite violence or vigilantism against journalists and immigrants (undocumented or not) none of them can get any employment (unless the company is breaking the law) anyways unless they’re an international student or have a work visa (ccI know I’m dating one and she’s been pulled over by the police for “random searches” 5 times since Trump was elected president when she wasn’t violating a single traffic law any of the times because her skin is one shade slightly darker than white. My pasty ass has never been pulled over and I never even knew the police could pull you over without probable cause. Maybe instead of imprisoning kids the administration should work to crack down on the rampant white collar crime and corruption.
@cruss4612, @donald drumpf, FOR FÙCKS SAKE TRUMP HIRED LOADS OF MIGRANT WORKERS FOR HIS HOTEL CHAINS AND NO ONE BATTED AN EYE. Go after the Corporations that know it’s illegal and don’t care instead of Juan Pablo who is trying to feed his family no matter what. But nah let’s keep letting the law only apply to poor people since they’re the ones that can’t donate to campaigns. Only vote. Also nice dog whistle racism being backed by anecdotal evidence about POC’s not voting correctly. I’m sure you took a very accurate, unbiased study on that one.
@cruss4612, Donald Drumpf if the Russia Collusion is a nothingburger like you all keep saying why has none of the Steele Dossier been officially discredited, why was Paul Manafort in the pocket of the pro-Russian Ukrainian party and in monumental debt yet he worked for the Trump Campaign pro-bono? And most importantly why is Trump afraid to interview with Mueller and clear the air? Afraid he’s going to lie? It’s so sad that we only got to have Hillary Clinton under oath for 8 hours and she didn’t lie once. Maybe if we have another Benghazi investigation we’ll finally catch her! But OH CANT LET THE PRESIDENT SIT DOWN FOR 20 MINUTES TO ASK HIM WHY 6 PEOPLE DIRECTLY RELATED TO HIS CAMPAIGN GRIFTED, LIED, AND WERE CHARGES WITH VARIOUS CRIMES.
@ReverseGiraffe, why are voter ID laws racist? Aren't minorities just as capable of buying ID's as white people? Or are you the one that thinks that POC are less capable than whites?
@PVT Leonard Church, oh here we go. You conservatives use that argument yet also make sure to exclude the forms of identification that young people and POC’s use the most (student ID’s, etc.) https://www.brennancenter.org/new-voting-restrictions-america
@PVT Leonard Church, read that article and tell me our right to vote isn’t being slowly taken away
@ReverseGiraffe, okay so 1. You didn't actually answer any of my questions. 2. That article just says that restrictions have been put in place, not what they are, but let's just go with they are all super strict and you now have to use an ID that you got with your birth certificate. 3. Why do you think that it should be easier for non-citizens to vote?
@ReverseGiraffe, also I didn't answer your question. I don't think our right to vote is slowly being taken away, I live in Illinois (one of the states with stricter laws now than before according to that article) and have had no extra problems voting since those restrictions were put in place
@PVT Leonard Church, an ID you receive with your birth certificate (ie an SSN card with a photo ID card updated every 5 years would be a perfect and acceptable form of Voter ID I don’t disagree with you. But a judge himself ruled that the North Carolina restrictions were extremely undemocratic (the values not the party) “Today, a federal court struck down North Carolina's voter-ID law, one of the strictest in the nation. In addition to requiring residents to show identification before they can cast a ballot, the law also eliminated same-day voter registration, eliminated seven days of early voting and put an end to out-of-precinct voting. The federal court ruling reinstates these provisions, for now.” republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/
@ReverseGiraffe, so ALL THOSE OTHER RESTRICTIONS BESIDES VOTER ID were also put in place by NC conservatives with the implied purpose of disenfranchising voters who would be more likely to vote Democrat. They’re not stupid they know damn well what they’re doing and you can plead ignorance all you want but results are results and if they can keep just a few people from voting in certain battleground areas they can tip the scales in their favor
@ReverseGiraffe, look all I'm saying is that voter ID laws (you have to show an ID to be able to vote) aren't racist and on their own, with no additional regulations, aren't even unreasonable. I have to prove that I am who I say I am in order to purchase a car, a transaction that if it goes poorly affects only me, the dealership, and whoever provided my loan, so why wouldn't I be required to do the same to participate in something that can affect literally the entire country?
@ReverseGiraffe, student IDs arent state issued. Drivers license or State ID is required to enter school in the first place, so why cant they use the proper ID? Again, not racist and serves a purpose.
@ReverseGiraffe, Did you discount my experience as a black man? Am I an uncle Tom? Thats what you want to say isnt it? YOU ARE the racist, sir. Like so many of your line of thinking, anyone who doesnt toe the line of your leftist group think is racist and a monster. You use form letter arguments that are devoid of substance except one about Trump not testifying. Hillary lied her àss off in multiple investigations and was even called out on it.
I dont care about the detention camps, they are here illegally. They are prisoners. Obama enacted the child separation, not Trump. I dont care if everyone but Mattis, Kelly, and Trump go down for something. If no evidence of Trump wrongdoing exists, he didnt do anything wrong. Until they prove otherwise youre just screaming at the moon. But im wrong because i dont fit your stereotypical, sagamore hills interpretation of a black man so fůck me im wrong right?
@cruss4612, Obama did NOT enact the child separation unless they were charged with a separate crime besides drug smuggling or human trafficking, not just illegal entry. They’re not criminals and if you were born in any other nation you’d probably dream of coming to America too. We just got lucky that our ancestors came here before they closed the door.
@ReverseGiraffe, no he definitely did. Otherwise it couldnt be done legally. So yes, Obama did. Just because he enforced his own policy different doesnt mean he didnt sign off on the order.
@ReverseGiraffe, don’t try to call me racist when your party is the one that threw a hissy fit in Charlottesville and killed a woman with a car because statues dedicated to slave owners were being torn down. Those statues were a misrepresentation of history because the losing side shouldn’t get statues, we were just too nice. Which 360’s back to my original point that the south is still full of bitter, resentful racists that hate the idea of African Americans being treated as equally as them. We’ve come full circle on every issue and you’re still just regurgitating party lines and trying to argue that locking an entire race of people in cages and disenfranchising an entire other race from voting aren’t racist. Also yeah the child separartion WAS ILLEGAL WHEN TRUMP DID IT BECAUSE HE HAD TO FÜCKING STOP IT PER A JUDGES ORDER. Get your damn facts straight
@ReverseGiraffe, i would do it legally. By the way.
If your GF has trouble with the cops, maybe she shouldnt attract attention. I dress like a respectable person, not a member of the hood, i use turn signals and dont speed. I dont drive a busted car. I dont get pulled over and im blacker than night. Perception counts.
@ReverseGiraffe, did you see that conservative gay reporter get attacked by all the conservatives in Portland... oh wait, it’s the fascist Antifa crowd doing all the violence. Cool story that Trump is the one inciting violence!