Not enough. I need about $3.50.
@A Math Dealer, *squints* WAIT...you're not a math dealer! Got dangit Loch Ness monster, I ain't gonna give you no got dang tree fifty!
@A Math Dealer, and that’s when I realized that A Math Dealer was really a 30 ft tall lizard from the Cretaceous era and I said GOD DAMMIT MONSTA!!! I AINT GIVIN YOU NO TREE FIDDY!!!
@A Math Dealer, one for men, one for women, and one for GOD DAMN LOCH NESS MONSTER I AIN'T GI'IN YOU NO TREE FITTY
@TheWhiteWolf, I gave 'im a dollah one time....
@A Math Dealer, best I can do is $2.00
To clarify, the wage gap doesn’t exist, it’s actually the earning gap and since all men combined make more than all women combined by about 33% that’s where the 33 cent wage gap came from. PS I believe in equal rights but not lying to get an advantage
@Name Taken, Everywhere I've heard about studies that show evidence of the wage gap the studies always account for the difference in number of employed women and the jobs they have and probably some other things I'm forgetting. While I can't say nobody has used that difference in total gender earnings as evidence of the wage gap, that isn't the only data and it certainly isn't anything someone with any common sense would use as evidence.
I'm not trying to start an argument about the existence of the wage gap, but the people who argue that it exists base their stance off of actual studies that analyze a large amount of data and account for these things.
@Depressed Panda, mostly the reason people say there is a wage gap is because women choose lower paying careers, like in the arts and more creative jobs that don’t pay as much as the ones that men choose, such as engineering. Sorry for not being specific. I don’t mean to argue.
@Name Taken, this is accurate. In my experience talking with people in high paying jobs, there is no water gap. Men and women make the same or those who have been in position longer make more. There are exceptions of course, but overall, it doesn't seem to exist.
It's the fact that many low paying fields are dominated by women. Hotel maid services and as you mentioned, arts and such.
@RogueKnight, I understand that these patterns exist, but what I'm saying is that the studies people quote account for these differences.
@Depressed Panda, how are you certain of that? Not insulting you or saying you are lying. Just curious. I've read numerous studies on different topics and have seen where they say the took all these factors into account, but there is no way to prove it or they obviously didn't. With how partisan the world is becoming and how willing people are to.manipulate data to get the result they want, I tend to be highly skeptical. Especially when my personal experience (albeit it geographically limited and with limited people asked) says otherwise.
That study may very well be correct, so again, please don't take this reply as an insult or a challenge.
@Name Taken, the wage gap *is* about average earnings. I'm sure there are some who are confused and think women earn less than men for exactly the same job and hours (actually they do.. but it's much closer).
But the wage gap does exist, because average earnings of men are higher than women. Some people see this as a reason to look into why, and how we can help equalise it. Some people don't care.
There are other wage gaps too, e.g. based on race, and parents' income.
@Joseph V Stalin, also, factors such as childcare. Many women take lower paying jobs to help with child rearing (i.e. I'll work nights at an insurance company hotline so I can be there for my kids after school and spend more time with them).
@SchroedingerPussPuss, exactly, and part time jobs or no jobs at all. The unpaid and undervalued childcare and housework is less likely to be done by men.
@Joseph V Stalin, this is exactly my point. Women usually perform the lesser paid jobs and childcare. Most women in a married relationship with children don’t even work at all, so they can care for the child. This makes the average for women’s pay lower, and therefore there is no wage gap, only an earning gap of about 33%.
@Name Taken, I think we have no disagreement, we're just calling it different things! When I and the journal articles I've read talk about the wage gap, we're talking about the gap between average earnings, which both of us agree exists :)
Where we may disagree is in how much we care about closing it. Childcare and housework *is* work, it's just unpaid, and women feel more pressure than men to take more of the unpaid workload. Wives sacrifice their careers far more than husbands do, which you might not see as a problem, but I and others would like to see a shift in values whereby men take on their fair share.
@Joseph V Stalin, the reason more women give up on their careers is to care for children, because they have more matronly instinct than a man. Since more women choose lower paying jobs statistically, the men provide for the family.
@Joseph V Stalin, I think we can agree to disagree here.
@Name Taken, I suppose they're not incompatible: nature and nurture could both play a causal role. But you're right that further discussion is unlikely to be fruitful! :)
Have to admit, it took me awhile to figure out why there was only 77 cents there.
@PsychedelicCow, I still don't get it
@Richard Cypher, it's a sexist joke, women only make 77 cents for each dollar that men make. I'm pretty sure this perception was proven wrong a while ago though.
@PsychedelicCow, ah I gotcha. Yeah it was proven wrong
@Richard Cypher, what was proven wrong? "Women make 77c for every dollar men make" is true - women's total income is less than men's.
"Women make less than men for the same hours working the same job" is (mostly) false. But I've never read a journal article on the wage gap that makes this claim. They talk about average earnings, discuss the reasons why men have higher paying jobs, etc.
Can't relate. Not American. I only accept pressed tea leaves, children of working age for the workhouse and smarmy witticisms as currency.
@Medic135, Jesus, we aren’t even still done with this discussion from the LAST post, now I gotta start all over, haha. In all actuality, regardless of my thoughts on the gender or female pay discrepancy matters, this is pretty funny.
@Berntley, this picture made me laugh, and your views are on the side of reason so you're chill. Come hang out at Arby's with me and liberachi some time
@Medic135, liberachi hasn't tried to unionize the arbys staff yet?
I'd have 2 dollars
Well we'd have at least $2
Is this an optical illusion or do the coin pictures actually get smaller?