There's plenty of correlation, but that's the easy part. The issue is finding any causation, probably because there isn't
@Jakobian, Its one of the greatest problems we face at the moment. In that your totally right data can be easily manipulated to "prove a point" when in reality its far from the truth.
Theres a famous paper where researchers "proved" that chocolate was good for you. What they didnt mention was that the sample size of people used was very small, they also tested on a shjt ton of theories (cholesterol, weight, feeling of energy, etc etc) which combined with such a small sample size was bound to give back atleast one positive result.
This why if your ever reading statistics or are doubtful on things said on media sources, make sure your reading peer reviewed papers. Read what the consensus of those peer reviews say, generally speaking if a lot of scientists agree or reference a paper it has a lot more creditbility. Too often I see people citing some random paper into topics that's clearly come from a political leaning source or is funded by companies with vested interests
@bonja, this is the most accurate post I've read in a very long time.
My observation on the issue for those maybe needing another example..
When there's an ad saying 4 out of 5 dentists/doctors/(any profession) suggest this product, they are not telling you that they maybe asked 100 or more total, and only selected the 4 that approved/agreed + 1 disagree to give you the consumer the appearance of 4 out of 5 approved the product/item.
Unless I'm going crazy, more companies/people are doing this on social media as well.
@bonja, With Covid, I've really been surprised at what people consider valid evidence. So many reference news articles, YouTube videos, posts with colorful backgrounds. Wish everyone understood what peer reviewed meant. Also a "peer review" is by peers within a profession, it doesn't mean a hair stylist disputing data with a physician has an equal opinion on the subject. People have a hard time with that... that their opinion is less in some cases.
@Jakobian, I think this is one of the most dangerous things in scientific reporting. So many things can be related to eachother and be will take that and say "See! It's x because of y" when in reality there are other factors and variables unaccounted for that link them and in reality they have little to do with eachother. Like ice cream sales and drownings
@bonja, my favorite is: when nicholas cage movies are released the economy does well. It's a seasonal graph an economics professor showed us but basically it made such a joke out of correlation that I dont believe people unless the present a reputable study. Not youtube, .org, or .com websites. Something that's been published in modern day from a reputable institution of research otherwise fvck off and go learn some more. Not to say youtube or the other less reputable sources dont have good information or sources but provide the original if you are making a claim.
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, you must love cocobros on here he spammed me with youtube links awhile back saying they proved his point.
@Jakobian, is this 2015????
@jouze, 100%. For anyone who struggles to sift through all this stuff (and, honestly, who doesn’t?), I recommend a book called “Naked Statistics” by Charles Wheelan. It’s a good explanation behind the intuition behind stats, but also explains how one should read data and studies that “prove” things.
@Jakobian, my question is in the regulation of sop that is supposed to be in effect and how much it has dropped over time. Moreso, another question is how much mercury do we inject Into our body with all of these vaccines combined? And is mercury still considered an nonremovable toxin that pools in the brain cavity negatively impacting brain function?
@bonja, exactly, because new York times are never ever reporting wrong content and Forbes would never have any business in video game articles on consumer expectation of what this season of apex or destiny or cod is bringing. Instead of the actual business side of video games. Even though peer review is still inevitably flawed, way better than an article not held or educated to the standards necessary for even a decent outside review for herd improvement.
@celtics313131, have you been streaming ancient aliens my friend?
@bonja, Adam ruins everything covered that. He even had a script of his show published as a study to prove how easy it is.
@Jakobian, the only thing I can think of is that vaccines cause autism SYMPTOMS to manifest since AU patients can have HYPER or HYPO sensitivities to everyday items. Since most low functioning AU patients aren’t diagnosed until around 18-24 months, when MMR is given, of course it would “manifest”- I.e. increased noticeable AU sensory symptoms. Lots of cool research going on. Kid always had autism. Vaccines just heighten sensory reactions
@bonja, the problem is that people REFUSE to read the research. They call it “FAKE NEWS” even if it’s a large sub-pop study, double blind and peer reviewed... because it doesn’t align with their opinion or political belief.
@Blackfrost273, most fish sold contain more, and a worse form of, mercury than a vaccine dose does. Assume an average of 80-85 flu shots in a lifetime, most common thimerosal preserved vac in US, would give you ~1mg of mercury; on the other hand, having 3oz of canned tuna, as tested by the FDA, once a week for 20 years would give you ~12mg of mercury
@SchroedingerPussPuss, the best part is that thimerosal containing MMR vaccines weren't used in the US
As someone who has an autistic brother, this enraged me so much
@megamanx181x, I've been classified as "high functioning" autistic as of last summer/fall.
The only meme/connection I've found is that some of the smartest minds that have helped make vaccines might be classified as autistic nowadays.
So with as much humor as possible.
Autism causes vaccines.
@D4rthbob, and vaccines lead to more people, increasing the amount of autistic people. Wait
@D4rthbob, if vaccines did cause autism, it would be a pretty efficient cycle of; autistic person making vaccine, vaccine making autistic person, repeat.
@Factory BOY, I can recall, in 3 different coding types, how to program a loop.....
And I plan on naming them all Fruit.
I bet there's a stronger correlation between having a Karen mom and autism than anything else found so far.
Although they don't cause autism, vaccines are the only drug that your doctor doesn't have to disclose the side effects of to you. But that's because it's not about letting people make informed decisions about their bodies, it's about forcing as many people to pay for the drug as possible and calling them a bad person if they don't.
Want to know the side effects of the Polio vaccine? No fuc&ing Polio!