I legitimately have panic attacks whenever my face is covered due to childhood abuse, but I’m still respectful enough to stay out of stores that require masks.
@Bobaganusche88, i too cant wear a face covering due to panic attacks so i shop elsewhere.
@Bobaganusche88, I have a friend who also has a anxiety issues but still wears a mask. Thank you from the son of a frontline worker that if you can't wear a mask, you have the common courtesy and common sense to avoid places where you have to. You are what's right with America. Again, thank you.
@Bobaganusche88, I respect the hell out of this, and I’m so sorry other people being stupid is making it last longer
@Bobaganusche88, I hope you're ok
Yeah they are that dramatic. Heard a lady yelling at Target because she couldn’t wear her mask because of a “Medical Condition”. After be told she can’t come in the C*nty Karen pulled a mask from her purse after of course giving the young working kid a hard ass time. All Karen’s are a waste.....except for memes.
@Gerggle, the Karen’s have even went so far to make up a fake card that says they have a medical condition by the ftba which is nonexistent so they don’t have to wear masks
I have to wear one for 9 hours a day at work. Im sure most people can suck it up for 20 minutes.
I have to wear a mask at work for 8.5 hours a day..you'd think that would make it easier to wear one in public, but it doesn't. Because I'm not getting paid, and it just sucks to wear one outside of a work environment
@Jaykub, I wear one at work too. It took some getting used to but now it's like wearing clothes in public--it feels weird not to wear anything while out and about but feels great to come home and take it all off in private.
I had Covid in January. I'm not vulnerable to getting sick again & I'm no longer contagious, but laws dictate that I can't shop without a mask even though I'm not a danger to anyone & I'm not in danger. I wear it anyway cause I want to shop. I put up with it. I look at Ћ bright side that at least I don't have to live in fear of Ћ virus cause I already survived it. I don't even carry aroun hand sanitizer anymore. I used to be very germophobic and never touch anything, but now I'm less afraid then I used to be. Other germs aren't as scary as Covid.
@Chula Charlie, I don’t think it’s been proven yet that you can’t get it twice. I hate to burst your bubble but I don’t want you to let your guard down because you think your safe when you might not be
@TriangleTesticles, understandable, I saw a news article title saying the virus has mutated itself into 30 different varients already. China really screwed us over didn't they. Just imagine what kind of traits it could develop in the future.
This meme would make more sense if Woody was also wearing a mask, glaring down at Buzz like 'Dude, really?'
Hello community, facts are facts. They aren't debatable like opinions. Wear a mask. Thanks.
@Doctor Walrus, the facts are debated actually, but the law is the law and any establishment has the right to refuse someone access to their store or private property if they refuse to follow the rules that place has.
You realize that the anti masker in this gif is woody right? He’s the one not wearing a mask.
The faster people catch this virus the faster us goes away
@MinkeyObama , the faster people stop transmitting this virus the faster it goes away and without anyone else having to get horribly, possibly deathly, ill.
Rona’s made up,
Masks are fake too,
If you accept,
They will next chip you.
Rona is fake,
It’s just the flu,
The commie’s excuse,
To take freedom from you.
Starts with a mask,
Then “vaccines” too,
Next comes a chip,
Dissent is taboo.
@Cave Dweller, “why are you booing, I’m right.”
We need to spread COVID19 and build up herd immunity. Continued lock down and mandatory masks are stupid.
@Hot Coffee, yeah unless you (or someone you care about) gets sick (which possibly could have been avoided) and maybe dies. Wearing a safety belt is something we all do for health reasons. Why is there such drama over wearing a mask?
@Hot Coffee, the antibodies only last for 6 to 8 weeks... Unless the whole world gets infected in that short time frame, which would inundate hospitals and lead to triage, that approach would be ineffective.
@Tsaltydog, memory cells
@Funny Pics Janitor, do you know how many people die from complications related to the flu each year? You realize that the the high end death rate of this virus is around 0.7 percent, right? We don’t do this for the flu every year. We’ve succeeded in flattening the curve. We have the needed capacity to handle respiratory infections at a higher than normal rate.
People need to work. Need to socialize. The fastest way to normal is opening everything back up again. Self isolate if you’re concerned that you’re part of the vulnerable population. Stay away from people you know who are vulnerable. But stop pretending this is some sort of plague. It isn’t.
@Hot Coffee, name the last time over 100,000 people (note how I'm putting less people since you actually believe that COVID-19 deaths are inflated) died from the flu in 4 months? I'll wait...
When is the last time the flu pushed ICU units to near 100% capacity. I'll wait.
When is the last time that the flu hit the entire world at the same time? I'll wait.
Bottom line is what is wrong with this whole scenario is people like you. You want people back to work? So do I. You want people to socialize? So do I. Where we differ is on the point of wearing a mask as a mild inconvenience vs. throwing a fit about it or disseminating misinformation as fact.
Here are just a few reminders of how this is affecting the economy.
Sick people cannot work. Therefore the economy suffers.
Hospitalized people can't work. Therefore the economy suffers.
Hospitals who have to treat said patients, some cannot pay their medical bills, leaving the rest of the public to pick up the tab.
@Hot Coffee, (Cont.) Therefore the economy suffers.
Dead people can't work. Therefore the economy suffers.
Do I really need to present more sobering facts for you to understand? Probably not because outlets like Fox News have you so brainwashed that you'll perceive facts that you don't agree with as "lies" or "exaggerations" or "fake media". No point in continuing this conversation because I know from experience that people like yourself simply won't listen.
@Funny Pics Janitor, I applaud you, good sir!
@Funny Pics Janitor, you sound brainwashed. Did I say the lockdown was wrong? Did I say we should have stayed open? Did I say we where prepared for any of this when it started?
No. I did not.
What did I say? I said we’ve flattened the curve.
We’ve figured out the behavior of this disease and we understand who is at risk (old people and folks with underlying respiratory conditions) and what needs to be done for high risk populations.
As far as flu deaths, the fluctuate between 20,000 and 70,000 from year to year. That’s with herd immunity. Imagine how bad it would be without hers immunity! Oh wait. That’s what we have right now with COVID19.
Think for yourself.
@Hot Coffee, We did flatten the curve... but have you looked lately? We've surpassed the cases per day before it was as widespread as it is now because people have thrown caution to the wind.
As a medical professional I can tell you that we still don't understand all the issues with this disease. Yes, it mostly kills older individuals but it also singles out young, otherwise healthy people to cause their immune system to go out of control causing sometimes irreversible lung damage or heart damage. We have found a few treatments for supportive care like dexamethasone and plasmapheresis that help. You may be willing to accept that wager for yourself but i have a wife and 3 kids that must also roll that dice.
Stop looking at flu deaths as a number and look at a percentage based on infected. Mortality is roughly 0.1% in typical years. In TN covid-19 mortality is 1.5% (4% for the US).
@Dangerous Dan Spivey,
I get it... there's a narrative that mortality inflated by 25% due to hospital reimbursement but covid-19 would still be 11x as deadly as seasonal flu.
we understand the flu, it has a shorter incubation and lower infectivity. It isn't as likely to cause cytokine storm.
With flu herd immunity comes mostly with vaccination. With covid-19 it comes with actually getting the virus.
ICUs in some Texas cities are at 100% capacity now. Just because we flattened the curve once doesn't mean it'll stay flat forever and life can go back to normal just yet. We will get there though, but we have to work together and follow recommendations of the experts (not listen to the political talking heads- Hannity, Crowder,Carlson; or the scare tactics of CNN)to get there. The longer you hold off getting it, the more data is generated on how best to treat.
@Hot Coffee, do you live outside the US? Because we started to flatten the curve then stopped when we reopened and even though we’ve “figured out” some of the behavior of the virus our numbers are rising like crazy again. And people can catch this more than once, herd immunity isn’t a sound option for ending it. If people could just stop transmitting it for a month or so, the numbers would drop low enough to end the pandemic.
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, the numbers I’ve seen put it at 0.7%, I haven’t seen numbers as high as you’re quoting since late February.
@HolyCatchphrase, it’s not going to end. This will be persistent, just like the flu.
@Hot Coffee, I've never seen numbers as low as you describe. If you do the math now of deaths/cases, please note that we've had a dramatic increase of cases (from about 300 per day to 1500-2000) in TN for the last week and those people haven't had time to die as it typically takes 20 days from symptom onset to die. I am using the TN.gov site and the Johns Hopkins dashboard for the US. Would be interested in your sources too.
@Funny Pics Janitor, wait faster!
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, I’ve taken my information from the CDC.
The problem with the numbers you’re looking at is it’s based on confirmed positive tests. They’re only testing people who have symptoms that require admission to the hospital.
Let me break it down with an example that’s personal to me. My mother-in-law was in the hospital following back surgery in March. She spiked a mild fever and got a COVID19 test. They discharged her despite the positive test and my wife spiked a fever about 6 days after picking her mother up from the hospital. My wife tried to get tested but was denied because she wasn’t sick enough to be hospitalized. The doctor told her she had COVID19 and she had to quarantine for 10 days after her symptoms cleared. But they never tested her. She asked if she would be counted as a new case but was told she wouldn’t be because they didn’t test her. That pissed her off because she had to quarantine anyway.
Confirmed cases doesn’t represent actual cases.(Continues)
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, actual cases are estimated to be 10 to 15 times confirmed cases. That’s according to the CDC.
@Hot Coffee, I see how you arrived at that conclusion. That was true in March while tests were being rationed, but in the state of TN alone, there's tens of thousands (24,000 yesterday) of tests in a day.
If you're not ill enough to be in the hospital, they won't admit you. They'll only admit you once you have issues with oxygenation or other severe symptom.
Confirmed cases are likely more accurate now since testing is more available and in some cases free. Where I work offers them for free.
I went to the CDC website ( https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html) and calculated 4.7% mortality. Again this hasn't allowed the 40,000 new daily cases enough time to get to their endpoint of either cured or dead.
@Hot Coffee, CDC offers this disclaimer but I don't see the "10-15 times" number you reference.
"Accuracy of Data
CDC does not know the exact number of COVID-19 illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths for a variety of reasons. COVID-19 can cause mild illness, symptoms might not appear immediately, there are delays in reporting and testing, not everyone who is infected gets tested or seeks medical care, and there may be differences in how jurisdictions confirm numbers."
Since we don't know how many aren't sick enough to be tested, how are we supposed to know the impact of that? It's like saying that deaths are falsely inflated due to hospital reimbursement... just because it happens doesn't mean we discard the data we do have.
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, basically, what you’re saying is the only people who have COVID19 are those who tested positive, but we know they’re mainly testing people sick enough to get hospitalized*.
So basically what the numbers you are quoting are the death rates of people sick enough to be considered for hospitalization. In such a setting a death rate of 4% to 5% isn’t very bad. That indicates a recovery rate of 95% of people that are eligible for hospitalization. I think that actually bolsters my position.
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, sorry was going too fast and saw that it’s possible that not everyone in your state who is tested gets admitted, though that’s still ambiguous phrasing. Until the test everyone we won’t be able to have the total number of infections. But the test is too expensive to test everyone, so that’s why the CDC has left it’s estimated number of infections page up.
Let me emphasize this!
The CDC still believes in it’s estimated death rate.
This is what the CDC does, they’re very good at it. If they had reason to believe the infection rate was different from their estimates they’d pull the information from the website and post the new estimates.
@Hot Coffee, all you stupid babies who down vote this post 😂
@Nautilus , they’re well intentioned, but the finer points of disease epidemiology they have not yet grasped.
I would up vote but they shouldn’t be called names. Thanks for the support, though.
Seriously masks suck and the don't help..