Fun fact: people who owned the sweater are selling them for over 8 times their cost, since H&M are no longer selling them.
Not so fun fact: H&M is pulling out of South Africa, meaning many will be unemployed in a 3rd world country.
@Sambob, South Africa isn’t third world, dude...
@Kalam1ty, I hate people see Africa and assume “third world” many of the countries there are totally modern “regular” countries.
@Kalam1ty, Many consider it to be, but it closer to 2nd in my opinion.
@thejamesshow00, @kalam1ty, South Africa is a third world country. Third second and first world countries have nothing to do with economic prosperity or world power etc. They are defined by a country’s position in the Cold War. Allied country (western European countries, US, Canada etc) are first world. Communist countries in the Cold War are second world & neutral countries are third world. It’s developed a negative connotation but it doesn’t mean what you think it means. This is from Wikipedia “They are in a “third” group of nations because they were allied neither with the United States nor with the former Soviet Union.”
@BearDaniels, the more you know 🌈 ⭐️
@thejamesshow00, if it's not America, it's a 3rd world
@BearDaniels, that's propably true but by that logic Switzerland, Finland and Sweden would be third world countries which feels kinda wrong
@BearDaniels, Sir, you are the coolest monkey in the jungle. Just saying. 🐒🐵
@BearDaniels, thank you for saying that I get so tired of people just assuming countries are third world just because they are poor.
@BearDaniels, you taught me more in like one paragraph than I learned in 4 years of college and 3 years of grad school.
I have 2 questions.
1. Where were these stores located that ran the ad?
2. Where is the marketing department for H&M stores located?
@PyroCMXXVI, I only know the answer to the first and it was in the online store and it wasn't an ad. Just one of those pictures in the online store of some kid wearing the top.
@PyroCMXXVI, so I did some research and I'm answering my own questions.
1. The stores were located in South Africa.
2. The main office for H&M that houses marketing is in Stockholm, Sweden.
So, if I were to take a wild guess at what happened, I would say a bunch of whiter than Christmas Sweeds came up with a harmless children's shirt that referred to children as monkeys (as my parents often did). They then sent the shirt out to be sold in a place where the population is 75% Black African so naturally they had a Black African BOY model the shirt (young boys being the target demographic for the shirt). People assumed racism where none was intended, trashed a bunch of stores and put dozens of locals out of a job while the company loses money not because of the stores but because of all the diversity, sensitivity, recompensery bull cr@p that they are going to have to pay out the nose for in an attempt to make people feel better and forgive them for an honest mistake.
@PyroCMXXVI, you are correct. People assumed racism where there was none. Even the boys mother thinks they are acting in an absurd manner and actually said that the people offended need to get over them selves.
@PyroCMXXVI, you are a decent human being. Rare indeed.
@A Monty, thank you. I really appreciate you saying that.
@PyroCMXXVI, On top of that the people that trashed the store were either with or supported by the EFF, a political group in South Africa who’ll come up with basically any possible excuse to attack people and places.
@PyroCMXXVI, so... (thank you for looking everything up) what you're saying is this is just a situation where someone back in Sweden is saying "PHRASING!!"
@PyroCMXXVI, furthermore, the mother of the boy featured in the ad has spoken out publicly and essentially said “get over it, it’s not a racist shirt.” They are Swedes who happen to be black, and the boy has modeled hundreds of shirts for H&M.
Lol. Ya! Destroy shıt. That will show them who we are.
Keep setting yourselves back, Black people. Notorious for it.
The thing that bothers me about this is the fact that all they are doing is taking it out on the employees. Corporate isnt gonna come down and help clean that and neither are the people who are responsible for the reason they are upset. Instead the people working at the store, who almost positively have nothing to do with it, now have to clean that up.
Guess they aren't the coolest monkeys in the jungle
Looks like they went Ape Shït on that store.
This actually happened because of that sweater or is that a result of Black Friday?
@megamanx181x, the sweater
@megamanx181x, Black Friday. I mean look at them *bu dum tss*
@megamanx181x, this happened on a Saturday...so your kinda half right...
Ok, like really what did you expect? First off whose brilliant ideas was it? And secondly we trample people to death to save $20 at Walmart every Black Friday, so mobbing a store is not really as bad as it could be.
@Dr Who Fandom, I hope to the Lord in heaven you aren’t excusing their behavior for ransacking the store...
@Chief Poundserhard, no just saying did you not expect this
@Dr Who Fandom, the way I look at it, yes they shirt designer should have taken this into mind, but if our goal is to move past racism then maybe we shouldn't make a big deal about this. By continuously bringing up the issue instead of moving past it you only feed the fire and prove that we're no better than we were about 100 years ago. Although I will say I am of Asian decent not African so the racism I've experienced isn't nearly as prevalent.
@generic zombie, the shirt designer didn't put it on a black kid though. That person literally just made a shirt using a common term of endearment for children. The only people who did anything wrong are the people overreacting to a black kid modelling the shirt.
@Dr Who Fandom, what I expect from people wanting absolute racial equality is to have a diplomatic conversation about why the picture was unacceptable. It helps no one’s cause by going in and destroying the retail store. The associates working at that store had no say in the decision to post the model with the sweatshirt, but they’re the ones getting dumped on because of corporate’s decision. If people were offended enough to be called to action, writing letters to the CEO would be much better than destroying the store. There are a million different and better ways this whole thing could’ve been handled - ransacking a store is not one of them.
@Dr Who Fandom, we shouldn't expect it, it's pathetic
@Dr Who Fandom, you’re literally too dumb to insult.
So this is a really great read on riots: http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23960/james-baldwin-cool-it/
I’ll be honest... for a second I thought at first that it was a reference to Uganda Knuckles, and then I read the rest of it