I agree about the musicians, but it’s a mistake to conflate educational expenditure with pupil intelligence.
You’d think it’d make sense, but it doesn’t correlate well.
Nutrition and exercise correlate with intelligence better...
Too bad people care more for distractions
An actor who is paid an insane amount for even the smallest appearance griping about other people being paid too much... cool
In his defense, he did not yet know that Sheev was short for Senate
I’ve always hated how people say stuff like this, or things like, “we should stop paying these athletes so much and start paying our teachers more.” We all know that teachers should make more money. How about you come up with a solution instead of just randomly saying something to try to get people to like you. It’s the equivalent of when Beaty queens say that we should have World Peace
Or we could just privatize education and allow competition in the market to increase standards in education... You know, rather than throwing other peoples' money at the problem like we've done for decades?
@Doctor Krieger, but then wouldn't that mean paying for school even for k-12? Then we will just have a bunch of dumb poor people running about.
@Doctor Krieger, the average college tuition of "several thousand dollars of debt" kind of puts a hole in that theory. But besides, education is already partly privatized. You can pay a bunch of money to send your kid to a private school, where education quality is likely leagues higher, or you can send them to public school for an average education at a comparatively small tax rate.
Let's say that, starting tomorrow, all education became private education. What about the single mother of three who already works four jobs to support her family? Does she now have to pay more for a private school? And hell, let's say that in a theoretical situation, capitalism does its thing in a competitive market, and now some schools are as cheap as the taxes for public schools. What's the quality of education like? Probably about the same as public schools, considering the abysmal amount of money teachers make. What's to prevent the quality from dropping even lower? Is there [cont.]
@Rtas Vadum, is there an oversight committee? State or local government institution? What prevents people from lowering the bar to "you can do 2+2, here's a high school diploma"?
Sure, the argument is that they wouldn't stay in business long, but before that happens you'd get a fair few people slipping through the cracks there. So where's the guarantee of competency?
This all boils back to the same point: if you then set up a system to manage oversight and qualifications for diplomas, then what's the point in making it a private system when it functions exactly how public systems did, except now private owners can change their curriculum to be more blatantly biased?
@Doctor Krieger, well I wanted to write a long winded shutdown, but it seems like someone already beat me to it.
Does my heart good.
@Rtas Vadum, nice job and terrific arguments
@Rtas Vadum, you do understand that the whole problem of college becoming so expensive started because of government based financial aid right?
@Doctor Krieger, a couple of decades ago, there was competition between states to have the best schools. Each state did their own thing. Better schools resulted in people moving to that state, thus increasing the tax revenue. Other states would go to those that were doing well, take ideas, and work on their own system. Those that were an improvement became the base for all the other states, so on and so on. They the federal government got in the way. All of the standardized crap ended up ruining that system without any real improvement to literacy and graduation rates. Now, graduation rates are higher in part because they found loopholes to get more kids a diploma, but the actual education level was still poor.
@Doctor Krieger, except for the fact that athletes are paid millions of dollars to simply play a game a fvcking game a game that most watching could just as easily play themselves so give them a 10% pay cut and send that money to something that actually matters
@Doctor Krieger, when you privatize a field, the highest priority becomes profits. We can plainly see how hellish privately owned prisons can be. Privatized schools have tendencies to maintain harmful practices because they result in higher profit margins.
@eleven, i get the argument, but that money isn’t coming from no where. The companies who own the teams or whatever made that money, a %10 cut to put it into something that matters means taking money that they made. I hate the amount they get paid too, but stalin like socialism aint gonna work lol
@eleven, I am not a sports fan. I find the concept of chasing a ball around infantile and boring. But to conflate something like professional basketball to “a game that anyone can play” is ignorant. Go watch an NBA game up close. What those men do is a feat of athleticism. You can’t do what they do and if you really tried, you’d hurt yourself.
The reason why professional sports players and actors and musicians are paid such a radically larger amount of money than people doing objectively more important work is because these entertainers generate the income. People collectively pay billions of dollars towards the NBA, whether it’s ticket sales, viewership, merchandise, or sponsorships. People sponsor the NBA because when they advertise their products through the medium of sports, the sales go up.
No matter how good of a teacher you are, nobody is paying to watch you teach. (Not unless you’re somebody like Jordan Peterson)
@liberachi , *sees comment by doctor krieger* liberaaaa... oh.. yeah this'll do.
@eleven, also, one thing to note. “give them a 10% pay cut and send that money to something that actually matters”
What you’re advocating for there is theft. Plain and simple. You don’t get to take money from people just because you have contempt for how they earned it.
@Doctor Krieger, this has already been done in a form. Its called gentrification. A form of class/race warfare.
@I Are Lebo, good comment, things for the common wellbeing should never be privatizes, and vice versa.
@Doctor Krieger, your ignorance of this issue is amazing. None of the top countries in education have a completely privatized approach.
@Implicit88, we see this pattern repeat. Privatized healthcare leads to people going bankrupt from getting sick or having to choose which finger to get reattached. Privatized education leads to religious community schools teaching nonsense like Creationism or abstinence-only sex ed. Privatized prisons lead to mandatory minimums and is part of why America has the highest prison population and percentage in the world.
Making something privately owned means making its operations out of the public purview. When that thing is responsible for the future development of our own people, that’s something we need to have a part in managing, or we’re going to screw over our kids generation.
@I Are Lebo, agreed. Dont forget dare program.
@Implicit88, ah, yes. Dare. Adam Driver’s campaign to get rid of episode six from the official Star Wars movies. Driver Against Retarded Ewoks. 🧐
@I Are Lebo, 😂
Maybe if you hadn’t badly cropped this, I’d like it more.
Because thats how the entertainment industry works