Is it possible that the Oscars are just a feel good circle jerk for dumb celebrities?
@M0RT0S, I can't confirm anything, but I hear one of the judges just let's his housekeeper pick the winners.
@SimonPetrikov, ah then its a lazy circle jerk if that's true. I don't think I'll ever understand what truly goes on in the minds of celebs.
@M0RT0S, well if it tells you anything, the only films and people that even get picked as nominees most of the time are ones that originate from Hollywood. That's why "best animated film" is usually a toss up between Disney, pixar, and some garbage you've never heard of, and why anime films never even enter the conversation, regardless of how good and well animated films like Your Name are.
@M0RT0S, I used that exact phrase to describe the oscars a few days ago
@M0RT0S, theres a good Adam runs everything for these
@BIessthefaII, I have no interest in that show because it does the exact thing I'm complaining about in multiple instances. More sjw pandering junk.
@M0RT0S, I find it interesting because it points out things like I mentioned and cites articles to back up their claims. As a grad student who has to read research anyway, I can appreciate it
@BIessthefaII, Like I said I have no interest, but I'm glad to hear you enjoy it.
@M0RT0S, I don’t even care about the Oscars. Truthfully, I never really did. It always plays out the same way: Disney or Pixar will win Best Animated Feature, Pixar will win Best Short Film, Disney will at least be nominated for Best Song, and Best Picture will go to one of the guilt movies. (Whether that be white guilt, male guilt, heterosexual guilt, non-physically disabled guilt, etc.)
@SimonPetrikov, while he’s giving her a love child
@M0RT0S, i always want to ask these people okay whos your nomination to watch them stumble over their own words because they dont know any woman who deserve them they just know a woman does.
How dare you use logic!
Or....the studio didn’t spend enough money on courting the judges. That’s what wins oscars not talent.
“All of the people awarded for their outstanding achievement are representative of the population in general! Discrimination! I demand merit based award ceremonies give prizes equitably!”
No men nominated for Best Actress. No men noninates for Best Supporting Actress. #doublestandards
Watch Adam Ruins Award shows on YouTube. You won't put as much emphasis or importance on the Oscars.
The participation medal recipients are all grown up.
I think it was the year before Oscars so white that the truly mediocre 12 Years a Slave won best picture.
I laughed so hard that almost fell off the toilet.
Handy dandy Automatic stamp of online douchbaggary:
do they have a picture of any Greek statue as their profile pic?
VOILA! Instance douche!
@liberachi , at least his name is accurate
@liberachi , That, or an obscure anime girl.
@liberachi , handy dandy manufactured outrage over lack of diversity in Hollywood? Instadouche
@The Lumbridge Cook, @ me next ti-oh.
@The Lumbridge Cook, the lumbrige cook is my favorite anime girl.
@liberachi , is this the new version of having an anime profile pic?
@big freedom, I agree, if I don’t understand it then it must be fake. My feelings don’t care about their facts.
@liberachi , or possibly, and hear me out on this... Hollywood and movies don’t actually matter. They have no impact on your life. And if they do and you get upset about what they’re not doing, that’s all on you. Nobody else has the responsibility of making you happy or mad.
Offense is taken, not given.
@big freedom, I agree, media doesn’t matter. When has a piece of media like a video game, movie, tv show, etc ever impacted a society, group, or individual in any way. Ever.
@liberachi , yes those are all equal to a stupid fûcking award show for a tiny fraction of art produced on film. Nice straw man! you’ve completely opened my eyes to your point of view.
@big freedom, I think you mean culturally significant art show widely understood to be an evaluation of the value of certain arts and artists within the medium, meant specifically to assert the culture worth of the creations and creators it evaluates.
But yeah that does sound stupid and not societally or culturally significant in the slightest. Why didn’t transformers 5 win best picture amirite, bro?
@liberachi , nope. That’s not what I meant at all. Oscars are self indulgent circle jerk of self satisfied, pompous, àssholes preaching to the rest of us how we should live, while simultaneously being even rapier than the Catholic Church.
@liberachi , not to mention, “judging” art is stupid and pointless.
@liberachi , okay, I'm really starting to think people are just downvoting you for the popular view of you now. I mean, I don't necessarily think your comment was great, but it wasn't "10 downvotes bad." Upvote for balance.
@big freedom, I agree with the rapey part for real, what whats even more super true is how having an awards show is the same as dictating what art you can and cannot consume
@liberachi , I agree. I totally said that an award show dictates what you can or cannot watch. That was my main premise in fact when I said that getting upset at an award show is douchey. You nailed it, and in no way constructed a straw man to tear down. You really have strong debate skills and are super effective in getting your point across, without needing to resort to ridiculous logical fallacies. Very impressive.
@liberachi , you do really suck at arguing. I saw a bunch of, "I bet liberachi will..." comments recently and thought it was all good ribbing. You actuallly just ignore any dissenting opinion and confuse being contrarian and snarky with being clever. What life is built around just logging onto an app to offer up the least effort opinions in order to tout moral superiority? That's gonna be a yikes and a half from me dawg.
@liberachi , I think the issue with "male dominated _______" mentalities is that they fail to realize, or choose tonignore, the fact that they can get into the field. Just because it's male dominated right now, doesn't mean that women can't get in. Women just haven't. There are so many reasons that women aren't in any specific field, that it would be unwise to jump to the conclusion that descrimination is involved
@Invalid User, I do understand that mentality, and at face value, it makes sense. If someone has a problem with an industry, the obvious best case senario is entering into the field yourself and fixing it yourself. If you want something done right you have to do it yourself kinda deal. But the problem with that worldview is that the problem with the industry itself is often not a lack of representation or respect within the community (although that certainly doesn’t help) but that there are unequal barriers for entry into the industry itself.
For a long time, you weren’t going to get your movie made unless you let Harvey winestein or one of his cronies nut on you. And most of the time there isn’t a clear cut villian like winestein either. The problem isn’t the field, it’s the gatekeeping.
@cuckleberry finn, ok cuckleberry. I’ll try to do better.
@liberachi , well, applying that same logic the other way around, I could say that schools descriminate against men, due to the unbalanced ratio of female teachers to male. Same with nurses. It's all just a matter of interest, in terms of which job people get. And, I wouldn't take Oscars too seriously, anyway. It's an opinion that determines who gets them and who doesn't. It doesn't mean they aren't great. Plus, look at the increasing number of female protagonists in movies.
@Empshok, I think the whole voting system is ultimately pointless, but it most definitely is intended for the comment and not the person.
There certainly are a lot of people not using the system as intended, but it's really no surprise for someone who would regularly post heavily one sided opinions to receive heavily one sided votes for their post. This is especially true if it goes against the majority opinion of the room.
@Invalid User, In high school, maybe, but not in uni. Same with nurses vs doctors.
@liberachi , if those women banded together and actually did something about that it never would have been an issue. Why did the females of hollywood knowing thats how it is for all women entering the field let that happen for so long with no outrage or the slightest inkling of an attempt at change. If people would stop cowering to oppressive industries and saying "well thats just how it is" shjt like that would never happen.
@FFCrisisC, “if women just banded together they could easily solve all their problems”
“Feminism sucks and is pointless”
@liberachi , all men are pigs does not equal feminism lmfao
Kathryn bigelow, Rachel Morrison, none for music, 6 and 8 for the screen plays , bonus Josephine Lovett for writing
Yeah it's swaped with dudes wtf ever whinny biznatches.
@Uubuer, funny you should mention her. Because I she’s literally the only woman to have won best director. Ever.
Ya, who cares if you actually did a one of the best job, let's just make sure you are represented in a contest for people who did the best job.
Its also possible that there just isnt a high population of women in those categories so its more likely an award would go to a man purely cuz of the ratio