I was very disappointed by Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, and I found this. Lol really funny.
Was it really that bad? I've heard bad things and good things about it
@TrueJewBear, I've heard batman and superman things about it
@TrueJewBear, as an avid comic book reader and movie goer, I have no idea why it got such bad reviews. The whole time I was baffled because if you've ever read any comics you could tell that they almost did it perfect aside from a few stretches to keep the plot rolling, but I personally thought it was one of the better movies I've seen this year. I would rate it just below deadpool and just above ant-man
@TrueJewBear, I liked it. It's not the best movie ever, but it is good
@TrueJewBear, I heard that if you are a fan of the comics, the movie was frustratingly disappointing.
@TrueJewBear, save marthaaaa!!!
@Pilsberydoyghman, It was an unfocused mess of a story. I could spot multiple movies they tried to shove in there to rush up to marvel. Dark Night Returns, Man of Tomorrow, Wonder Woman, Luthor, and Death of Superman. But nothing gets proper time to develop because they rush through and jump between multiple storylines without trying to make a movie for each.
@OutlawOwl, I do agree with that it always feels rushed and most comic book fans feel like they deserved better, I on the other hand really felt like I followed every single story line they introduced but it did take me about 3 hours to explain it to my friends. I also think Aflek did a good job as batman personally. But a lit of people are saying he was bad
@TrueJewBear, No it wasn't. The only issue was the editing. The best description I've heard for it is this:
It's like a puzzle. The picture of it completed on the box is amazing, and each individual piece (scene) is awesome, but whoever had to put it together, is really bad at puzzles.
The potential for a good movie is there, but poor editing and pacing can really ruin a movie.
Non the less, i can see the good movie in there and I liked the tone. It's dark and serious rather than Marvels constant jokes and taking the weight out of any situation (I have nothing against Marvel, I'm just tired of their formula). I didn't care for BvS but I can see what it should have been, and because the problem with it some something so basic, I'm still excited for the rest of DC's universe.
PS: I don't know if any of that makes sense, I just woke up.
@TotalSchediophiliac, that was the best description I've heard yet, I couldn't agree more
@Pilsberydoyghman, theres a youtube channel called Funhaus that did a pretty good spoiler review of it, if you want to know why people didnt like it watch that i would say
@TrueJewBear, It was pretty good but too long with some unnecessary plots
@Pilsberydoyghman, I thought there were some unaddressed plot holes and poor choices made by batman.
@Pilsberydoyghman, my freind said comic book fans would love it regular movie goers would think its eh and critics would hate it but ill never be able to tell i have to pay off fricken car payments
@Pilsberydoyghman, exactly! When they first showed DD(using it as code for main villain to prevent spoilers), I literally stood up and clapped! I think a lot of people are mad because they were just looking for a superhero crackdown throughout the entire movie, but they misunderstood that this movie was a template for future titles.
@Black Beard , You mean the spoilers that they spoiled in the trailers that spoiled the entire movie?
@SixMargheritaPizzas, I didn't think of it as something that spoiled the entire movie (it's kind of the movie's purpose), but yeah.
@TrueJewBear, I really enjoyed it and I think it would have been perfect if they actually had a decent editor and a smoother plot. DC's extended universe is coming into existence now and it looks like it is going to be amazing
@TrueJewBear, as a common sense moviegoer with some concept of storytelling, it was absolutely garbage. Incomprehensible nonsense for an hour, 10 minutes of BvS actually fighting, and plot holes so massive they ruin the movie. It's terrible. Save your money.
@BearDaniels, Martha? Why did you say that name! Tell me!
@John Doe, will go down in history as one of the dumbest dialogues and anti-climaxes.
@TrueJewBear, no it wasn't bad it was awesome. People didn't like it because they expected Marvels humor in a DC movie. Also if you know comics you will love it, they did a good job with following the characters development after certain story archs.
@Pilsberydoyghman, ant man may have been ok, but you can't say a movie is good and then just barely rank it above antman...
@MCPO S117, Why would anyone watch those nazis?
@domewright, here's how my list went for movies that just came out in the last year. So the bottom of the list would be the fantastic 4 reboot then age of ultron, then antman then batman v superman and deadpool at the top. Just personal opinion
@TrueJewBear, sometimes i wasnt sure if i was watching batman, or the punisher
@TrueJewBear, I did not like it at all
@TrueJewBear, I actually really liked it. The only problem I can see with it is that it jumps from batman's story to superman's story a lot, but that didn't bother me. It followed the comics pretty closely and I thought it was a really good movie. I don't get why people say it's the worst movie they've ever seen and what not. If you haven't seen it yet I would highly recommend you go and see it so you can form your own opinion and not just listen to us :D if you do, I hope you like it!
@CriTiKa1, i see what you did there
@TrueJewBear, I reckon it was good entertainment, altho it did lack a few things but it was a great movie more the less
@Pilsberydoyghman, Have you read a comic book? The whole movie was an unapologetic slap to the face of comic fans. Literally every decision was wrong. Both Batman and Superman broke their no kill rule like 100 times, Jimmy Olson got shot in the head within the first 20 minutes, Doomsday looked like a fvcking cave troll, the titular fight was flaccid and underwhelming, Lex Luthor was terribly portrayed, and the whole plot was an exhaustive clusterfvck.
@Thatoregonianbastard, which comic book are you referring to I've ready every one they used for batman v superman except the death of superman I never read that one. All I know about it is that Doomsday beats the snot out of superman they both die then superman comes back somehow all the others I have read and own in my collection
@TrueJewBear, The best thing I've heard about Orphan Fight is the alternate name. Beyond that, I've not heard much good.
@TotalSchediophiliac, as someone going to school for editing, I can agree whole heartedly. Still enjoyed it though.
@TrueJewBear, I personally liked it but it definitely has a slow start and there were times when I was like "wait why / happened for this to occur?" But I might just be an idiot
@TrueJewBear, it's because of people's expectations. It wasn't just an action movie, or a dramatic movie. It was a superhero movie. It took itself back to the earlier days, before Marcel reinvented the genre, and before the Dark Knight. It was a power trip. Weak on story, strong on action and effects.
I liked it for the same reason I liked Man of Steel.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't go to a Batman movie or a Superman movie expecting a compelling story. That's because I don't want to hear about their alter egos. That's not what the comics are about either. Superheroes are supposed to be about watching super powered beings beat the crap out each other, and fantasizing about being one of them. That's why the first Avengers was the best of them, because it was a superhero movie without any origin or introduction (having been done in other films), and didn't screw around with secret identity plotlines.
In general, we don't care about Peter Parker or Clark Kent. We want
@I Are Lebo, to see Spider-Man or Superman being awesome.
So it's definitely worth seeing, and in theatres. But you need to go into it with the right mindset. Don't expect to be emotionally moved, it's not that kind of movie.
Also, Batman fans are pretty split down the middle about this portrayal of Batman.
This is the darkest on screen portrayal of Batman. He's very Frank Miller-esk. He kills people. At one point he takes a thugs knife from him and then stabs him with it. (I thought in the shoulder, but it might've been in the chest)
So is it the best superhero movie? No.
It's arguably the best DC movie, though.
@Ryjaki, see its very divided because at the comic shop I go to the owner didn't like it but I loved it.
@TrueJewBear, it was a lot better then what I thought it was. Plus after seeing it a lot of things from the trailers made more sense. It was also a great way to set up for the justice league movie.
@TrueJewBear, it really wasn't bad, just people jumping on the obnoxious band wagon all trying to sound smart by hating a film, it's not the best but it doesn't deserve 33%, more like 60-70%
@TrueJewBear, It was vastly disappointing honestly.
@TrueJewBear, I watched it recently and I've got to say it'd one of the best movies I've ever watched the action dialouge and the story is amazing the reason it got 38% is that rotten tomatoes think the movie is two dark and not fun despite tge fact that its grittier versions of two suoerheroes
I reccomend watching if you have the chance
@TrueJewBear, any film with high viewer ratings and low critic ratings is usually really good, critics are just asholess
@Thatoregonianbastard, I agree. I actually counted and batman intentionally, not including all the background deaths, killed 16 people. I was furious
@TrueJewBear, from what I heard, snobs don't like it but regular people said it has flaws but was a decent movie overall.
@TrueJewBear, it sucked
@TotalSchediophiliac, I bet a fan made edit could be good, just from editing the clips that made it into the final movie.
Rotten tomatoes is garbage. They've become like every other critic site out there going with the most popular opinion. If you're interesting in something go form your own opinion on it rather then waiting to be told what to like.
@Paul Newman, they gave kingdom of the crystal skull 78% and sharknado 82%
@Hugh J Rection, so don't trust then
@Hugh J Rection, well now I don't trust them either, Sharknado deserves 100%.
jkjk. But how come the great films are reviewed poorly and piles of dung are loved by RT critics? I think they look for an artsy message instead of a good film. Look up 'tropic thunder intro ads', I think they'd be all over Satan's Alley.
@Hugh J Rection, is not "they" only like 8 critics reviewed sharknado. Over 300 reviewed BvS. The truth is this movie was dumb and filled with half baked ideas. Because they're rushing to get all the other individual DC movies out. And btw reviews don't matter to this type of movies, transformers were hated by all critics yet there's some of the top grossing movies of all times. And "carol" "son of Saul" and "45 years" were the best reviewed movies of last year and they barely made a million. Reviews only matter for small independent or foreign artsy movies because that way people find out about them. I'm sure Bob in Alabama doesn't give a sh*t about what Manohla Dargis in New York thinks about BvS. So I don't understand why all the fanboys are tripping
@arcadefire, oh don't get me wrong BvS was a mess. It stated off so well and was just poor and seems rushed even for a near 3 hour long film so I understand why the critics panned it. I love both DC and marvel and other superhero films such as watchmen and sin city so I'm not bias
@Fantabulous Toaster, yeah a film about homosexual priest=Oscars
@Hugh J Rection, spotlight was about pedophile priest and won best picture last year 😅
@arcadefire, well there we have it
@Paul Newman, rotten tomatoes doesn't review films. They collect all of the reviews and average them...
The reason they stop fighting has to be one of the dumbest ideas in recent history. The action wasn't bad, and Afleck was great as Batman. A couple of scenes were obviously trying to rush the future of their films in, which I completely understand why they did it, but just made for very confusing scenes. Especially for those that went to the film having little knowledge of the DC comics universe.
I'm a huge comic book fan, and while it's true I'm a bigger fan of Marvel, that doesn't mean I want DC to fail at what they're trying to do. Superheroes are superheroes and if you're a fan of the genre, the company behind it shouldn't matter. The movie should just be treated as a movie and who cares who the characters are or what universe they're from.
That being said, I'd rate this a 6.5 at best. I sincerely believe that anyone that gives it over a 7 is just very desperate to believe it was good, simply because it had so much hype, especially for die hard DC fans.
@Cruxio , Very much agree on the reason they stop fighting to be very dumb
@Cruxio , why hate the reason? Batman is mentally unstable, anyone who knows Batman knows this. The fact that Superman is trying to save his human mom humanises himself in front of the bat.
@hollow114, I agree about the humanizing factor. However, this is the world's greatest detective, trying to save his entire species from extinction. Not even Alfred could convince him that Superman was their ally. All it took to convince him was this creature trying to save it's mommy. I refuse to believe that there world's greatest detective who was completely convinced in the destructive force of this creature, didn't consider for even a second that it was lying to save it's own life. Especially when he believes our entire species' survival depends on Superman's death
@Cruxio , I think this is the post red hood Batman who was too jaded and cruel to do any detective work.
@hollow114, that's a good point. That's one of the problems with the editing in this one, I suppose.
@Cruxio , yeah. Only problem in this film.
I thought movie was amazing. Don't listen to the IGN smear articles or the unfairly biased critic reviews. Go see it for yourself and formulate your own opinion instead of jumping on the hate bandwagon.
That's because adults suck and kids rock
That's because some movies are simply bad and have few redeeming qualities. Just because a movie sets out to do something doesn't mean it did so well. Most scary movies are garbage. Even if Dundee of them are intentionally bad, that doesn't warrant a good score nor does it mean it does so effectively.
@MOOPLES , damnit funnypics
It was terrible, batman was not a super hero, he was a psycho with access to a lot of guns, nothing more... Weak plot, choppy editing, and things thrown in for "fans" that helped nothing.... From what I've heard stupid ppl that like flashing lights were big fans
I gotta say, as much as I despise Rotten Tomatoes, I personally think BVS deserves the rating. I was very disappointed by it, and the more I think about it, the more I don't like it.
I've been a devoted batman fan my entire life. I grew up on the graphic novels and The Animated Series (And Batman Beyond). The movie sucked. The action sequences were great but there was hardly a plot and the portrayal of Batman was awful. Also, they seemed to forget that batman doesn't kill people. Especially as much as he did. But Jesse Eisenberg actually played a fantastic Lex Luthor
@Tom BombadiI, if you thought Batman sucked then you clearly never read the dark Knight returns or the killing joke or anything remotely good.
@hollow114, I've read both and many other greats. I have a large collection of trade paperbacks. My favorite is The Long Halloween
It could've been great, but executive meddling caused them to rush through several plots in a two hour thirty minute story. Batman was good, Superman was meh, Wonder Woman was pretty much all hype and no real substance, Jesse Eisenberg as Lex was probably a bad idea in hindsight, Doomsday was straight up stupid, and the Batman v Superman fight itself was great but way, WAY too short for a movie that spent its first half building up to it. All around it's pretty disappointing, but the only people that can really be blamed for it are the ones who were clearly too desperate to have DC compete with Marvel as soon as possible.
It currently has 29% on rotten tomatoes right now.
@Capitan Mexico, at one point I saw it had 11%
@Capitan Mexico, don't listen to the critics, the audience score is at 80% while sharknado has a tomato score of 80% and the audience score is like a 30%
@Doughnut Boy, that's because typically the general public has pretty low standards for entertainment. Critics review things based on their quality and what the movie is supposed to do. An entertaining movie can still be a poor movie. Sharknado is satirical. It's supposed to be silly, and it does what it sets out to do well. BvS did not.
@MOOPLES , yeah but they put the scary movies and other stupid movies with low ratings even though they are supposed to be stupid
@Doughnut Boy, I meant to send this as a reply "That's because some movies are simply bad and have few redeeming qualities. Just because a movie sets out to do something doesn't mean it did so well. Most scary movies are garbage, and ever if some of them are intentionally bad, that doesn't necessarily mean they warrant a good score, nor does it mean they do so effectively.
@MOOPLES , not scary movies I mean scary movie 1-4 as in the parody movies. Those have awful ratings because they are stupid but that's the whole point of those movies
@Doughnut Boy, But they're not clever. They're cheap popcorn comedies with low brow humor. The satire is mediocre. It's kind of entertaining but they're nothing special or impressive. And with the abomination that is the fifth one, the series is basically dead.