Let me know if I’m wrong, but from what I was reading awhile ago was that this is all major BS and the feminist movement basically took a study and blew it out of proportion. Basically percentage-wise males go after the much higher paying positions like engineering and doctorate degrees, which show males on average get the higher pay, but taking all that out of consideration males and females get paid the same. If the feminists want the statistics to look the same and stop skewing them, then maybe they should stop complaining and go after the higher paying jobs like Engineers that men usually educate themselves to at a higher degree.
@Jeffyg3, there’s a lot of things. Men are more likely to ask for a raise, men on average take less time off and are much more likely to stay late to get the job done which leads, naturally, to more money. All variables taken into real account, the gender wage gape is so small that it’s negligible. Woman don’t ask for a raise because they’re oppressed! -probably some feminist somewhere.
@Jeffyg3, You're correct. The actual "$0.77 to every $1" statistic is an earnings gap. Not a wage gap. Which means that the whole male gender earns more overall than the female gender. And yes, it does have to do with how both handle professional life. Women tend to prioritize their personal life (family) over professional. Men don't.
@Jeffyg3, don’t tell them that. As an engineer I already have to be smarter and a bigger dick to customers than the other guys. I won’t be able to compete with boobs too.
@Jeffyg3, I gota say I took a women and polotics course this semester and the wage gap exists in some jobs and the percentage women make is usually hovering around .80 in those fields like computer engineering that tend to be male dominated. Overall the wage gap exists in some fields but is never really past that 80% threshold. The numbers were pulled one year out of college and taken from correspondents who were single to eliminate variables. I could send a picture of the slide that was shown in class but essentially what the professor said is that yes women did tend to ask for raises less but I’m not sure of the work hours comparison. Essentially though that chart you were talking about was plagued with those problems and insinuated a .60 to 1 ratio of women’s earnings which was ridiculous.
@dwnzsnwlion, don't you know! Universities are liberal indoctrination camps! Also *politics
@Jeffyg3, they also make the titles too generalized. For instant male doctors make more than female doctors, but that’s because the percentage of women in let’s say pediatrics is higher than men, and the number of male neurosurgeons is higher than females, are all lumped together. Obviously a neurosurgeon will make more, and they use that generalized term of “doctor” to skew the amount of “gap” there is.
@Jeffyg3, actually I’m getting my doctorate in physical therapy right now and even though the field is mostly female, males make an average of $15,000 more
@kayciew27, but is that because they take more clients and work a longer day or cause they change higher per person to work with them
@ForgottenInTime, I’d like to point it that we are all probably mostly men discussing this issue. With no real education on it other than what we read online. (With the exception of the person who took a course in regards to this topic). But more importantly the hostility towards feminism and sjws on this app reminds me of my views as a teenager. As in they were misguided because I had yet to read and learn the material regarding this. All I’m saying is the misogyny on this app is astounding. But it’s ingrained in us, we gotta learn to kick the trait and be better. Not to push forwards some “sjw” agenda but because the world needs us to be better.
@Jeffyg3, to be completely honest, it’s not a stretch to say that a wage gap exists, in fact I’m sure around 99% of people on here would agree, I just don’t think it’s as large as $0.77 to $1 ratio. Probably closer to high 80s low 90s to a dollar.
@Sleeping Fish, there’s a show on Netflix called explained that cover this topic and it basically covers how it’s not a wage gap but an earnings gap. Women usually take time from their career to have kids meaning they do work less meaning they don’t as often get the promotion over a male in the same position and a whole bunch of other reasons that they cover. They also say women who don’t take time off for kids make something like 3% less than a male in the same position so yes there’s still a gap but it’s not a ridiculous number but comes down to women who want to have families or not. Still stupid but makes more sense
So are we sticking with two genders during this debate but 69 others when we aren't?
@Soulless at birth, We’re lowering the pay gap 1 gender at a time. If you listen carefully, you can hear the Apache helicopters revving in preparation.
@PBnJ, *America the Beautiful plays somberly in the background*
@PBnJ, watching them bust through that glass ceiling with hellfire missiles in slow motion is gonna be epic.
Just make sure Bruce Willis keeps his distance with cars...
Track record, you know.
@Soulless at birth, 69...nice.
“I could get the same labor for less if I hired a woman, but I’m gonna hire a man anyway.” - Capitalist pigs who only care about money
@A Deformed Penis, logic; modern feminism's greatest weakness
@A Deformed Penis, The kicker is those capitalist pigs don’t believe Women can hold positions of power, and thus get payed less. Tall men are likely to have positions of power. The tallest man often wins the presidency by an astounding margin. I understand your elementary take but boy does it miss out on so much. Read some books.
This is one of the best uses of this meme that I’ve seen
To be fair gender discrimination only ended like 50 years ago. Theres bound to be some systemic issues present until the old guard fully turns over to people that weren't raised to believe oppressing women is ok
@TheWhiteWolf, It's illegal. If there's anyone that is or knows a woman that is paid less than a male coworker for the same work and hours, take it to court. It would be an impossible case to lose.
@Weird Porn Stash, I mean more with hiring and internal rewards or promotions. Something as easily comparable as pay should never be an issue today (assuming the employers arent complete idiots)
@TheWhiteWolf, Ended? If only.
@Jdrawer, ended as in was legally allowed. Its since been declared illegal by the courts. Prior to that discrimination against women was legal. Theres a good looking movie upcoming about RBG that explores it
@TheWhiteWolf, And sadly legal discrimination isn't the only way to affect wage/earnings gap.
@Weird Porn Stash, I work for a company where I make 8k less than my male predecessor. I have been there 4 years, he was hired externally. I've been told I do a better job by my superiors so I asked to be paid the same rate and was shot down. He gap exists.
I really want to knowwhat this kid was thinking about
I remember hearing about how women are less likely to climb because if/when they have a child, they are less likely to be able to re enter in a skilled profession due to missing out on years of working