I don’t even know if I spelled mandatory right.
Anyone else terrified of not being remembered when you’re gone? Watched the Vsauce video on that long ago, really quite depressing. Many late nights dwelling on this
@Anass Rhammer, it has always kept me up too. I once heard that you truly die 2 times, the first is when your body gives way, the second is when your name is said for the last time in history.
@captiancaveman, yeah I’ve heard this, it’s truly sad, but inevitable
@Anass Rhammer, well, maybe it doesn't have to be sad, or even happy really. It will be what it will be ya know? All we can do is grab life by the nose ring and at the end of it all hope for one wild story to tell
@captiancaveman, well put, friend
@Anass Rhammer, meh, honestly as long as I lead a good life, giving to those less fortunate than I, trying to help anyone and everyone, just a good wholehearted life then what will I care if I'm remembered or not? Ill know in my final moments it was worth it and hopefully be at peace, and second I'll be dead so won't really know either way
@Anass Rhammer, I used to fear that but I don’t anymore. I will never be an Abraham Lincoln or a Michelangelo, but that’s ok. I may not be known by the world but I’ll be remembered by at least one person. I may not be celebrated, but I will have made a mark, no matter how small. There are people alive today because of things I’ve said or done and that’s an amazing thing. I won’t ever know some of these people just like some people won’t ever know the impact they’ve made on me but I know that I’ve made a positive impact just by being here. Try not to dwell on not being remembered. You will be.
@Anass Rhammer, not really. Death only scares me because Idk what happens afterwards, but the idea of no one remembering me or caring about me doesn't really bother me much. Mainly because I'll be fvcking dead and I don't think that my biggest problem will be if people remember me or not.
@captiancaveman, isn't that a major plot line in the new disney film, Coco?
@Anass Rhammer, Sorry to say, 99.9% of us will be forgotten by all but our children when we die. Think how many billions of people who have come before us - how many can you name?
We will die, we will pass in to the shadows, and we will be forgotten.
Except Jamal, he will be remembered here and at the store where he spent so much time.
@captiancaveman, If you’re trying to depress yourself, here’s a thought - one day when you were a child, your parents picked you up, put you down and never picked you up again.
@Anass Rhammer, I'll always remember you as anass rhammer
@Anass Rhammer, I don’t understand the obsession most people seem to have with legacy. I’ve always understood the math, and something like 99.999999% of us will be entirely forgotten within a century of our death. For most of us, our memory won’t even last 30 years unless we do something really horrible.
A life lived in pursuit of immortality, of being remembered forever, is a wasted life. The few people we DO remember we remember wrong. On top of that, if you are ‘lucky’ enough to be remembered, the inevitability is that a future generation will judge you based on their standards and find you lacking.
I don’t know what the meaning or purpose to life is, I really wish I did, but I know that it isn’t to be remembered for ever. Because it isn’t going to happen.
@Anass Rhammer, hi dude. Just my 2 cents here: a legacy is cool and all, but what good is it to you? You’ll be gone and will in no way benefit from people saying your name. When I’ll die, I’d rather be at peace with how I lived than having to worry about my legacy. I live now, what I do (or not do) impacts my live right now. My 2 sons want to play and pass the time with me right now, that is what makes them happy and gives my life an impact on ‘the now’. Let’s get a little bit sinister here: MLK will be remembered for a long time to come. But I bet he wished to have been with his family longer in stead of getting shot. Hitler will be remembered for 1000 years, but that is not a good thing. So I find peace in the fact that my name will be forgotten in a few generations. I won’t care at that time.
@Nellybert , I think for me that day coincided with the day my dad threw out his back. I’m sure that’s a coincidence, though.
@Anass Rhammer, that’s why you strive to commit some kind of atrocity so you will always be remembered. No one knows of worker 24782 on the assembly line but everyone knows about Hitler
@I Are Lebo, I know where you’re coming from, but your wording makes it sound like it’s a futile effort to strive for greatness
@I Are Lebo, very well said and I honestly think that the “pursuit of your name being remembered” does cause people to commit horrible acts.
@Anass Rhammer, nah, I don't deserve to be remembered.
@Atom bomb baby, if anyone deserves to be forgotten it’s the people who commit such sinister acts. I want people to remember the regular joes, the guys who pour their heart and soul into everything they do, but go unnoticed. I want their efforts to be appreciated
@Anass Rhammer, I know but unfortunately the world doesn’t work that way. the world in 1000 years will remember the name Stalin before any of the true heroes but, in my own opinion the true gratification for the good people on this planet is just observing how their actions benefit society.
@Anass Rhammer, I just kind of accepted it
@Smurf309s, Are you Donald Trump? So easily butt hurt that you have to go and down vote all of my posts... I seriously hope that this is the most difficult part of your life and that you have no challenges ever in your future. I don’t think that you’ll be able to cope with anything real.
@Anass Rhammer, it’s definitely a scary thought, but I always try to remind myself that in those last moments of breath and consciousness, I literally won’t give a shjt.
@Anass Rhammer, I hope I'm forgotten. Fading away would be a boon.
@Anass Rhammer, that’s why you carve your name into a sometime memorable like a bathroom stall, duh
@I Are Lebo, finally someone with some damn sense
@Anass Rhammer, nah, being remembered does nothing for me, especially when I'm dead.
@Anass Rhammer, to be honest all I truly want out of life is for my family to see me as a good husband and father if I do nothing else with my life but make them happy then I have done my job
@Anass Rhammer, "When you're gone who remembers your name? Who keeps your flame? Who tells your story?"
@Anass Rhammer, well, that depends on how you define greatness. If you define greatness by being remembered by others as a ‘great person’, then yes, is it a futile effort, because regardless of what great things you accomplish that label is being applied by others and you have no control over that.
@Anass Rhammer, everyone is forgotten eventually
Did anyone else read that in the terminator voice?
@bananaB, get to de chappah!
As Johnny Knoxville said in The Ringer,
"Some of these guys are good enough to compete in the real Olympics."
Ummm he didnt probe him wrong or counter his claim... all he did was call him a bad person. He had everything right about free speech and on the finish line where he defeats his idea with a rebuttel all he did was fall face first.
@BlazingBowman, you're right.
@TomPholio, because that guy may be a prick, but he made a logical point and Arnold did not. He used ad hominem rather than address the real argument.
@BlazingBowman, agreed. Guy is being a bit of an unnecessary jerk (using the retard word) but I cant say I disagree with his point.
@BlazingBowman, actually, you are incorrect, because the OP missed the entire point of the olympics. The olympics isn’t about proving who is best, it’s about promoting skill, courage, and acceptance. Being disadvantaged in one area of life, for instance, mental handicaps, doesn’t mean that one cannot strive for greatness in other areas, for instance, sport.
The special Olympics aren’t a bunch of retards flailing around a field until they pin medals on all of them. In fact, it’s primarily about physical disabilities. There’s no events in the regular olympics that involve a wheelchair, but to take the stance that someone in a wheelchair can’t be an Olympic athlete is ignorant and incorrect. I’d suggest you actually watch a recording of the special olympics, because Arnold is right in his rebuttal.
@I Are Lebo, I'm not saying he wasnt right to give a rebutle. I'm saying it contained no actual counter argument. what you said was an example of a valid argument. It may even be what Arnold meant, but he didn't really say those things.
But to you're point, I think the Olympics is indeed about who is best. That's the point of all competition. The spirit may promote other things like courage, sure.
I think as long as the disabilities are clearly related, like no one is competing with an unfair advantage, then that's great. But it still about finding out who is best. Just who is best given those limitations.
@TomPholio, yes, that’s true. But that’s not the purpose of the whole thing. Other than bragging rights, there’s no point to just ‘who is best?’ The spirit of competition is healthy and drives us to keep ourselves strong. The olympics allows opportunities for cultures to intermingle in a friendly way, and uses competition as the means to get the most people interested.
If the Olympics was just about proving who was best, the countries that never or rarely win in certain categories would stop competing in them.
It’s about bettering ourselves, not about being better than the other countries.
@I Are Lebo, to add to your point, it is also to recognized those who put into the work of bettering their physical abilities, and celebrating what humans can do when dedicated.
@Killing instincts , agreed
@TomPholio, chiming back in because I don’t think I was very clear in responding to your point.
Arnold did not counter the OP’s comment because the OP’s argument was based on a false assumption.
He got terminated
I don't know enough about special Olympics. Do people with similar disabilities compete? Or could someone with autism dominate someone with a missing leg? Ya know?
@TomPholio, People with physical disabilities have the Paralympics, people with mental disabilities have the special Olympics. 2 different olympics.
@DeathAwaits, ok but there are different mental disabilities too. So I'm saying autistic kids maybe shouldn't compete against kids with down syndrome or etc.
@TomPholio, I don’t really know how they qualify to compete against each other at the special olympics. My point was that a person with one leg is not a “special” Olympic competitor. Unless they also were mentally disabled, but I’m guessing if that was the case they wouldn’t be able to compete anyway.
Lots of thoughts about the afterlife here so I just want everyone to know that Jesus died for you and he will remember you after you die. You are in good hands. I met him, he’s nice.
Wut wut, in the butt