Magic doesn’t care about your feelings
This guy claims its all@about facts but he is more emotional than a school girl seeing her celebrity crush in person.
@Implicit88, yeah, but his IQ is higher than yours and mine combined, and he has some really solid ethics, so if he gets overly passionate about what he believes in, that’s fine by me
@RepostSniper, i highly doubt his iq is higher than mine let alone both of ours. Unless yours is negative. He makes outlandish claims through yellow journalism which is dangerous because it appears true to most people that dont think analytically.
@Implicit88, well your IQ wasn’t quite high enough to just take that hyperbole for what it was, but that’s ok. You’re entitled to your opinion, and so am I.
@RepostSniper, it can be very difficult to see figurative language online where tone is virtually non existence. The reason for my previous message is that the highest iq is 162, while the average is around 105.
@Implicit88, that exaggeration couldn’t have been any more obvious. The fact that you missed it and went for a stupid quip about my IQ being negative should make you wonder if you’re not as smart as you think.
Anyways, a quick google search shows that Shapiro’s IQ is 136. The standard distribution curve states the 95% of American are between 70 and 130 IQ. I have a bachelors in computer engineering technology, but that statistic is why I’m very confident in saying that he’s smarter than you or I.
You can disagree with his politics all you want, but facts don’t care about your feelings, nor do they care about how smart you think you are.
@RepostSniper, facts dont care about feelings is true, however, ben hardly is a factual person. I wont get into my credentials because you probably dont care, even so, i can assure you my IQ is higher than his. As for the remake about a negative iq, i already gave you the reason as to why i said that, mathematically knowing mine the addition would have to be negative to reach bens IQ. If i hurt your feelings that was not my intention. I never disagree with politics, i only disagree or agree with facts or solutions.
@Implicit88, lol, ok boy genius. I can’t wait to see the scientifically marvelous creations of your 136 IQ benefit mankind. You must truly be a prodigy of intelligence and objectivism, as well as political thought. I imagine that if I hadn’t wasted so much of your time in this dialogue, you’d have already single handedly cured cancer, solved the energy crisis, and defeated Ben Shapiro’s illogical positions.
@RepostSniper, you really dont know how iq works do you? Different levels of intelligence in different areas affects your score differently. Iq is relative to ones age. Even extremely talented individuals only make incremental improvements, you would know this if you knew anything about history. I am by no means a genius, by my own standards, but i have a few things that help me excel at iq tests. Regardless of that, you cant fix an issue if people dont understand the problem since they have to become part of the solution.
@Implicit88, whatever you say, boy genius.
@RepostSniper, blind as a bat.
@Implicit88, right back at ya, bud.
@RepostSniper, says the one incapable of entering into an intelligent conversation by hiding behind sarcasm.
@Implicit88, I think I made my case pretty logically, but as I said before, you’re entitled to your opinion
@Implicit88, besides, sarcasm is a strong indicator for intelligence, but you’d know that if you were half as smart as you think you are. Thanks for the compliment
@RepostSniper, you are an interesting fellow, you mock me because i say i am intelligent and then you do the same.
@RepostSniper, you triggered snowflake lol I can feel your angst through this post 😂
@Implicit88, dude I’ve downvoted all his whiny dumbáss posts. He tried so hard to be quick witted at first and then he got depressed
@Unkle77, lol thanks. Im surprised u read through our entire conversation.
@Unkle77, lol, you guys are cute. Your names are even similar with the numbers.
...kinda like you’re the same guy with two accounts 😂 or maybe you’re just butt buddies
i fəcking hate that transphobe ben shapiro we should all kill him
@communistcat, Isn't it sexist to subjectively identify your own gender based simply on mental traits you associate with said gender since it only works to support such narrow classification we have been working to remove for gender equality?
Transexuals are just like people who justify dying their blonde hair because "Im not dumb". Except now they don't even need to dye their hair, they just say "I'm not dumb so don't call me blonde".
This doesn't fix the problem, it increases the current one.
@Tentastic, some people just feel different and they dont feel good with how they were classified when they were born.
this then can lead to depression and suicide, do you want people struggling with there identy be called some thing as sinful as 'sexist' because of how they feel.
i get your point but some people dont feel comfortable in there own body
@communistcat, I adopt a hair dye view. Go ahead and let people do it, but if someone with blonde hair is saying it's brown, they're crazy.
If they feel more comfortable being the other gender, go ahead and actually have surgery or do drag. Pronouns and gender are only for physical traits.
Also the depression and suicide rates remain the same.
@communistcat, you mention suicide. suicide rates after reassignment are just as high if not higher than before surgery. So even after being “corrected” they still hate themselves.
Your other points are about feelings so I slide those away, since you would disregard others feelings or thoughts to satisfy your own
@Tentastic, yeah i understand they should take action and change it
@Richard Cypher, While I agree with "facts don't care about your feelings", this isn't one of those cases.
If something makes you unhappy and you can do something to change it, then I think you should. I was unhappy being skinny and weak, but I didn't say "I'll just accept that". I started eating more and working out.
However to expect other people to change for you (call me strong and intentionally lose when I armwwrestle with you), that's not how the world works.
@Tentastic, oh no I agree with you for sure. Your own thoughts and feelings are the only real factor stopping anyone from achieving what they want or making a positive change in their life. I was just talking about what he said calling people sexist for feeling different
@communistcat, I actually have been thinking about that for a while, the while matter of Gender Disphorea. It is, in fact, a mental disorder. Just like any other sort of mental disorder. So, acceptance is still good. But not accepting the fact that you feel like a guy and everyone should bend to your will. I feel like the real acceptance here is accepting that you are what you are, despite what your mind thinks. Maybe even take meds, so you are comfortable with your body. I'm not sure if you watch any of Ben's stuff, but one comparison he made was that if a crazy person thought she was the queen of England, of course we wouldn't start treating them like a queen.
@Invalid User, but thats not the same thing though.
this is just a matter of gender
not thinking your the fəcking queen.
they are different things and some people arent comfortable how they are described also ben shouldn't host meme review he's not worthy lets get jack black
@communistcat, of course they're not the exact same thing, but it's the concept that matters. Rather than overcoming the disorder, and working to make their mind finally accept what they are, they just relish in pampered attention while complaining about everyone else not bending to their problem.
If trans people want to go through the surgery, go for it. If they want to dress differently, fine. But don't try to make it am act of violence when someone doesn't refer to you as one of the countless genders your agenda has created
@Invalid User, they just want to be called what they are now as long as they arent yelling st people the correct name then you should call them it alright.
its just how they feel permanent or temporary we should just accept them as what they feel they are.
@communistcat, well, I accepted my friend as trans. But lord knows how hard it STILL is for me to say "He" after 3 years of saying "She". His friends yelled at me for it, even though I was simply brought up that way, and it isn't truly harmful. My friend later pmd me, and said that He just wished I tried sometimes.
I accepted Him as trans the moment he came out. But I'm a horrible person if I can't manage to say Him/He, or even dare to admit I feel a little awkward abruptly changing like that. I don't think I'm the one who has issues accepting things. And I know I sound super hostile, but that's because I've really only had bad encounters with trans people, or the subject of trans people.
@Invalid User, ok im not trans but my now brother is and he only came out two years ago and i understand its not as easy for other people
@communistcat, also, we're you serious about hating Ben? I understand he is pretty smug sometimes, but overall his values are pretty agreable. He definitely isn't Transphobic because. You know. Phobia's are a fear of something, and he's not really afraid of them. Aside from that though, even if you hate every value he talks about, you do have to admire the amount of research he does, and how well he debates topics. We need more people like him, in terms of research effort. Not these journalists that which hunt white people
@Invalid User, the term transphobic means the dislike/disapproval of transexuals and it is wrong in my opinion And any sane person
@communistcat, well I dislike transexuals. Not because they're trans, but because most of them I've seen do it for attention and only care about themselves. And it only started meaning "dislike" (homophobic, transphobic, etc) recently, which the same side of the political spectrum (talking about feminists here) made the word "mansplaining". Anyway, getting a bit off topic. Nothing is really wrong with Ben. He has an opinion. He voices it in speaches, and discusses/debates with others. He's not pushing to make it a crime to be transgender, or anything like that. And you saying he needs killed because you assume he's transphobic because of his viewpoint only proves further how radical and closed off most trans peeps are. And if you want to see real TransPHOBIA, look at me. I'm fvcking terrified of most of them. Not because they're trans, again. But because of the agendas they push, and what they would do to me if they even saw me, heard me speak, or anything. Everything bends to their
@communistcat, will, including the mainstream media that's so left bent and that people believe before even doing full research.
They can influence my life so easily based on their political spectrum that they can literally ruin my life by whining about me
@Invalid User, yeah well lets agree to disagree here
@communistcat, sure. I knew you were beyond reason when you disagreed with the definition of phobia simply by stating a twisted meaning of it
@Invalid User, and your the one that supports a scumbag
@communistcat, I'm the one who supports someone who works hard to solidify they're viewpoint with solid, accurate facts. The second he does something scumbaggish, count on me to not take a liking to him anymore. Have fun in your safe space
@communistcat, you probably think I watch Ben's debates and lectures like a sport, "rooting for home team". You would be an idiot to believe so. I don't surround myself with yes men. Whenever I watch him, I sit there, and think and think and think. About the other persons point. Why they're right. Why they're wrong. I think about what he's right or wrong about. I don't sit on my side, constantly learning what my side wants to push against the other. I sit in the middle, listening to both. Sometimes agreeing with some of the students who stand up and debate with him. I don't sit there and just soak up what Ben says and accept it as fact for no reason. He provides facts, so naturally, against undeniable evidence proving his case, I agree with him on a lot of things. This in no way makes me a cvck, or scumbag, or anything.
@Invalid User, im not saying that im saying that i disslike your opion
now can we please stop talking about this im trying to relaxe
@communistcat, alright. Sorry, I just get worked up over this kind of stuff. Especially since Ben has pretty much been the only speaker that I've seen that seems rational. (That's not saying a lot, since I don't know a lot of speakers.) I'm just honestly afraid I guess. Anyway, didn't mean to cause you stress.
@Invalid User, oh its alright sorry if i workes you up
@communistcat, nah, nah, it's fine. I just watch too many of the bad parts of the LGBT community. You're good.
@Invalid User, and my brother who im close to tells me a lot of this stuff and i just want to defend him
@communistcat, yeah, I can respect that. I know I sounded way too aggressive, but I hope you at least know where I'm coming from
@communistcat, I’m not sure if you’re making that comment as bait
@Invalid User, ok i get you
@Bad Boi Jesus, please theres too many comments on this comment stop please
@communistcat, aight, thanks. Sorry again for stressing you out. Have a great day! :)
@Invalid User, thanks have a nice week :)
@communistcat, damn. I got 1up'ed. Feelsbadman
@Invalid User, ha
@communistcat, your initial comment is a bit of an overreaction to someone with a different opinion, is it not?
I don’t like the guy myself, and I lean too far left to agree with much of anything he says on principle, but that’s no excuse to feel such vitriolic hate towards someone that you would wish for their death.
@communistcat, You said your brother is trans. Is he doing drag or surgery?
And second, could you talk to him and ask him what makes him think he's the other gender i.e. what do the words masculine and feminine mean to him, and why he identifies with them.
Then i want you to think; what does identifying as that said gender really accomplish besides just trying to be yourself? Why should you adhere to said 'gender roles'?
@communistcat, hey pal, calls to action that could result in violence are one of the few things not protected under free speech
@communistcat, stay mad, son. Did that triggered you? Trump 2020, theres only 2 genders, guns stop bad guys, cops are nice people, build the wall, gender gap doesnt exist.
@Tentastic, Suicide rates for people with gender dysphoria are higher than the general population. I do agree with you on the rest though