Let me grab my AC/DC album and my cattle prod.
@Xandie, Sounds like a party to me
There are so many idiots saying that they want Trump to be assassinated, but people keep forgetting the fact that if Trump is assassinated, we'll have a Pence presidency. Is that you want? Replace a narcissist, arrogant dingus with a fanatically religious, homophobic dingus? People seriously need to think about these things when they say this sh!t.
@Nitr0Nerd, while I do agree that a Pence presidency could be just as bad, I think it would probably do less damage to the nation as a whole. Also, Pence is actually a politician too, on some level he may know that is necessary to compromise sometimes. We would never get that level of overall thought from Donny Drumpf.
@Nitr0Nerd, what if you assassinate both doe
@Nitr0Nerd, yeah, who wants Pence, a space alien from mars that wants to eat all human babies! Sound silly? Well, it's as true as the hyperbole you just used to describe Pence.
@Oujosh29, The guy didn't want evolution to be taught in schools because he believes it to be false. If that's not being a fanatic, I don't know what is.
@Nitr0Nerd, I brought this point up as soon as he got elected, some people I knew thought it would be the best thing but failed to recognize who would succeed him
@Nitr0Nerd, I looked, couldn't find anywhere that said he tried to take evolution out of schools. The best I could find was he was petitioned to include creationism. Also couldn't find anything saying he ever tried. So, not that fanatical, considering fanatics actually try to force others to do something instead of just thinking they would like it.
@Nitr0Nerd, i dont disagree but Trump also doesnt believe in global warming and that is more of an undeniable and more agreed upon fact that evolution.
@Oujosh29, don't forget he also gutted public schools because his wife is in charge of the charter schools in Indiana so he created the voucher program which drains public school funding for private- for profit charter schools which in turn makes his wife (and by extension himself) more money. There's a reason indiana is one of the worst states to live in- and that reason is good old Pence
@Nitr0Nerd, and after that you'd have Pual Ryan! What do we do?!
@TenorTwoPointO, why do people want an actual politician as a president? Politicians are paid to lie and deceive and not do what they say. Why is that better than someone that literally is doing what he said? Hell everyone should run for president because then we wouldn't get the lying pieces of shjt that we do. Also then people wouldnt complain because the president didnt do as they said
@Assassinator2399, we want a politician because they are capable of compromise. They will try to please as many people as possible, they won't go too extreme.
Honesty, and fulfilling campaign promises do not a good president make. Especially when the promises made are vile and horrific.
@TenorTwoPointO, yeah that's not true. Last time I checked congress and Obama shut the government down because they couldnt come to a compromise. Politicians arent special, everyone is capable of compromise it just depends on how willing they are to actually compromise
@TenorTwoPointO, the real reason people want a politician is because that's the norm. They're used to having to deal with lies and deceit but when they cant predict the person's actions they lose their damn minds. Honestly I'm not really pro trump however I think it is a step in the right direction because it shows we're looking beyond the usual bullshjt that politicians feed us and we're actually starting to think for ourselves. Maybe a normal citizen will become the next president. There is no reason to only have politicians as presidents anymore
@Assassinator2399, I agree that doing that was absolute garbage. They shouldn't have. But the thing is that they did actually come to a compromise in the end.
I'm not saying that politicians are the only one's who can achieve compromise, I'm saying that they have a greater stake in achieving it. They will try a bit harder. Or at least try at all. With the orange nightmare there will never be compromise because he has an inherent disregard for any beliefs or opinions not his own.
@Assassinator2399, I whole heartedly agree with the sentiment. But the man is a disaster that legitimately might destabilize the nation. 'Lesser of two evils is still evil' is no reason to take the greater of two evils.
@TenorTwoPointO, people will normally try to reach a compromise regardless of their profession. Its human nature to reach some sort of agreement. The problem with politicians is their ego. A lot have a huge ego and will refuse to compromise (I.e. the gov't shirt down). Anyone put in that position will need to compromise at some point as we saw with the shut down but some wait until the problem has gotten to its worst.
@Assassinator2399, again. I don't disagree. In fact I also agree that it stems from ego, which is why the ignoramus in the bad toupee is the worst person to be president as his ego is so vast that he outright contradicts facts rather than admit he was wrong.
@TenorTwoPointO, its not as bad as everyone makes it seem. 90% of the media coverage is blown out of proportion and if he does destabilize the nation he won't be the only one to blame. Congress and The Supreme Court will have hell to pay because they're there to check his actions and correct them if necessary. The president has very little power, much less than he used to. The problem here is the media is still freaking out because they didnt expect him becoming president. Everything the guy does becomes a headline in some way and the oversaturation shows they really dont know what's going on
@Assassinator2399, it may not be as bad as it is made out to be but it is still bad. We still have by far the most evil president we've had since Nixon. He still has begun implementation on some of the most morally bankrupt policies this country has seen in decades. We still don't know the full workings of his relationship with Russia, or what may be found on his tax records. These are issues that are a legitimate concern that need answers. This is the damage that he can do, he can distract and misdirect. Preventing real answers to be found.
@TenorTwoPointO, so it'll be him distracting and misdirecting us and not the media this time. My point is it all works the same, if its not one person lying to us its everyone else. Also why is it a problem if he is affiliated with Russia? We could possibly create an alliance between us and Russia which has never truly been seen. What would be so bad about that? The tax records are not of the public concern as it has nothing to do with him being a president. His personal tax records don't affect his ability to "lead" the country so theyre not a huge concern. Its the same as when people were asking for Obama's birth records, that didnt affect his "leading" skills so it was forgotten about. Also until he has done something evil (which is possible) we can't call him evil. Until then we can call him unfavorable but even if that's the case that's too bad because we still elected him as our president.
@Nitr0Nerd, If you ask nicely, we'll restore the monarchy and replace them with one of our spares - don't worry, they're low-maintenance and haven't been directly involved in politics for generations, so you don't have to worry about them passing crazy laws.
How about Harry? His girlfriend is hot and he's an Apache helicopter pilot in the army. Oh, and he got photographed naked in Vegas once. He'd fit right in.
@Assassinator2399, first media misdirecting is substantially better than the leader of a country misdirecting. One is just bad press the other is totalitarianism.
Second, there are enormous problems with his possible ties to Russia. Not least of which is the conclusion of our intelligence communities that Russia hacked into the DNC servers with the goal, which was rather successful, of influencing the election. i.e. the election Drumpf won. That is immediately a massive conflict of interest.
Third, an alliance between the USA and Russia is not necessarily a bad thing. But the methods by which it would be established are far from appropriate.
Fourth, his tax records legitimately could affect his ability to lead. If his tax records show massive holdings in Russia that is another major conflict of interest. Likewise if the great angry orange had economic ties to a nation that, say had human rights violations, then that would likely steer his policy, continued
@Assassinator2399, as to not hurt those economic ties.
Fifth, he has done numerous evil things. Like, for instance, sexually harrassing/assaulting various women. Which, recall, is some we have a recording of him saying. That's evil. Shortchanging people who did construction jobs for him, citing “they didn't do a good job,” when he was recorded prior saying that they had. That's evil. Restricting various government agencies from talking about climate change as well as other acts of censorship. That's evil. Advocating war crimes on the campaign trail. That's evil.
@amqwetts2147, why would you want to kill 2 female deer?
@CynicalSir, y not
@Nitr0Nerd, Trump for eight years and Pence for eight sounds good to me.
@TenorTwoPointO, Two quick things: the DNC hack "influenced the election" only by exposing the corruption in the Democratic party. "Oh no Russia hacked us that's bad" is a great smokescreen for "we purposefully made it so that it was harder for Sanders to gain ground because we only wanted Hillary from the start," among other things.
Second, we have him on record making what could just be a tasteless joke. Horrible, offensive, awful thing to say? Absolutely. Evidence of crimes committed? Not even close.
@HiroAntagonist, in relation to the first I would have itnoted that what the DNC was not by any means excuseable. I do hold them accountable for that. But the fact remains that it was a foreign influence. The DNC, for all their shjt, is still a domestic influence.
It could still qualify as an admission of guilt. But even disregarding any criminal offense the fact that you would make such comments shows that Donny Dumbäss has no moral fiber. That he is an evil man.
@TenorTwoPointO, You've never made an offensive joke? Or said something in private that would upset people if they heard it? Again, it was a terrible thing to say. But killing people en masse is evil. Torturing people in woodchippers is evil. Putting the toilet paper roll on backwards is evil. Perspective.
Also. Talk about how hateful and evil and bigoted he's being all you want. But your attitude isn't much better by base definitions. Answering hatred and disrespect with hatred and disrespect helps no one and makes you look like a hypocrite.
@HiroAntagonist, I have never made claim to be a good person. Nor do I lead the powerful nation in the world.
Also, no. I have never in my life made a joke about committing sexual assault.
Also also, with him it extends beyond the joke that's not the only issue. His life is riddled with such comments as well as women saying he had assaulted them. Now to be fair it is such a hard thing to prove but when it is that prevalent throughout his life then maybe it isn't a joke anymore.
@TenorTwoPointO, So what's the cutoff? If, say, it was twelve women, if that's the magic number where we start considering men criminals without a conviction, how many businessmen, politicians, actors, singers... Anyone rich and/or powerful would there be that the public is supposed to shift their attitude towards?
Really, if you wanna get rid of sexist perverts, you're gonna have to clean out 90% of Washington, and probably at least half of Hollywood. "What's that got to do with anything?" It's a double standard. Treating him as a criminal absent evidence or conviction and not any other powerful or rich person isn't right. Every congressman and senator has just as much power as he does, after all, but in different areas.
@ajr12100, As a person who lives in Indiana, I can say it's actually pretty cool here
@YummyCummy, I live in Indiana myself- the majority of people I know who live here hate it, there's a few that like it but not many
@ajr12100, I guess it depends where you live. Here in Carmel everyone hates us but we're pretty happy
@YummyCummy, yeah, my neighborhood is nice but if you drive 20 miles in any direction you get either ghetto or empty corn fields that no one owns anymore- but in my opinion the pollution alone would merit leaving Indiana since we have some of the worst air pollution in the US
@HiroAntagonist, honestly I'd say the cutoff is one claim before there is a thurgough investigation.
But again criminalality was never the discussion here. It was abject evil alone. His comments, even if they were jokes, show a profound lack of character. A truly out of touch person who has no place in public office.
@ajr12100, Really? I can't recall ever having any air quality issues. Is that an Indianapolis specific problem?
@YummyCummy, no, I live in a small farm town- it's a full on indiana problem- I have several friends who actually have asthma because of breathing pollution for so long
@TenorTwoPointO, So you're gonna impeach all those senators, too, right? Because many of them have actually committed crimes and gotten away with them, verifiably.
"Lack of character" still isn't evil, btw.
@YummyCummy, I actually live in the northernmost part of Indiana, about 2 hours from Indy
@ajr12100, Is that anywhere near Chicago or Gary? Those are two problem areas for pollution
@YummyCummy, I'm a ways away, 40 or so miles from Gary and around 70 from Chicago... but it is most likely due to the pollution from Gary- being blown miles to me.
Indiana is generally ranked in the top 5 for worst environment (air/water quality) and has been for at least a decade
@ajr12100, Wow that sucks, it is weird how I can see the Indy skyline from Carmel Bukit our asthma rate is under 3 percent
@HiroAntagonist, if I could I would.
I agree it's not. But it's not the only thing stopping my argument that he is a wholly evil man.
@All my Mizore, no it's not. We have an overwhelming amount of evidence that says the shifts in climate are natural and probably not effect that much, if at all, by humans. A recent study was just released that showed solar radiation effects our climate more than anything. Also, if you were paying attention to stuff related to climate change, you would know that the study used in the Paris climate agreement was literally falsified. So no, global warming/climate change is not an undeniable or even remotely agreed upon.
@TenorTwoPointO, Again, I'm back to: is he a mass murderer? Does he routinely torture or otherwise injure or deprive people? Does he steal Christmas presents from children?
Don't you dare use Race Bannon that way. Shame on you.