Ah state capitalism. It's like big corporation had a child with the DMV. And just enough communism to help keep the population down enough to make starvation less of a problem.
@voided sanity, Toss in some modern technology and let it all simmer for a bit longer and you’ll get a really nice Si-fi dystopia.
@Weird Porn Stash, add a pinch of orwelliian just to give it that don't feel safe with your own thoughts
@voided sanity, add a pinch of the lowest common denominator pandering of Democracy and you got the set up.
@voided sanity, well, in China, if the government knows you are thinking about Winnie the Poo, you are a problem to them that needs to be dealt with.
Yea you like that don’t you???
@megamanx181x, Capitalism is amazeballs when you are the target demographic.
Capitalism is the worst.
It's a small start, but the oppressive government will need to relent or be relieved of their strict control over them to flourish
@Dephenistrator, what’s the most effective means of change? Edit: definitely not violence.
@SirLordKraftDinner, their government needs to be overthrown yet again
@SirLordKraftDinner, I would say that if change is all your looking for violence is by far the most effective tool. But change is not inherently positive. Which is why violence is not the first answere, though it should always be on the table.
@Kliment Voroshilov, i would really hope it doesn't require violence. They have the same government that gave the orders to kill during Tiananmen square with the awareness that the world is watching now. Hopefully there's a peaceful way but i don't see it as likely for this regime. China has a massive population if it uprised though, maybe that could scare the elite powers
@Dephenistrator, I think almost anyone Hope's to be able to solve problems without violence, I certainly do. But as a realist I belive that violence, especially when it comes to tyrannical governments, ought to be on the table. Tianimen square if anything is an argument for complete overthrow of the chinese communist party. The world was watching then too and it did not deter them in the slightest.
@Kliment Voroshilov, i pretty much know they need violence but i know that's gonna cost serious amounts of lives. There are not in a win win scenario.
Tiananmen square did have reporters, but they didn't really feel the international lashback until afterwards i think. I think that's why they are handling hong kong more carefully. I am expecting at some point, all the cameras go dark and they do their oppressive thing again. I don't think they will let it go on for long and time it when the media dies down or something gives them a reason to rush in.
I honestly think China's options are bleak without outside interference and who in their right mind would start a war, or fight in an uprising against china? If it really did happen the world would be better off on many levels. North korea would lose it's guard dog, communism would evaporate from large swaths of the earth. And chinas aggression with encroaching islands on major trade routes would end. well, actually possibly not that one