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@Pocket Monster, you just said the most stereotypical thing in the world about guys. Not all of us watch top gear and play cod. These aren't the only two things all guys think about. We're not brainless monkeys just to be used for small talk about cars. (if you can't tell I'm making a joke, but on a serious note, this is reallllyy stereotypical, but I don't really care. Gender stereotypes don't really bother guys that much as much as women, mostly because we know at the end of the day we still have it a lot better than they do)
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@Pocket Monster, did you actually have this conversation? Or is this in your head. Boys can be often stupid and inconsiderate. But who cares. Im one and think the whole idea of classic group manifestations is archaic but oh well. I hope you dont actually stay with this position you shared and that you are just venting. That would show a lot more maturity that i think you have that i can read by inference. Does that make sense?
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@Pocket Monster, as a fellow female engineer I hung out with the guys no problem. They were pretty open to hang out and/or study. Engineering students are just a little more shy and/or not as social. It's all the book studying lol. But with current social stereotypes and girls actually "trying" to pull off the gamer thing I can see how they could be dubious at first. Just be yourself though. You don't need people in your life that don't accept you for who you are. We all grew up with video games, so I'm not sure why it's "surprising" when girls play.
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@Blackfrost273, I was just venting. I generally like the subject but I would enjoy it so much more if I felt as though I could actually fit in. I really do want to have a conversation and I do try to engage but being stared at by thirty people is just not what I'm there for. I'm sorry if my original comment was offensive to anyone but I needed to talk to someone about it. Anyone. I know that guys are multidimensional characters but these topics are generally what they talk about and what they need to understand is that I am not trying to kiss up or anything else of the sort. I am in that field because it's what I like to do. I relate to those people because of that. Gender regardless, we are brought together because we have similar interests. Once again, I didn't mean to offend anyone and all I want to do is talk about my interests to people who are interested in the same thing. Thanks.
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@Pocket Monster, I like how you elaborated on the subject. My advice is to try and talk to only 1 or 2 of your colleagues at a time so that they start to see your interests are genuine. These interpersonal talks show more validity in your personality and makes people more comfortable. Once they've all got to know you a bit better, then talking in a group should be a lot easier.
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Cool thing about college is you get to take more then one class :). Also, I'm sure if we really wanted to explore ratios, the lack of men in gender studies when compared to that of women in stem/w.e. class would be statistically more shocking. Personal thoughts on as to why would probably be lack of interest in the topic for guys. I myself would have little interest. There is obviously a much broader scope to G.S. then just the topic of equality, but as far as thats concerned i want everybody in this world to have an equal chance at this whole experience that is life, and by that I mean so much more then just things related to money. We all know this is our chance at this life, and in reality no one lifetime could ever be the exact same. All of us, men and women that are able and unhindered should be taking advantage of every day we have to enjoy the world/people around us and help anyone we can. Taking time from your life to improve another will sow greater reward then money everwill
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I'm a guy in stem and I can tell you it's not a boys club. In we have female specific incentives that make it easier for women to get into it than men. I think women don't join because it is mostly men and it's highly competitive. Your "peers" are going to be people who want your funding or job and they target each other professionally. Women don't last very long in stem fields because they get bullied and don't fight back. I think it's true you have to have balls to be in stem but you don't have to be a guy.
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@BearDaniels, *Raises eyebrow* I said bullying women is bad. I didn't say guys or other genders can handle it :p *Raises second eyebrow* "women don't join because ... it's highly competitive." "Women don't last ... because they get bullied and don't fight back. I think it's true you have to have balls to be in stem" *Raises third eyebrow*
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@Handless Juggler , bullying is inherent in stem. If you don't show how you are smarter, how your own read etch or project is better than another then you won't get funded or you won't get the job. You can't get rid of the bullying, if you did stem would cease to exist and America would be more stupid because of it. So if women want to be in stem they need to be able to handle it and fight back. I would treat women just like I would treat any guy. Last I checked that's the opposite of sexism. However if you prescribe to the version of feminism where women get more rights than men then yeah STEM is unfair to girls.
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@Aithusa, I honestly think part of the problem is the name of the movement. Feminism in name is always going to be prone to getting linked with the extremists of the group. Think about how people feel about Liberals and Conservatives (depending on where you are looking from). The images many receive are those to the extreme side of those political sides. One of my friends said the name of the movement should be changed to something more in line with an equality movement rather than a rights movement. But hell if I know.
I'm the only girl in my industrial engineering class and nearly every day they'll get into a discussion about something like Top Gear or cod and whenever I try to give my opinion, they stare at me and I can tell by their faces that they think I'm lying. Why the hell would I try to impress you? So now they think I'm a shy little introvert because I've given up on trying to join their discussions. It's really off-putting for a lot of girls so keep your mind open because I am goddamn upset about Jeremy Motherfvcking Clarkson punching someone and getting laid off. Try to let girls speak.