And they say I'm evil
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@0123meir, The blood of Jesus, the blood of jesus, the blood of jesus
Please correct me if I'm wrong but don't churches (even mega churches) collect donations from the clergy during all services?
If it was just when a bunch of people were seeking shelter that would be bad, but if it was during his weekly service, I think I understand why.
@add eggs then stir, NO YOU LITTLE SHJT JOEL OLSTEIN IS THE UBER MEGA DEVIP AND IF YOU DEFEND LITERALLY ANYTHING HE'S EVER DONE YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER!
@add eggs then stir, I think after major catastrophes some places hold off unless they're asking for money to specifically help with reparations around town. Either way hurricanes are so expensive (even without the property damage) so it's a little distasteful. Especially from someone who has plenty of money coming in and could ask people nation wide instead of his local church
@Laurenkelly, his money is from writing and selling books. The church money is completely separate. They collect money at every church service, it's another attempt at the media twisting the truth.
@Jensen1104, he actually used to get paid a pretty penny for his church service before he started writing. But regardless, it's still distasteful to be asking people who just lost everything to give up more. Hurricanes are ridiculously expensive and I just personally don't think it's morally right to ask people for money after something like that happens. But to each their own I guess
@Laurenkelly, I doubt he stood up and asked the hurricane victims specifically. He probably had the collection plates passed around like any other service. They just happened to be there. I'm so sick of everyone being offended by everything.
@Jensen1104, I get what you're saying for this situation, but Osteen is corrupt and is using the church to make money
@Jensen1104, Im not offended. I just call bullsh;t when I see it. The moment he said, "the city hadn't asked yet to take in hurricane victims". I knew he was up to no good. Im not a church goer or a very religious person. But I was taught differently. If someone seeks recognition when they give charity. Then their intentions are not sincere. True charity and goodwill want nothing in return and do so anonymously when it can. I define taking the lords name in vain as "someone who uses Gods name to make themselves feel or seem better than other people."
(The secret Santa you hear about that for years no one knew who it was because the guy didn't want anyone to know. That's an act of true kindness and charity.) This church leader showed his true motive the moment he phrased it in a manner that put the blame on the city.
Every religion of peace and love I have ever learned about welcomes those in need without being asked.
@Seohn, if you research he was told NOT to take in victims by the city. That's why he was waiting for the green light. Plus the church was midland flooded and he had to wait until it was pumped out. I don't like him, but I rather know the truth before I judge.
@Jensen1104, The truth is his words in the video I saw of him were that. He said the building was flooded and that the city had not asked him to take in victims. I judged based on the guys own words in the video I saw of him saying them. If he was waiting for the city to give them the green light. Then he wouldn't have used the phrase "The city hadn't asked me yet."
He would've said I was not allowed to and I was waiting for the OK from the city to start allowing people in. As you have said. But he didn't. You can learn a person's intentions simply by the way they phrase things. A person who isn't trying to hide the truth says exactly what the truth is. There's no accidental miss phrasing of it. You don't say, "the city hasn't asked me yet." If you were waiting for the OK to use it as a victim center.
@Seohn, I can't continue to argue because like I said, I don't like him but I know the truth.
@Jensen1104, if it was because the city told him it was unsafe. Then all he had to do was say I was waiting for the facility to be deemed safe to use for victims.
But he did not. His phrase was, "the city has not asked me yet."
Now this phrase makes it look like he wanted somebody to ask him before he allowed people in. These are words that came from his mouth and it makes him look bad. Regardless of what the truth is. The fact that he said it this way makes him look like the bad guy and just out for money.
Maybe he's just bad at phrasing things. Or maybe the true motives behind his words slipped. But phrasing things properly is everything.
@Captain Swordsman, we studied false prophets in our Bible class, one dude led his entire church to kill themselves by drinking some type of poison. Joel Osteen is a false prophet. Don't ask me why the heck I said this, I just felt like saying it lol
@Captain Swordsman, #captainswordsman
She may look like the bride of Chucky, but I bet she doesn't have that sexy voice.
@GunSupporter, Jennifer Tilly's voice is horribly annoying
@Aaron Leibowitz, oh I love it.
I kind of feel bad for him honestly. The picture I was of his church, the outside was under like 3 fvcking feet of water like everyone else's buildings. Why are they just dogging on him? Why would you want to go in a building that was flooded anyways?
@TheSecretSavage, the pictures I saw just showed his parking lots flooded, not the actual building inside. Also he said "I wasn't asked to help" or something along those lines as an explanation as to why he didn't open to church, which sounds like a dick thing to say especially if you're leading a church
@beer bong, in an interview, Osteen said it was 10' (I don't know if that's true or not, but the point is, they did have water outside the church). The building flooded badly during Katrina (before the church bought the building) and if it flooded now, they would've been responsible for any people inside.
Lakewood Church takes in $8 billion a year in tax exempt money.