Here’s the deal. US Soccer offered the Men’s team and Women’s team similar contracts in pay. The men agreed to a contract that was highly based on revenue generation- lower guaranteed wages, but potential for much higher pay as the team draws bigger crowds, merch sales, and sponsorship.
The women agreed to a contract that had much lower risk, but also lower reward. They chose stability over risk. The women received a higher base wage and a lower portion of revenue. The USWNT found much greater financial success than anticipated, but the contract didn’t give as big a portion of that success, so they weren’t paid as much.
@JDPhi, interesting and thank you for this factoid.
@JDPhi, this needs to be shown to the masses!
Kneeling for social justice next to your black teammate who is standing for the flag...
@Mag3rPayne, I actually think that’s completely acceptable. It shows that any person, regardless of skin color, has the right to have what political opinion they want. It’s just that Rapinoe is incredibly arrogant.
@Raki Zaki, for me, the problem is if our flag and national anthem isn't worth standing for, then you shouldn't be representing it.
@RogueKnight, our national anthem sucks... now free bird that’s a national anthem I can get behind
@bobbylupo, our national anthem is awesome. Read up on the battle it was about. It describes the resiliency and determination the American people can have, among other great things.
@RogueKnight, read up on jokes I think you’ll see that was one
@bobbylupo, my mistake. These days you can never really tell.
@bobbylupo, free bird and then the military uniform is tuxedo tshirts
@RogueKnight, it is actually 100% american to be allowed to kneel for the flag. Freedom of speech is in the bill or rights for a reason. You should support someone wanting more gun rights equally to someone kneeling during a flag presentation. Problem with americans is they believe rights should only be used when it fits their view of society.
@Implicit88, I don't mind them having a different point of view than mine. But don't represent the flag if you say it doesn't represent you. Activism doesn't belong in sports. Do it on your own time. The Olympics is supposed to avoid politics.
You know maybe if she and the rest of Women's Soccer team spent more time practicing instead of promoting endorsements (smirnoff, subway, and now Victoria Secret's Collective) and social issues, they may have won against Sweden and Canada and still had chance to win the Gold medal
I don’t disagree they should be paid more compared to the men. However, they got offered a contract similar to the men and said no. So they really need to be mad at themselves
@BigJohnson86, they make money, based on what they make for their bosses. More people watch men play team sports (except volleyball), so there's more money for players.
And the women and men were offered identical contracts for team usa. Men took high risk/reward, women went safe. Both teams would've made more money with the other contract.
@BigJohnson86, they shouldn’t get paid anything for being treasonous traitors. Anyone who kneels for the flag needs to get out or burn.
@BigJohnson86, They are paid based on views like the rest of the entertainment industry. Not our fault they are incredibly boring to watch.
@TheBigJ, they actually are a bigger draw and make more money than the men’s team. However they took a guaranteed money contract rather than a pay to play which would’ve paid them more. They got offered a contract like the men have but said no. They negotiated themselves a pay cut effectively
Soooo… what’s the context here?
@Pat Myckok, look up USA women’s soccer team and one of the top results is about them kneeling during the national anthem
@Pat Myckok, the woman in the pink hair was levering social pressure to get more money. Even though she makes more then her male counterparts. Even though they work more, get more veiws etcetera. She pushed so hard that she was put in front of a governmental committee to talk about how women aren't getting what they're owed.
Which made viewership go down even further.
Tldr; A greedy self-righteous narcissist, uses politics and vajayjay as an excuse to get more money.
@That one lurker, ok before I call her an a-hole, was she going in front of congress for herself, or for every other person in women’s soccer?
@Pat Myckok, they're all getting payed more then there male colleagues. There was three woman that stepped forward to speak to the governmental body.
I'm not 100% sure it was Congress. It could have been the UN.
I'm not sure which would be worse. In a way, think of this like the Nazis. They're all bad, everyone can recognize Hitler though.
( just as a pure analogy I'm not calling them literally Nazis. That would be both absurd and demeaning to those that both lost there lives, and carry scars from the Holocaust.)
(PPS. They still cünts thou)
@That one lurker, huh. Sounds dįckheadedish. Good analogy tho, I suppose that makes the people playing for the love of the sport the Wehrmacht
@That one lurker, You realize that they are substantially more popular than their male counterparts right? Like the fact that male sports teams have been payed more for ages and the go to explanation has been that they are more popular, so why shouldn’t they be payed more than their less popular counterparts?
@MrFabulist, except they arnt more popular. The women's team produces fewer views and thus less revenuethen the men's team. Another issue is that they are not payed with the same system. The men get more money for winning (but getting nothing if they lose). But the women have a base salary and benefits such as insurance (something the men don't). Ironically, they were given the option to get paid like the men, but rejected it in favor of the benefits
@That one lurker, there’s more than one way to monetize a vajayjay? I need to rethink my life
@Finndogs, that's not true at all about the men brining in more revenue. One of the more recent years, the women had a net of 5 mill brought in while the men lost 2 mill. The men's games usually bring in more dollars per game but they play way less games than the women. Granted, missing the world cup severely hurt the men's revenue. At the end of the day, the women did decide to go to a base salary which gave them a higher floor but lower ceiling. Both men and women should agree to a % of the revenue though imo. They can then clearly balance the salaries based on demand and then benefits/travel accommodations can be decided based on how much money is left
@That one Captain , The women’s team negotiated how they were paid in good faith. They rejected the men’s team pay scale for increased benefits the men didn’t have. When the women’s team won, they wanted to renegotiate the best of both contracts. That is simply bad faith and just makes them greedy and selfish.
@DFYANT, couple things. First, the men's team actually agrees with the women's team. Secondly, the women's team has been performing at a high level. It's logical they want a pay raise. It's the same as anyone regular job. If you are performing at a higher level then your counterparts, you expect to be paid for that performance.
@That one Captain , very true, but that only applies to negotiating the NEXT contract. All sides are obligated to follow the terms of the current contract, until it expires.
@That one lurker, I thought womens soccer players made less than their male counterparts, because theyre league doesnt earn like even 1/10th of what the normal male soccer team earns.
@CocoasBro, nope, women make more then the men, even on good years.
@That one lurker, actually youre wrong. The womens national team makes more but the club teams pay them way less than the men because it's way less popular. Their leagues pays shjt but they make around 200k on average playing for the national team annually which is more than the men make but they also play way more games. Per game women's national team players get payed around $4950 whereas men get $13166.
I dont think they should be going against a contract they agreed to but the next contract should be different.
Pretty simple. You get more views. You get paid more. It’s just entertainment
@Chucklenuts, exactly why female strippers make more $$$
Dont worry everyone. The woke female soccer team will taste their own medicine once a bunch of men decide to play as women, thus costing them their jobs.
I have been to the future, and its hilarious what happens to "womens" sports
Thanks to the US women's team for being too distracted by money and allowing us to win the gold. It doesn't hurt that we had a dude on our team too.
If I remember correctly didn’t come out that women were getting paid more? Correct me if im wrong
3 spot meme’s new format?
Correct me if I’m wrong… but didn’t the Swedish team also kneel?
And in terms of the pay increase;;; correct me if I’m wrong but the Americans woman’s teams have more gold medal wins than the Americans men’s team?????? Yea. If your winning you should get paid more & if you lose get paid less.
@Monter408, no. If you bring more paying fans to the table you should get paid more. If you run paying fans off, you deserve a pay cut.
@Monter408, if i recall correctly, the women (before complaining about not making as much money as men) essentially negotiated payment terms that gave them a guaranteed pay regardless of performance (so they get paid even if they lose the game) whereas the men don't get paid anything if they lose. Also, more people watch the men play than the women. Even if you're winning, if nobody is watching then how are you going to make any money from ticket sales to give to the players?
@Doctor Yak, I also find it weird people are so upset. If they want more money,,, let them get it. Who cares. It’s the same with scarlet Johansson. If she wants to get paid more even after her agreement more power to her.
@Hot Coffee, do you want the us to have the most viewers or the most wins. They are in professional sports. Not professional viewer accumulation. They compete to WIN not to get viewers.
@Monter408, yes they play to win the game, but without paying fans you're not generating enough money for the team ownership, and if ownership isn't making enough money, then you don't get a raise.
@Monter408, more viewers
Views determine the pay since more views means more revenue and more revenue means a larger pool to pay the players
@Monter408, it's one thing to request a raise from your employer, but she's going on a crusade to pressure her employers into paying her more than she's worth. That's more like extortion than it is requesting what you deserve based on your ability/value. And as for the whole "if they want more money, let them get it", if they're not doing anything to bring in value (i.e. viewers to advertise to and fans to buy tickets) then there is no money to give them.
@Monter408, they already make more money, just not when looked at on a “$ per game” scale. The women’s team makes a guaranteed salary and has benefits, the men’s team doesn’t. The reason the men get more per game is because that’s all the men get. Plus, the women negotiated for a larger guaranteed roster, which naturally decreases per game bonuses
@Doctor Yak, The full picture is that the men get performance based payment in the national team because they play for clubs that provide both guaranteed and non-monetary benefits, most of the women in the national team don’t play for clubs so they negotiated those benefits with the national team pay structure
@Doctor Yak, nah the men also get payed if they lose or draw just not as much as if they won but they get paid less in salary.
This isn’t a meme, this is a political attack cartoon
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