"Living at a hotel" is one of the top comments. Thought I might share
Not paying taxes.
Wearing ripped up ill fitting clothes.
Eating bugs, snails, and spoiled food
The awkward moment people realize rich welfare vastly outweighs poor welfare.
@Implicit88, but yet we keep voting in the same people that make the rich welfare programs (D’s and R’s) and refuse to go to flat tax.
@big freedom, flat tax would only help the rich even more, because they wouldn’t be required to pay their fair share. If I make 50k a year, I feel losing $5000. If I make 750k, I barely feel losing 75k. Make over a million, it’s nothing.
@griffinstorme, but a flat tax actually would make it fair. It's not like everyone should have to "feel it" the same when they pay their taxes. If anything it'd incentivize people to make more money so they "feel it" less when they pay taxes.
@griffinstorme, imagine you’re locked in a room. It’s freezing cold and someone comes in every month and beats the shît out of you.
Someone comes in and asks if you like to move to another room. Nobody ever beats you, but the temperature is slightly warmer than you’d like. But if you take that room, your neighbor gets an even better room.
You: Nah, I’ll stay here because in the other room it’s too warm, and I don’t want my neighbor to get a better deal.
Also you’re completely wrong about “fair share”. The rich, right now, literally write the tax code in their favor.
Flat tax, EVERYONE pays, so they have a vested interest in what the government does with their money!
@big freedom, yeah that wasn’t a great analogy.
I agree that we need tax reform because the rich do write the tax code (buying politicians and lobbying is disgusting), but our new tax code needs to be equitable.
@Doctor Yak, incentivise people to make more money lmao. Okay flat tax, everyone’s incentivised, now where are the 200 million jobs all paying 300k per year? Yeah, that’s not how it works.
Everyone should have to feel it the same. It’s this idea called equity.
@griffinstorme, it’s a great analogy thought up by someone way smarter than me.
And anytime someone says “fair share” I have to ask, what % of taxes do you think they do pay, and how much more should they pay?
@griffinstorme, equity is disgusting, and unfair. I shouldn't be punished for doing well and rewarded for doing poorly.
@Doctor Yak, progressive tax system does not punish people, using that logic any tax is a punishment.
@big freedom, a progressive flat tax would make filing easier and remove all loop holes. Similar to what we have now but 0 deductions or discounts. A purely fat tax would hurt everyone that isnt already well off. For example you would probably need around a 25% flat tax rate, someone making 50k a year would lose 12,500. Thats a huge chunk given that this person still has to pay for the cost of living. Someone making a million would lose 250k. However, they would be further well off. In addition, people that make more money use the govt far more
@Implicit88, who told you we would need 25%? Most economists say somewhere between 8-12% since we would broaden the tax base and remove loopholes. And all taxes are punitive. People that earn the most would still pay the most. People that earn less would keep more of their money than they do now so they win too.
The real rate of taxation is the rate of spending. Until we stop demanding our government give us “free” shît, we’re never going to stop stealing from our kids to pay for our debt.
@big freedom, removing loop holes may help. But it wont stop people like amazon paying 0%. Any company making over $1m in revenue should need to report GAAP to irs and pay taxes on that and there should be no accelerated depreciation of any kind allowed.
@big freedom, usually for the free stuff, what they really mean is change the way we pay for stuff. Free is meant at the point of service. For example, medicare for all would create 1 pool for insurance, one pool is better than the hundreds we have now as more subsidizing will occur. The more subsidizing the cheaper rates go.
@Implicit88, free college, free healthcare, free student loans... people think that this shît is free. And it typically is to the people that think that because they pay $0 federal income tax. If everyone pays in at the same rate, they have a vested interest in where that money is spent and how wisely it is spent.
And you’re wrong, “the more subsidized, the cheaper the rates go” 180 degrees opposite of the truth. Look at college tuition, billions poured in by fed, and rates skyrocket. More money in = more inflation = people spend it on BS diversity programs and administrative costs. Kids don’t learn more, there aren’t more teachers. It’s a fûcking scam and I’m paying for it.
@Implicit88, and the way you’re implying is to say: “have the government chose which options I’m allowed to ‘chose’ from. Eliminate free market economy and have state control my actions”
@big freedom, an example of why high earners and companies needs to pay a larger % of their income. A direct example if when tom bradys jersey was stolen, fbi went looking for it, if my shirt got stolen no fbi would be involved.
@Implicit88, they do pay more... so...?
You think you’ll eliminate corruption? How?
@Implicit88, I don't know about you, but if I'm told that someone is going to be taking a larger percentage of my earnings just because I did something to improve my position in life and earn more money, I'm going to look at that as punishment, especially if I'd get to keep a larger portion of my income if I made less money.
Also, the people paying the least in taxes would be using most of the welfare, so they'd effectively be living on everyone else's dime, and there's nothing to incentivize them to start supporting themselves. I'm fine with people getting help if they need it, but I'm not fine with people using welfare because they don't want to actually work and support themselves on their own.
That awkward moment when it’s too real to be funny
This would be better without the “tOo ReAl” thing
Cadillac’s, the state of Florida, having children.