isn't that just Spyware
@Captain Correction, but with extra steps
@FaceGhost, I was gonna edit my post to say that, haha!
@Captain Correction, discord has been doing this for years
@Ocaz, yea but u can hide it or at least show yourself as offline
@Ocaz, how does that make it any better
Zoom you rat bastard
Just use Zoom in a VM
@Boomhauer, or mobile
We can totally trust Zoom to spy on our background apps and hold that information and not store it or leak it. Yup. Totally.
Also, Hah! Jokes on you teach. I've always got multiple MATLAB windows, Chrome windows, Excel, Word, LaTex, and Steam open. Figure out which I'm using. You gonna give me shjt for doing thesis work while you're droning on slowly? Tough. I'm paying the people who pay you, speed it up a bit please.
Oh shjt Too fast! Slow it down!
@mas2de, screw MATLAB. Worst programming language I've ever learned.
@The real meowman, I like it by far the best out of MATLAB, Java, C, C++. I hate having to import classes to tell a computer how to do math. Basackwards to me and it infuriates me. Just let me do what I want to do. For that Matlab is perfect. No bs, just get to work. As an engineer, that is great.
Java is just dumb. C++ is better. It's basically Matlab but with the more computer programmer bs that I don't give 2 shjts about unless I want to adjust it.
I am interested in Python and I should be getting back into C++ a bit, but for now it's still Matlab for me.
I tried learning C first and hated it every time. First time I took Matlab it was much better, but I was still bad at programming. Now that I'm much better at it, I think I'm more likely to dabble in other languages too.
@mas2de, if math is all you're trying to do with it, then I think excel is the way to go
@The real meowman, Excel is much more limited and limiting than MATLAB. It's fine if it doesn't fit your use case. That's why there are so many different languages in the first place, to fit different use cases. But MATLAB is actually programming with most of the obnoxious crap removed and hidden but still available to change. Excel would be very difficult to implement a lot of what engineers need to do. Some of it may actually be impossible to do in Excel. The rest is just much easier to do in MATLAB. There is some stuff that's nice to work in Excel for though, definitely. If you're looking at tables and modifying them without complicated equations and functions, then Excel is absolutely the way to go unless you only want to look at 3 lines of code. But for aerodynamics simulations that plot each time step so you can see what the structure is doing... I mean, I hate myself but not so much that I'd want to try that in Excel. Or implementing machine learning or optimization math and
@mas2de, excel is actually a very powerful tool if you know what you're doing. I used excel a lot for many of my engineering courses in college and i still rely heavily on it today
...techniques, there are definitely valid reasons people don't use Excel for that.
Matlab is also nearly ubiquitous among engineers. And if you don't want to pay that MathWorks $ price tag, there's Octave. But there is a reason why so many engineers and engineering companies use Matlab. Same as for why so many use C++ and Python for certain fields and tasks too.
@The real meowman, It is very useful. I'm not shjtting on Excel at all, just in comparison for complicated coding tasks, Excel just isn't gonna cut it. Is it possible to do most of the same stuff that Matlab can? Sure. Is it as easy to do all that in Excel? Absolutely not. Is it easy to look at your table in Matlab, update it, fiddle with it and see the results and examine the data and the structure compared to Excel? Absolutely not.
@The real meowman, what engineering do you do BTW?
@mas2de, chemical engineering
So I mean on one hand it helps prevent cheating which is definitely rampant.
On the other hand it makes you feel like you're being violated because they have access to more of your information.
On the other hand if you're not doing anything wrong nothing really changes (you technically shouldn't have anything else open in class anyway)
On the other hand it feels like an invasion of privacy
Why is this bad? Edit: I genuinely didn’t know why this would be bad, but I see my comment came off as sarcastic. Sorry for the confusion!
@Monk of Sorrows, Because high schoolers like playing it fast and loose with their educations
@Monk of Sorrows, why is it good though? Sounds like invasion of privacy
@moneyeatnoodles, I don't need my college economics class to know I'm pr0n surfing
@Monk of Sorrows, because I get As in my classes despite not paying attention half the time browsing reddit or messaging freinds. I don't see why I should be penalized for the action of not paying attention. Just my grades I earn. Also, many apps have legit uses. I often rope in relevant information from wikipedia for example.
@moneyeatnoodles, it actually is. This computer isn’t school property, they shouldn’t have the ability to see anything going on with it.
@Monk of Sorrows, its Spyware with extra steps.
@moneyeatnoodles, I’d agree with you. I genuinely didn’t know why it would be bad.
@KingofFunnypics, i sorta understand for highschool students, although its still over the line. I wouldnt understand fir college students like your paying you cn do what u want.
Also side note fůck attendance
in college if u dont show up for a single class other then for test, show i know the information and give you all my homework give me the grade i deserve, dont mark me a grade down cuz i didnt show up for lecture. If i ace the test (which i always did) im practically proving to you tht it would have been a waste of my own time coming to class cuz your not teaching me anything i dont know already
@jerriest jerry , I did this for one of my physics classes. I took the AP course in high school and got a passing grade on the exam, but because the college course was engineering physics, the AP credit didn't count. I showed up a grand total of 5 times: first day, 3 tests, final exam. Got an A in the class.
It brings up more questions in context of school, considering they're likely using a personal computer.
On the other hand, if Zoom is used for work, then it's a bit of a different story, assuming you're using a company computer or an approved device. IT can already see what you do, and some businesses are going as far as tracking your Zoom/Teams activity as a means to determine your engagement and time on task in the work from home environment.
Thankful my employer is really chill about it considering most people have small and/or furry "coworkers" at home.
Look. This isn’t a popular opinion. But I went to school before internet was mandatory for life, shove these kids in class and teach them the right way before their generation hates all of us and destroys society...