"I need a safe space"
- Pussies at college who don't understand that's not how the world works
@Michael Fassbender, Guess you've never heard of Alcoholics Anonymous or Narcotics Anonymous or any other support group that helps people when they feel like they don't have control in their lives. Ever heard of battered women's shelters? That's a safe space, bro.
@Phaneron, needing a safe space from an abusive husband, dealing with alcoholism, or fighting addiction are all much different than wanting a safe place because someone wrote "Trump 2016" on a sidewalk.
@Phaneron, uhhhh....no. That's really not how those places work.
AA, etc are therapy for actual problems. Battered women shelters are a shelter for physically abused women.
Safe spaces are rooms with play dough an crayons for idiot college students to go to when they hear an opinion they don't like.
Getting physically abused is completely not the same as hearing a different opinion. The fact that you can even remotely equate the two shows what an ignorant and entitled life you've led.
Grow up, and stop believing you're special. You're not.
@talmet, huh I've never thought of the difference. My understanding of a safe space was just like an area that was set aside for people to engage with an aspect of their identity like race, gender, or sexuality. They are completely different from battered women's shelters and N.A. meetings. Safe spaces are kinda a cop out sometimes because instead of engaging with opposition and find a common ground or understanding you just say "Feelings hurt" and shut down that person, that's lazy arguing and counter productive. But I never thought people would equate help centers and areas for people with few resources with safe spaces that are usually done for comfort.
@talmet, oh my goodness, Should I call the police and report this murder?
@BRB, idiotic college students do it all the time.
They are spoiled entitled little children. I mean, a few years ago one woman claimed to be suffering from PTSD because someone on Twitter said "you're wrong."
@talmet, safe spaces are just kinda nice but a better thing would be to tell people to not be dicks
@BRB, and for kids to grow up so that they are capable of hearing differing opinions without breaking into tears.
@BRB, Well they operate under the same premise, right? Addiction, mental, and physical ability are also a part of people's identities. There's obviously levels to the urgency of the groups but that doesn't make one less important than another, or a cop out. Nobody is thinking, "Ah yes, let me head down to the BSU where EVERYONE agrees with me and nothing is ever annoying!" Or "Oh, oh holy crap my professor said something I don't agree with! Oh God, I need to find the counseling center!". No, it's more like "Wow, how cool a place where I can interact with my culture, something deeply important to me." And "Yikes, this lengthy discussion on sexual assault sure isn't doing my PTSD any favors, I should dip out and talk through this with someone."
(I don't mean to use SA and mental illness as tools to further my point BTW, just don't know how else to say what I need to)
@RodmanSupporter91, oh yeah, if people want to create a space instead of ignoring some stupid chalk art that's just dumb and a waste of time. I'm talking about mainly people who are actually going through stuff, not that BS.
@talmet, bro, first of all, I'm a straight white non-trans dude. I deal with moronic special snowflake pieces of garbage every day, so I don't think I'm special at all. The universe is a big place, and I'm basically not really that important that I need to be pandered to by everyone else like some people think they should be. The safe spaces I'm referring to, for example, are for members of the LGBT+ community that deal with bullying, getting beaten up, having an abusive family that they have to pretend to love because they're funding the person's education, et cetera. If people can't hear another opinion, regardless of where they are politically, without freaking out, they're the ones dragging everyone down because they aren't open to change, understanding, or open discussion.
@BRB, again, safe spaces can be used as areas of comfort and refuge for people who are in a situation they can't help but need support. I'm not saying that college safe spaces are necessarily a real life equivalent or have the same impact as NA or AA, but OP originally implied that there's no such thing as a place in "real life" where a person can seek that understanding.
@talmet, screw anyone who says they have a mental disorder that actual people suffer from on a daily basis. It's disrespectful and invalidates people like soldiers who actually suffer from it. These people who fake it are in a large minority to 1. People who actually have it who we should be paying attention to and not some attention seeking moron on Twitter and 2. People who know its BS. People only seem to want to bash those people instead of trying to spread awareness about how that attitude is harmful and disrespectful to actual sufferers. Don't shut someone else down, start a conversation, because that leads to understanding, and understanding leads to sympathy. Maybe if we passed a little more of that around there would be less dumbass Twitter complainers.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , that's kinda what I was getting at. Just because AA and NA and other programs aren't as urgent as some issues college students are going through, they're comparable in a lot of ways.
@Phaneron, And about people just trying to "escape different opinions" or whatever BS, why do people think their opinion is so important that EVERYONE should HAVE to hear it ALL THE TIME? That's just a confusing thought process to me, not everyone cares what you have to say, is going somewhere where they don't have to hear it really such a crime?
@KeKesUHaulFacility , if different opinions were being forced on people, then maybe I could understand you....
But that is not what occurs on a college campus. They set up safe spaces when people come in to give speeches. If you don't want to hear the speakers opinion, then don't go to the speech. It isn't being forced on everyone on campus. If seeing a poster announcing a speech by someone you don't like is enough to send you into tears, then you need professional help and should be in an institution.
@talmet, Yall always describe situations that like, never happen.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , incorrect, it happens all the time.
Look into the outcry after students wrote "Trump 2016" in chalk on the ground at different college campuses.
Or look into what has happened at Milo...something speeches. It's part of a tour he's giving, called the "dangerous F@gg0t" tour (he's gay, and he named it).
@KeKesUHaulFacility , A few weeks ago, some students called 911 because someone had written "Trump 2016" on the ground in chalk and they were "terrified" and "felt violated."
@talmet, When you look deeper into the situation and consider what kind of people support trump so vigorously it makes sense to have such a volatile response when POC students are saying that they get harassed by white students, accosted by drunken frat boys, have to fight tooth and nail to get racist symbols off the campus. Like, maybe they just have more foresight than you and are more worried about what's to come. If I saw that at my school I'd be terrified too, shjt, might as well have passed put fliers for Klan rally.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , dude...trump is not in the klan. And according to most recent polling he's statistically tied with Clinton in the general.
If just seeing his name is enough to terrify you, then what are you going to do if he is actually elected?
Nothing that Trump has said is a violation of the law.
-he wants to deport illegal immigrants: guess what? That's federal law already.
-he wants to build a wall: guess what? That was passed by congress back in the 90s and signed into law by Bill Clinton. A wall is required by federal statue, the thing is that only about 1/3 has been built.
-he wants to stop Muslims from immigrating into America: guess what? By federal statue and US Supreme Court decision, the president has unilateral authority to stop any group for any reason for any length of time from immigrating into the country.
If you are going to believe that anyone who supports following federal law is a racist, then you're in for a surprise.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , /exactly/
@talmet, He's not a racist, he's pandering to low income white people amd using religious and racial groups as scapegoats. I don't fear him or his supporters, I pity them.
@Swagneto, then explain why he won commanding victories throughout the richest countries of Connecticut last week?
Explain why his poll numbers show him winning among highly educated? Or why he wins Hispanics, Asians, African Americans, and women in almost every poll?
If you've fallen for the media narrative that only poorly educated white men support trump, then I'm sorry for you. Never take what the media says at face value.
@talmet, Alright fair enough, more people are stupid than I thought.
@Swagneto, true enough, education =\= intelligence
@King Spunkmonkey, "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education." -Mark Twain
@talmet, You really don't get it. It's not about his chances of winning, it's not about what he is and isn't allowed to do, it's barely even about him. It's about his effect on everyone else, and how if he's allowed to win on a platform of white supremacist ideals then all the ugliness that people like you think went away in the 60s is going to have a resurgence. It's not him, it's the idea of him stirring up overt racism and making any space that idea enters fundamentally unsafe for marginalized people.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , nothing he has said is racist, and it is everything he's said is required by federal law passed by congress and signed into law by democrat presidents.
@talmet, He could deadass say he hates people with brown skin and you would cape for him...
@KeKesUHaulFacility , I don't support trump...and I don't think he should be president. But he hasn't proposed anything that is racist, or that violates federal law. Most of his policies boils down to "we should follow the law".
@talmet, Then why are you riding his dick so hard
a) I'm not, and you're gross.
b) grow up and stop being an idi0t.
c) disagree with Trump all you want, hate him as well. But you should do it for actual reasons, not made up crap.
@talmet, How is not wanting the white supremacists of the nation to be encouraged not a real reason? Aren't you not white? I feel like I've seen you say that, if so, you know those weirdos are gonna be out for brown blood, you know it!!
@KeKesUHaulFacility , unless you also hated the occupy wallstreet movement (which was openly supported by the KKK) then it's a pretty hypocritical reason.
Correct, I'm not white. But I don't base my own opinions on what weirdo freaks want.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , oh, you should also hate the BDS movement as well. And the Red Cross. Both of those organizations are supported by the KKK too.
@talmet, The Klan isn't the only white supremacist organization in the country, also the modern Klan is a bunch of pansies anyway so I'm not worried about them, it's the lowkey ones you gotta keep an eye on
@KeKesUHaulFacility , so, you're ok with supporting organizations that the klan likes, but you hate trump because supposedly they like trump?
As I said. Hypocrit.
@talmet, I said white supremacists, I never mentioned the klan
@KeKesUHaulFacility , because the klan isn't a white supremacy group? How about neo-Nazi's? They also supported occupy wallstreet, and the BDS movement.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , oh nice now calling all whites wierdos.....your worse than trump.
@DwIsRox, Man, go suck on ya momma titty since you wanna be a baby about shjt so bad
@KeKesUHaulFacility , lol shouldn't this be my safe space that your advocating so badly....I'm so scared of all y'all brown wierdos wanting white blood..😘
Are you calling my mum a liar
Well...that was subtle *weeps*
But your mom was special in bed last night ;)
"Welcome to depression cafe...*sigh* Sit wherever you want...it's not like it matters...*sigh*"
So if nothing is special, and I'm not special, then I'm not nothing. Wait.. What?
@Mit, if you're not nothing, then you're something. Somethings are special. But you're not special. So you're nothing. Because nothing is special. But if you're nothing, and you're not special, then you're not nothing. So if you're not nothing, then you're something. And somethings are special. But you're *gets shot*
@ Officer Shaft, exactly. *sips coffee*
*sighs* Thanks for noticing me at least...