I can hear the back door abortions already
@AndorraBall, on the upside, coat hanger stocks are going to be reaching records highs in select states pretty quick. It’s a good investment opportunity.
@AndorraBall, if they’d used the backdoor in the first place, they wouldn’t be in this situation...
@Pubmarine Shamwich, your comment is gold good sir
@AndorraBall, silly, you can't get preganonanant in the butt
@Dr TalleyWacker, Carl Wheezer did, dont be fooled
@Dr TalleyWacker, but you can get gregnat from it.
@AndorraBall, they probably better than the ones from the good ol days
@AndorraBall, the coat hangar industry will be thriving!
Pro-abortion people: “If you make it illegal people will do it anyways”
all gun owners: rolls eyes
@tmo0792, also... heart cells, specifically myocytes, beat independently in a petri dish and are NOT a sign of intellegent human life... so, can you tell us when exactly it acquires a soul and is it really murder if it's still just a tadpole?
@StereotypicalAnomaly, so what do you consider alive then? Brain activity begins (probably sooner) at 5 sometimes 4 weeks in the womb. What other excuses do you have to justify the sickness? You do realize that abortion originated to cut out the African American population right?
@tmo0792, nice deflection from my question... "When exactly does the zygote/embryo acquire a soul?" So... are you asserting that brain activity, which at that stage of development amounts to electrical impulses, is evidence of intelligent human life with a soul? And as for you statement that "abortion originated to cut out the African American population"... Preposterous as the notion that the earth is flat... As if no other civilizations existed before 'Murica! Sorry kid but that one is an utter fallacy.
@StereotypicalAnomaly, I like you.
@MaBawlsItch, I see by looking at your profile that you have 3 uploads... which is 3 more than I have been allowed, and not for a lack of effort either so... pretty sure I like you too... and thank you.
@tmo0792, you can't argue with pro abortion people. They use rape and incest as an excuse when it's like 1% of abortions. They say it's a clump of cells. The truth is they want to be able to terminate a pregnancy because its inconvenient no matter the reasoning.
@CrazyRightWinger, what's 1% of all abortions? I would like to know what you believe it is.
Maybe yall should close your legs and pull your zippers up and stop being irresponsible. Sorry pieces of sh*t
@tmo0792, This also prevents rape victims from seeking this option.
@Bawes, I’m curious, what’s the ratio of rape victims to irresponsible dumb people who want to use it?
@Bawes, again less than 1%
@tmo0792, how 'bout some good ol' fashioned sex education that works and doesn't teach kids that abstinence is the only way? People are going to have sex. Kids (and even adults) need to be taught how to do it safely, which states like Alabama refuse to do.
@tmo0792, "Banning abortion is to protect the baby, but if irresponsible, immature teens have a baby they clearly can't care for, the baby has to pay for it."
@tmo0792, You ignore what I said. Perhaps the point was to look for a solution instead of just lumping everyone in one group and I am curious where you got that statistic.
@Yamisilaas , You ignored all of what I said.
@tmo0792, I have to agree with you quite a bit. Lack of self-control is a serious problem keeping humanity from progressing past a point. But it's a problem on all fronts. And we can't stop it by getting angry or banning everything. If you believe there is a better way, you have to show that it's better. Otherwise you will only ever meet resistance.
And I don't want to discourage resistance.
@Empshok, I've said this before instead of planned parenthood how about we fund actual sex ed classes instead of just throwing condoms out and saying here ya go have fun and try to be careful I guess. No we dont because deep down peoples sinful nature do not want to be safe. They do not want to practice abstinence. They want to have fun and take no responsibility for their actions
@tmo0792, as a Christian, I have to say I am disappointed. Do you think God wants any of His children damned? These children will grow up believing that nobody cares about them. They might bitterly hate their parents and anybody that fits a parental role. Should those children be punished for this?
To sin, you have to commit to follow a doctrine and rebel. Until such a time as that happens, we have to compensate for our imperfections to protect others and ourselves.
To err is human. To repent, to forgive...that is divinity.
@Empshok, you obviously do not know scripture. You are born a sinner in need of repentance. Clearly you havent read basically any doctrine at all? I'll just list some for you to take a look at. I'm not sure how you can say you are a Christian and not believe the Bible? Proverbs 22:15, John 3:3, all of Roman's 7 and most of the entire book. You are not a sinner because you sin. You sin because you are a sinner. Unless you recieve Christ and repent of your sins you are not His child.
@tmo0792, by that idiotic logic ghandi is in hell right now
@tmo0792, Hey guys, over here, we got an imaginary friend fight. 🍿👀
@Bawes, I was just asking a question
@Yamisilaas , Not really. As I said before you completely ignored what I was saying. It shouldn’t matter the % as much as the fact it happens. If you really wish to know please do google it, but from my perspective you put burden of proof on me for a question you created that ignored my point entirely.
@tmo0792, oh, I know my scriptures. If you think the Bible is infallible, you have not been paying attention to the number of denominations that have arisen from the KJV version alone.
One verse can be readily interpreted many different ways when taken out of context.
God is just; and parables clarify that to mean fair. He cares not about outward appearance, but what is in our hearts. Our desires and our choices, based on what we have been given, are the main criteria.
If the god you worship judges solely on baptism, sending pedophile priests to heaven and unbaptized babies to hell, then you, like the Pharisees have missed the point of Christianity: Love, for God and each other, is the basis of all the law and the prophets. I've actually taken university courses on the Bible. Would you like to see my transcript?
@tmo0792, okay but also: it doesn’t affect you in any way shape or form. So stop preaching and pushing what you think is right on people. If I wanna kill my baby in the womb then fvck you I’m gonna do it
@Empshok, I'm not even talking about the KJV I actually study the Hebrew and the Greek and use version that are most closely translated to that. Baptism is not required, only the repentance of sins and acceptance of Jesus Christ as your savior. And yes I would like to see them again because you know nothing of the Bible if you believe what you originally said. That is the only way into heaven Jesus said it himself. Heres a word I'd like you study mister Bible course man Kenosis. Philippians Chapter 2. We are nothing without God. If you do not accept him and repent you are not going to heaven. Study John 3:16 in its original Greek form. You'll understand what I'm talking about.
@The Golden God, right, and me murdering my neighbors doesn't affect you either, so it's fine right? Don't be an idiot.
@MaBawlsItch, having gone to public school in Alabama, we were taught everything from abstinence to condoms and birth control to rape and STD’s. Our health class covered all of it
@blueguy10168, hey if your neighbors are in your body and microscopic in size you do you bud
It's not that it isn't funny at all, but it IS political and that is an automatic downvote. Also try adoption, nobody says you have to keep anything
@Medic135, too bad the adoption system is ass
@Dexios S Divine, yes that's a reason to deny life entirely, you've defeated me
@Medic135, didn’t deny anything, its just ass
@Dexios S Divine, I personally think it should be privatized and charity funded, the government can't do anything right
@Medic135, shame theres more talk on stopping abortions over just making current systems better. Taking something away with no replacement solves nothing
@Dexios S Divine, I'm not sure if you and i are on the same page but I think we're close... Like I agree that if this is removed as a form of birth control (as it should be in my opinion) then not only should adoption and fostering be worked on with the money that is saved, but I think it's INSANE that young men are denied vasectomies but young women are encouraged to have abortions. One is clearly more responsible and if you're an adult what does it matter
@Medic135, im against removing any option entirely. Some things are just needed when theres nothing else. What good is forcing a pregnancy going to bring really other than a highly possible useless adult in the long run. Improve foster homes and adoption, encourage women to go through with pregnancies knowing they can just let the child go somewhere better and wanted. I prefer more morally good options, but its naive to me to consider morally bad ones as bad options
@Dexios S Divine, I don't entirely agree, although you have a decent opinion and I like most of it tbh. My only grief is the possibly useless adult, to end the life before you see how useful/useless it is would remove all hope of a good outcome. But still help adoption and other options for incapable families definitely
@Medic135, im logistical more than emotional really. I look at the average not the outliers. With the current system, adoption and fosters breed more criminals or welfare leeches. I’d rather fix the bulk of an issue that could branch out and solve other problems over trying to remove or add things to outlier situations
@Dexios S Divine, I hear you and appreciate that train of thought, I however don't find valuing human life above perceived quality of life to be illogical. But that all stems from my opinion that an unborn child is still a child and therefore completely innocent, I don't however think you're totally wrong you have a good take
There’s always the rusty metal coat hanger tours
@Baltowolf12, Please make sure your coat hangers are rust-free.
@Jdrawer, maybe soak them in acid
@Baltowolf12, Acid /does/ remove rust!
@Jdrawer, maybe try the lava factory next door
It won’t last long just let the Supreme Court deal with these worthless idiots
Ya can still go to other states for an abortion. Ya can still get an abortion.
@BlazingBowman, can’t ever come back though, if you leave the state to get one then it’s considered conspiracy to commit murder
@megamanx181x, false. It makes it illegal to perform an abortion but not to recieve one.
@BlazingBowman, double check the propose law of Georgia HB841. “Even women who seek lawful abortions out of state may not escape punishment. If a Georgia resident plans to travel elsewhere to obtain an abortion, she may be charged with conspiracy to commit murder, punishable by 10 years’ imprisonment. An individual who helps a woman plan her trip to get an out-of-state abortion, or transports her to the clinic, may also be charged with conspiracy. These individuals, after all, are “conspiring” to end of the life of a “person” with “full legal recognition” under Georgia law.”
@megamanx181x, yeah i typed in georgia hb41 into google and the first thing that came up wasnt about abortions it was a tax on video games... you sure you got that code right?
@BlazingBowman, HB481 my bad
@megamanx181x, yeah it didnt say any of that. Maybe im just an idiot but atleast as far as i can tell atleast that specific page ( pg27 of god knows how much) it specifically talks about how doctors need to inform women that their. Babies have a heartheat, and that doctors need to check for the heartbeat. If they fin said heartbeat they cant abort. Atleast that page didnt mention any legal repercussions that i saw at all.
@megamanx181x, atleast not in specifics.
@BlazingBowman, you sir are never an idiot, it’s either further down or they are also tying to push those stipulations in there as well. I read it on slate.com
@megamanx181x, so i looked this up on polifact ( as far as im concerned a left biased source) and it says the bill in georgia is silent on the fact that women could be prosecuted. And by silent mean they say it makes no mention of the specifics of women being prosecuted. The only ones specifically mentioned are the doctors. Atleast according to polifact.
@megamanx181x, so i should be clear that polifact does go out of its way to say that women arnt mentioned which means they didnt exempt them from prosecution either.
@megamanx181x, well it is murder so yeah it should be
@tmo0792, just because a person has a heartbeat, that doesn't mean they're alive. A person is considered legally dead if there is no brain activity.
@MaBawlsItch, well considering a baby has brain activity at 5-6 weeks in the womb it still alive so I'm not sure what you're getting at
@tmo0792, the "Brain activity" you're referring to isn't what we consider to be human consciousness at that stage, the same as if someone was legally brain dead. That's what I'm getting at.
@MaBawlsItch, lol I just cant fathom how people think it's okay to kill babies. Take the blinders off. Abortion even originated to cut out the African American population. It's insane how brainwashed people are. Keep grasping at straws trying to justify the wrong
@tmo0792, let's say any form of brain activity for a growing fetus is considered a person. Does that mean they should get a social security number? If the mother has a miscarriage, can she be charged for murder? If she gets into an accident and loses her baby, is that considered involuntary manslaughter? Can the mother take out a life insurance policy on the fetus and collect if she has a miscarriage if it isn't considered murder?
@MaBawlsItch, that argument is completely asinine. That's like saying a mother is driving her kid to school and has a wreck and the child dies she should get charged with murder. Completely asinine. If this is your logic then I dont even want to have a discussion with you. The mother didnt do anything to the child.
@tmo0792, if the mother decides to keep the baby but her state doesn't provide the affordable resources she needs for check ups and other appointments for the fetus, can the state be charged with child neglect and murder if the baby dies in the womb? Should the lawmakers be charged? The woman?
@tmo0792, if the accident is the mother's fault and the child dies, she can absolutely be charged with involuntary man slaughter when the law finds it appropriate.
@MaBawlsItch, that literally will never happen and if it does it's no where near the same as abortion. Again completely asinine to compare a car wreck to abortion.
@tmo0792, I just can't fathom how people think that a fetus is a baby. I just can't fathom how people think they have the right to make decisions for the lives of complete strangers. Specially, when they are not planning to be responsible at all for the future and well being if the fetus is carry to term and is born. You won't help the mother monetarily, you won't help the mother take care of the baby, you won't help if the child gets sick, you won't help with anything at all. It's easy to yell "OMG they killing babies, do something" but you won't be doing anything to help that child.
@mayora13, I just cant fathom that you have no idea what you're talking about. I have done plenty to help those children and mother who chose not to kill their child. My church even has a special program that assists women with: clothing, food, shelter, etc. I give to charity countless amounts of times. So I don't want to here your degrading comments. I will continue to help those in need. I cant fathom the fact that you dont even know who I am and assume that I'm a terrible person. I'm not the one supporting the killing of babies because people dont want to be responsible. I'm sorry you cant fathom basic anatomy and biology to know that it's a baby and not just a fetus, but it is. Abortion was started to blot out the African American population. I guess you cant fathom history either.
@tmo0792, I never said that you are a terrible person.
Until the fetus is born and takes it's first breath, it's not a baby.
We can refer to them as babies, but technically they aren't.
A fetus is not even viable for life outside the womb until at least over 5 months.
Donating does not equate to personally taking responsibility for the mother or the child.
Right now there's at least 400k children on foster care. Of those there's at least 60k who are waiting to be adopted. At least 10k age out of foster care without permanent families and are more susceptible to a life of homeless. This are the actual babies and children who we should be worrying about.
You don't support the killing of babies because people don't want to be responsible. So what? What is it to you? You are not the one doing it.
Abortions are not going to stop just because you don't like them. Woman have been having abortions since ancient times.
@mayora13, the problem is the people. Stop having sex before marriage and/or before your ready. Sex isnt a thing that has to happen. You can believe it is a child or not all you want, if that's what helps you sleep at night but it is. It was for 10000s of years, but you think that the truth is relative when it's not. "Hey let's believe this bat sh*t crazy woman that wanted to exterminate the African American population and make what she says is absolute truth so that we can go around and bang who we want with no consequences." Also the "what's it to me" thing is completely asinine. I guess if Joe wants to rob a bank, shoot someone, or beat the sh*t out of his dog, it's okay because it doesnt affect me and I'm not the one doing it. That's your thought process. Evil is evil and it shouldnt be tolerated. Also 400k is a stretch but even then how about we stop funding these illegal immigrants and abortion and take that money and actually help those kids who need families. How about we stop
@mayora13, making it impossible for people to adopt. You literally have to have like a 150k a year income as household to adopt in most states. There are also a lot more stipulations as well. Again it all boils down to the wickedness of man "it is a poverty that a child must die in order for you to love your life as you please" -Mother Theresa. Truth isnt relative.
@tmo0792, it's not asinine. If Rob is hurting a living breathing concious human, or an animal that is when you intervene. A human who has a family and friends and would have an actual impact on the world. That is the whole point. What hasn't been borne and what already has.
@mayora13, like I said whatever helps you sleep at night. So you're okay with supporting a practice that started to abolish an entire population? Also I havent even mentioned this. Women who have an abortion are almost 200% more likely to get breast cancer. Like I said why cant we teach just not to have sex before marriage or you're ready to have kids? There is literally no downside to it. Its because people dont want to stop living carelessly. They want to do the selfish thing