I thought someone was going to die on multiple occasions and I'm not sure if I'm relieved or disappointed
@Bigm222, Is being both bad? 😐
@Bigm222, pretty sure motorcycle dude is now a potatoe in the absolute best case
@Bigm222, Spoiler alert, geez
@Bigm222, the dude trying to fight the guy in the truck almost got shot. Rightly so too
Some of these are fvcking wild good God
@The Gay Gatsby, you may need a comma
@FrostArcher, commas are for pussies
@The Gay Gatsby, commas, the difference between helping your uncle jack, off a horse, or helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Yeah that guy on the motorcycle in the garage probably doesn't have a throat anymore. He probably swallowed his own Adam's apple...
Natural selection at its finest
My alarm paused this at a terrible time. The kid riding his bike over his friends looks like his spine should be broken.
@Rowule, his spine SHOULD BE broken
Okay, so I don't know the situation, and I think the dude is probably just drunk, but.... is pulling a gun on someone for throwing their drink at your car overkill? I think so!
@derkthederp, er, the dude who threw their drink is probably drunk, not the driver
@derkthederp, nah, don't need to waste my time fighting a drunk
@derkthederp, also it's probably staged
@derkthederp, they guy was posturing as though he wanted to square up and fight. That's essentially a threat. If I were in his shoes I'd pull out my gun with the intention to intimidate drunk idiot to get the fvck out of my way like this driver did. If he actually started pulling the trigger over this, absolutely, overkill. But the idea is intimidation and preparation. If drunk dude decides to stay there and actually try to fight you, you tell him to turn around/stay there/back up and he doesn't, then you start getting into the twilight zone of do I pull the trigger especially if I'm not physically capable of beating drunktard or do I put my gun away and try to beat the shjt out of him? You gave him ample warning to back off and he still kept pursuing you, depending on where you live a judge might rule self-defense, otherwise it'll probably be ruled as manslaughter. Still, pulling a gun on someone threatening you with violence in order to intimidate into submission is acceptable imo
@derkthederp, well if they are going to damage your property and behave in a threatening, aggressive manner, pulling your gun out is the appropriate response.
@Sven and Otar, I was raised in a military household, where you don't point a gun at someone unless you intend to pull the trigger. While, yeah, I get your point, I just don't think it's right to use a firearm against an unarmed man.
@derkthederp, even if it is just to intimidate
@derkthederp, dude, no. The rule is don't point a gun at something unless you'd be willing to pull the trigger (father was a weapons specialist on his SF team. I was just plain old Infantry). Not necessarily intention, willing, as in, if I have to, I will. If beer for brains ends up with a bullet in him somehow against my choosing purely because my weapon was aimed at him, I'd regret that outcome but feel no remorse for his Darwin Award-level behavior. Unarmed people with no regard for their safety are a threat to your life, if putting the fear of God into them with a firearm aimed at them doesn't make them run or stop in their tracks, I'd argue you're completely morally in your rights to shoot if you so choose, weapon or no just like a cop would be
@Sven and Otar, I guess I'm just another young idealist who thinks that all problems can be resolved peacefully. I mean, I know that's not true, but it would be great if it was
@derkthederp, my goal with the firearm would be to avoid violence to myself and, ideally, to him as well. It's completely his fault for being an idiot and not running so long as I give him the chance to
@HSA, I would suspect so because in most states it's illegal to have a loaded firearm in your vehicle, so in this particular instance, unless this guy is *super* fast and in practice at loading his weapon, it is probably staged. Still, in this situation I'd feel completely justified in pulling out my weapon to intimidate if need be
@Sven and Otar, I suppose that's true, but there are better resolutions than threatening to shoot someone. While, yeah, in this situation it would be kind of difficult to drive away, because the aforementioned idiot is standing in front of his car, I just feel like it's wrong to use the threat of violence as a deterrent to violence. It's like having a nuke, so that nobody else who has nukes will use them on you, because of mutually assured destruction. I personally wish that human beings would stop being idiots and attacking each other, but, once again, I'm a teenage idealist, who wishes the world were perfect.
@derkthederp, most can and should be, but someone threatening you who's drunk probably won't even care if you're a bigger guy, and unless you're UFC level of skilled in fighting, you'll probably get banged up in the process. Therefore it's much better to have a hyper escalation of force to show you mean business when you say, "back off!" That should break through the haze of drunken thoughts and initiate a flight response. This way, nobody gets hurt, everybody walks away free to go about their business. If he still comes after you in spite of this, he's probably nuts and/ has a weapon and it's safer to eliminate him before he hurts you and others. Pure pacifism does not work in most situations where violence is likely, you have to be a little more utilitarian in approaching these types of situations
@Sven and Otar, if you have a ccw, you can't keep a loaded gun on you?
@Sven and Otar, you know, this is kind of off topic, but I really appreciate how you're actually arguing in a calm and clear way, instead of just going off and calling me a fool. So, thumbs up for not being a jerk, even though we have differing viewpoints on a situation
@derkthederp, my response isn't because I'm one of those people, I truly do wish my fellow man would stop hating one another for stupid ideas, but so long as this is the case, I have to be prepared to fight back if my safety or the safety of others is on the line. I think of violence as being absolutely necessary whenever you have a situation analogous to the train dilemma where inaction means more people get hurt, but taking action means fewer. Most people will not take action because then they're directly responsible for the damage that is done (i.e. One person is dead), but I argue inaction is worse because you had the power to save more people but out of a selfish desire to not have blood on your hands you chose to do nothing (i.e. Five people are dead) and I'd argue that their blood is actually on your hands because you could've saved them but chose not to.
@derkthederp, in this situation, you can logically conclude that if the drunk dude is not intimidated by your firearm, then he is the absolute most dangerous a human can be, angry, threatening, and without fear. What's to say he won't try and kill you or others? It's safer for everyone if you pull the trigger and neutralize the threat
@HSA, on your person, but not in your car
@HSA, you know... I've actually just done the whole keep my weapon unloaded when I enter a car thing my whole life ever since I was a kid because it was illegal at the time out of habit. I've actually never thought about checking if I can keep my handgun loaded in the car or not
@derkthederp, I firmly believe in the free exchange of ideas. I believe debate and discussion to be a meritocracy where the good ideas and arguments succeed and the bad ones fail, but the only way to make good conversation and expand someone's mind and thoughts is by engaging them if they're willing to engage
@Sven and Otar, I would think you could, it would be odd to have to load and unload each time you got in/out of your car. There would be so many more accidental discharges
@HSA, I don't know about accidental discharges unless you're an absolute idiot and have zero trigger discipline. But I do know for a fact if you don't have a ccw, outside of muzzleloaders, you have to unload your weapon to enter a vehicle in most states I've been to. And even if you don't, I'm 95% positive they still require you don't have a round in the chamber which would mean it'd be simpler unload most bolt-action firearms and hunting rifles anyway so it's still at least partially enforced if you don't have a ccw in most places
@Sven and Otar, right, I'm talking with ccw, also I personally know two different idiots who have managed to shoot themselves in the toe and thigh, it's a lot more common than it should be but really any idiot can get their hands on a gun
@HSA, that's why while I'm very much pro-2nd amendment, I'd support a small tax increase on firearms purchases to fund free to attend gun safety courses that allows for a decrease in life insurance costs or perhaps a small tax credit if you attend and complete these classes. This would not only provide people with the opportunity to learn how to operate firearms safely, but also incentivizes them to do so
@Sven and Otar, the only thing I would change is instead of incentivize, require.
@HSA, but see then we're violating an individual's right to keep and bear arms. Like I'm also for a one time background check as well, but we do have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to the government having the authority to regulate who can and cannot use their rights. I believe firearms are dangerous enough that they should obviously be regulated and I believe that it is too easy for a crazy person to get a solid people killer in many places and I think a well-unforced background check law should be in place. Beyond that, zero actual regulation because it's mentally sane people's right. I used to be in your boat until relatively recently, but this is one of those slippery slope arguments that actually has some serious validity to it
@Sven and Otar, on its own it doesn't violate any rights, it's that damn slippery slope that has everyone caught up on just about every issue in politics today, no one is willing to give an inch
@HSA, no, there is a solid precedent for this issue in particular. Like Germany gives the people the right to keep and bear arms, but they have so much regulation about it that there's almost no gun ownership outside a handful of hunters in Bavaria and a gun collecting community.
@HSA, the rest of the issues aren't in gridlock because of slippery slope necessarily, but complete closed mindedness on both sides of the isle
@Sven and Otar, I wasn't saying there isn't such a thing as slippery slope, just venting my displeasure at it
@Sven and Otar, In most states a loaded pistol is fine but a long gun is not
Quite frankly either way within seconds I can take my unloaded 1911 slap a mag in and pull the slide release
Not hard to do so
@carguy25, I was simply saying that in this instance, the speed he went from gesturing a sort of "aww, come on!" To drawing his weapon pretty much meant he either had the weapon fully loaded and chambered already or simply just had to chamber a round. As for the loaded pistol in a car it's true in most states, however in PA (where I live) it is not unless you have essentially the concealed carry permit or the vehicle belongs to someone who has one. Like you can't have it on your hip, on the dash, or the seat next to you even unloaded except for the drive directly to and from a shooting range or Federal Firearms Licensee. Once you get the license you're free and clear to go wherever you please with a handgun loaded or unloaded in your car
@Sven and Otar, that's crappy
But I'd still have my ccw anyway
I plan on getting mine as soon as I can
Coming from living in the getto before
I've had my fair share of bad encounters and I'm short and weedy so perfect target
But I'm planning on moving out to the country and like it there much better anyway so I usually have to worry about either bears or wolfs, and the occasional meth head up there
@carguy25, living in the country in most places you usually only have to worry about bears and even then, I've only encountered one in my life on a walk in the woods and my dogs were enough to scare him off. Being that I currently live in the middle of nowhere where my closest neighbor is a cattle farm and a mile and a half away, I think I can speak from a certain level of expertise that unless you're living around the northern part of the mid-west you probably don't have to worry about wolves all too often. The southern part of the nation has cougars and the like. But honestly those are really the only wild animal threats out here. Methheads are incredibly rare, I've met one person who later on became hooked on meth, but the biggest threat you're likely to face is the bear and for that you'll want something that packs a punch so I'd recommend starting off learning the mechanics of pistol shooting with a .22 or 9mm and work your way up to .357 or .44
@carguy25, right, you already said you had a 1911. Nevermind. But you still may want to buy a heavy .44 or a .357 if you're really looking for an emergency anti-bear weapon
@Sven and Otar, I'm in the northern mid west I see them all the time along with bears
I shoot avidly and have a 357 that I'm planning on keeping on me up there for this exact reason anyway lol
@carguy25, like I'm not a hardcore "prepper" by any means (in fact I hate that term because people assume bunker/compound builders and think that they're smart, but they're actually the dumb ones who don't know a thing), but I have a snubnosed .44 I like because it fits in the palm of my hand nicely, is lightweight, and packs enough of a punch that if I had to move out into the wilderness for any reason I could without the fear of Mr. Bear or a ton of weight to lug around.
@Sven and Otar, I dislike a snub nose for bear but just even a shorter barreled 357 or 44 for me is about perfect for a bear gun
Not like it's Alaska anyway with huge ass bear that don't give a dam
Imho I'm more worried about deer
They can be fvcking vicious and don't give no dam about being shot
You want to know the most dangerous North American animal?
Not the wolf
Or even the Mt.lion
The white tail deer
@carguy25, I'm sure the stats you've found are inflated from car accidents. In my experience, having hunted deer and encountered them all the time in the woods:
1. While they have an impressive ability to move after getting shot, they get scared, not aggressive (Bucks are especially skittish)
2. They are immensely fearful, if you're walking in the woods making noise by snapping twigs or just crunching leaves/snow, they often just steer clear of you if they're awake. If they're bedded or sleeping they do what chipmunks do. They stay absolutely still until you get pretty close then they just bust out at full tilt. Honestly, more friends of mine have been attacked by a bear than have been a deer and that only happened once. I seriously doubt you'll have anything to fear from those guys
@Sven and Otar, it depends on where you are and the deer you come across
I've found some that have been insanely skittish and some that I've been able to go up and pet
But they are known to become aggressive at times especially after breeding and with their babies
@Sven and Otar, I've also had a few charge me
But I do worry about bear more than anything
@carguy25, Well usually doe with fauns tend to stay as far away from weird smelling and loud bipeds as possible. The only instance I can think a deer might attack you realistically is when it's rut time and you've managed to startle a buck high on testosterone. Otherwise, you'd be correct, bear is the real threat. Big pointers when dealing with bear, don't attack or fire your weapon unless it's looking like it'll attack, if you miss or you hit the leg or a non-essential part of the body, you're more likely to antagonize it into charging and you probably won't get a second shot off all that easily. Have your weapon ready and aimed just in case, but just don't shoot unless they look aggressive. 9/10 it's probably doing its own thing and doesn't give a shjt about you, so stay cool be ready but wait and see if they just pass on by
How it feels to chew 5 Gum
I dont feel like first one is a fail, there's just story behind it
Funny pics: what the fvck edition
If you're going to do stupid sh*t, please wear a helmet. It wouldn't have helped for some of these, but it'd make us laughing at your pain feel better
@Pensi PENSI!!!!!! #gif
*insert roblox death*
All I have to say is OUCH!
Ahhh people getting hurt. Humanity's main source of comedy