That and the lasers. And robotically-enhanced strength. And the fact that Iron Man has no problem killing people.
@SimonPetrikov, and the missiles. And they flying thing that he can do. And all the guns...
@SimonPetrikov, not quite no problem. It was when he realized his own technology were killing good people by falling in to the wrong hands that really strung his morals out
@SimonPetrikov, yeah I would think that would come into account more than "he invented it all" not to mention Bruce invented most of his stuff in the comics and cartoon.
@SimonPetrikov, because according to the most recent cinematic versions of Batman (namely, all of them), he DOESNT'T kill people? He's murdered so many dudes
@SimonPetrikov, also he can fly at supersonic speeds without the use of a flying aircraft flight kinda trumps the guy who won't kill therefore batman has no true way to reliably hurt him
@Wankershim, He had issues with innocent people being killed which is why only him and people he trusts absolutely have a suit.
@Cruxio , I was just about to make that comment lmao
@SimonPetrikov, but Batman given enough prep time...
Fvvvvvck yes to both black science guy and Iron Man!
@Murphlins, "Black Guy the Science Guy!" "Neil Neil Neil Neil!"
Cartoon Batman would win. Not only is he smarter (like he makes his own stuff) but he's a superior tactician, and exploits literally any weakness. Also, cartoon Batman makes the viewer believe he can escape anything. This wouldn't be a 1on1 fight with fists like the movie Batman.
@AmigoTaco, and Animated Series Batman is definitely less Emo and more level headed than other generations of Batmans
@SchroedingerPussPuss, That's for sure. Animated Series Batman is best Batman in my opinion.
Emp batarang. Batman would already had a contingency for iron man ala "Babel." If batman can take out the justice league, he can stop a dude in a suit.
@nepheal, as if a guy being powered with a mini nuclear reactor wouldn't take emps into account lol. Give bat all the prep he wants, iron man gots just as much tech and strat as him, but he knows his tech more than bat does.
@Dexios S Divine, Hellbat and Fenrir armor would eat every suit Tony has for breakfast so unless it was an arena style match I say Batman wins since I don't believe he can summon those remotely
@nepheal, Bucky tried using an EMP against Iron Man before. His suit can sense them and protect most of his systems from it. He's also had EMP weapons built into his suit before, having the blast not effect the majority of his systems
@nepheal, does emp even work on Iron man? I don't think it does, or like Dexios said, he would probably have a contingency for that
@Scottles, Iron always has a suit, even when he loses one he calls another. Doesn't matter where he is, he'll have suits on standby. He's entirely aware that he's shït in a fight without a suit.
@Dexios S Divine, my point is that it would take most of his suits getting demolished just to take out one of Bruce's, and then he has another waiting to destroy the rest. With the Hellbat armor he waged a one man war on apokolips and won. Not sure of you know what that means so I will explain, he beat Darkseids army and the Darkseid himself. That being said, he can't summon them remotely so if its just Bats with his normal load out in an arena style fight Iron man wins pretty easily
@Scottles, yeah thats the thing, prep time. Tony is more quick witted, bat needs time outside a fight to figure out weaknesses and shït. Objectively tony is a better fighter than bat since he doesn't need to research for weeks and can have a suit in the fight that responds to whatever hes dealing with. Bat needs to have everything on hand. I see batman more as an assassin, since he's better suited for 1v1s with plenty of time on his side, something I don't see tony being good at.
@Dexios S Divine, it is an odd match up for sure, but I just found out he can summon at least one of his suits remotely but if he only has one Iron Man wins, but after a hard fight. A better match for Batman would be Daredevil or Captain America.
@Dexios S Divine, I think you may be underestimating Bruce's skill as an on the fly tactician, usually in his fights he's analysing his opponent for weaknesses and patterns, granted Tony was never going to be a pushover that being said however, I genuinely doubt that Tony has an armour that can stand up to Bruce's fenrir armour which enabled him to kick Wonder Woman through a building, track and immobilise the flash, immobilise Aquaman (who currently can casually hold up a large cruise ship and go toe to toe with superman), literally it took superman to actually damage the suit.
@LeafOnTheW1nd, I mean what kind of fight we talking here, random encounter or planned fight? Plus can he use the suit again? Honestly never heard of it till the posts here mentioned it. If its planned then yeah, tony has a better chance to lose, if its random, bat loses
@Dexios S Divine, bottle of scotch under a big box. Boom iron man captured.
@Dexios S Divine, I love marvel and all, but I'm sorry, there isnt really a competition here, batman would win in any fight. Batman was trained as a freakin assassin, plus his intellect and technology rivals stark's on any day, if iron man randomly showed up in gotham, not a doubt in my mind the bat could beat him one v one. I mean captain america was able to beat iron man and batman is much more skilled plus has just as intense tech as iron man
@The nOly One, Bruce has intelligence but he doesn't have the power to fight anyone else. Tonys suits are built only for battle, batman is more for diversions and to buy time for himself to figure the opponent out and such. Not calling batman weak, hes just not powerful enough in a straight up fight vs someone like ironman. Tony always has his suits which are much better for hard fights over batmans gadgets that he always has on him. Batman has been over powered before, if we keep the godlike crap out of the fight, ironman will beat batman everytime. Now if we're talking something long term, batman would just kill tony when he's out of his suit when he least expects it, but bat doesn't like to kill, where tony doesn't give a shït if he has to do it. I just don't see ironman getting anywhere near batman in a fight, batman has to bring him close to do any damage. Its just not realistic to me to see batman win it
@Dexios S Divine, meh. We've seen bats with small and powerful explosives plenty of times. Iron man has had his suits ripped to shreds plenty of times from explosions. Pop him out like that easy peasy. It's not like stark would show up in the hulk buster. Even if stark does win, bats would make him earn it. That's really my point.
@nepheal, yeah, it wouldn't be a one sided train wreck, but I see bat losing ultimately. Hes more of strategist, while iron is more fit for war.
I disagree. Iron Man, in theory, would beat batman. However due to his own ego, i feel like batman could easily have the upper hand. Plus, the fact that he has engineers(plural) he could come up with a suit similar to iron man's. In hand to hand combat, Bruce Wayne would win no doubt.
@bowerpower1210, however BatMan would only have 1 or 2 suits. Tony builds them for fun and each to be used differently. If Bruce destroyed one IronMan suit Tony would summon another reference IronMan 3.
His ego is a good argument he is emotional too.... but Bruce can be too (MARTHA). I'd still say Tony since he was able to summon the Hulk Buster while in Africa. And his army of suits.
BUT also BatMan uses the darkness to his advantage Tony would totally have infravision.
@bowerpower1210, Also Tony while dying was able to build his first IronMan suit trapped in a cave with limited supplies. Also knowing all the knowledge Tony has. He would never let himself to be "naked" in the fight. Lastly Extremis blended with the armor to give Stark enormous physical power as well, resulting in the strongest armor to date. Iron Man could lift up to 100 tons. His punch was as strong as a solid steel ball traveling at 3,500 ft./sec.
@Lord Palpatine, I think I depends on whether Batman could prepare. Give Bruce 2 weeks and he'll win. A random encounter in their regular gear, tony takes the W. Batman always get his @$$ kicked, runs, prepares, then kicks @$$.
@TennesseeCousinLover, I'd consider the match being like a deathbattle on ScrewAttack. 1v1 no retreating.
but still Tony Has one suit designed to battle Hulk in strength. plus again Extremis blended with the armor to give Stark enormous physical power as well, resulting in the strongest armor to date. Iron Man could lift up to 100 tons. His punch was as strong as a solid steel ball traveling at 3,500 ft./sec.
@Lord Palpatine, 1v1 no retreating, iron man would smash Bruce into a puddle. You're right in that regard.
@TennesseeCousinLover, I feel like IronMan vs BatMan is a cool matchup Idea but Ben Affleck aside BatMan vs DareDevil is where the debate should be.
@Lord Palpatine, that would be a great match up. 2 martial artists with gadget (I don't know much about daredevil, forgive me) makes more sense that a robot God versus a vigilante.
@TennesseeCousinLover, Well BatMan's greatest ally is the dark but DareDevil is blind but uses vibrations and sound to guide him.... He is basically a human bat. So that makes it even better.
@TennesseeCousinLover, does Bruce get Hellbat armour (the armour he wore to fight a one man war against Apokolips and won) or the Justice Buster armour? In which case Tony is in for a hell of a fight
@Lord Palpatine, Hellbat and Fenrir armor would eat every suit Tony has for breakfast, but I don't think he can call the remotely so it would be irrelevant in a more arena style match like a death battle as you suggested, Iron man wins pretty easily without those armors. Also, Neil is wrong in one way, comic Batman builds most of his stuff.
@Scottles, Fenrir was able to be deployed remotely when the JL attacked him
@LeafOnTheW1nd, oh ok then nevermind on that point
Fair point. But Batman doesn't always have engineers. Depends on what ever continuity he's in. And he's waaaaaaay more skilled than iron man.
Just going to say, hellbat armour or the FENRIR armour would reduce almost all of Tony's suits to scrap
@LeafOnTheW1nd, Justice Buster too.
Side note: It's also totally not a complete rip off of the Hulk Buster armor /s
One thing Batman does have tough is an extensive understanding of combat. In where iron man relies soley on his fire power and brute force.
Why are there rubber pretend veins in the rubber Batman suit. I mean is that necessary?
Does anyone else remember that Bruce got stuck in prehistoric time and built a FREAKING TIME MACHINE out of what he found lying around?
Batman literally becomes a God in New 52. He once created a steroid and injected into himself so he could take down super man. TBH Marvel has good movies but their characters are just a poor mans version of D.C. Characters, Iron Man being the poor mans version of Batman.
If Iron man did not have a weakness than yes he could win. But once Batman knows your weakness you are done
Tony Stark turned all production of future suits to an automated facility that his AI took over so not even he could accidentally give away the secrets of his suits after a point. Batman always knows how his stuff works and often designs a lot of his own gear as well.
But Batman's "superpower", so to speak, is that he always finds a way to win, no matter the scenario. He may not be the engineer Tony Stark is, but Bruce is still a genius and has found ways to win before when he was way outmatched.
Fvck that's some good logic
Iron man would win every time! No contest! Bateman is lame af
@benderama, what's wrong with Jason Bateman? Why you gotta bring the Bluth family into this? They lost all of their money due to bad choices *knows it was a typo*