I think taking two steps into most cities would be all it takes to disprove their theory.
@TheStarHawk, Two steps? What kind of optimistic nonsense is this?
@TheStarHawk, to be fair, 2 steps into most domestic cities would kill you as well.
@TheStarHawk, or zero steps and just read YouTube comments
@TheStarHawk, dare I ask who downvoted you?
@TheStarHawk, I don't have that experience, but probably because I mind my own business when going about.
When you let feelings override every single common sense you could have
@Dephenistrator, this is what happens when feelings become more important than facts and reality...
@Steaknuggets, you hurt somebody’s feelings with that statement, you jerk
@Hot Coffee, if a fact like that hurts someone's feelings guess the the only thing I can say is... Good. Lol
@Dephenistrator, liberal logic
@Steaknuggets, or You're Welcome
@big freedom, yep
@big freedom, "police officers can't be trusted, they're dangerous. People from shítholes with backwards ideologies? They just need to be shown tolerance!"
If you keep too open a mind, your brain will fall out
Good riddance, these are the same folk who are antivaxx and believe the earth is flat
@Siska the Khajiit, I hope you're right so I dont need to feel bad...
@ThePandaPool , you shouldn't feel bad for stupid people dying because of their own stupidity.
@Doctor Yak, I kinda have a tendency to feel bad for stupid people with good intentions.
@ThePandaPool , I feel ya, and it's definitely sad to see stupid people misled to their deaths by people that know better.
@Doctor Yak, and that there infuriates me. Lol
@Siska the Khajiit, They did get killed but the headline is wrong. They were cycling around the world , they had no idea they were in isis territory. It’s just a stupid headline to get more views
@Eltrompetista, then damn not cool, then it’s pretty tragic
@Eltrompetista, no offense but aren't they still kinda stupid for not planning their route better or looking up where they're going/ at?
That's like accidentally going down the wrong neighborhood in Chicago. You should kinda look up not where to go.
Good!! The only cure for stupid!
*Sits back, sips on coffee and waits for inevitable storm of religious dullards to throw out stupid phrases like, not all muslims, Quran doesnt actually, (and my personal favorite) ISIS is not true islam etc etc*
@LaDarkProphet, nah, you're good.
@mycatsanahole, lol we will see. Post is still young ;) We just made it out of uncut my friend. Lets see how it goes now that it made it to recent.
already got one downvote by a person with the usernake @greendaygirl. My hopes are high and my coffee is hot.
@LaDarkProphet, I mean, you already know you're wrong. You just said it right there in your initial statement. That's like putting a puddle of honey out with the anvil hanging right over it in the open and you sitting there with the scissors.
@mas2de, Yep. And religious dullards will more then likely still take the bait ^-^ And my statement, #religionofpeacemyass is not wrong. Islam is no more a religion of peace then i am a nun. Anyone who says otherwise either has never read the Quran and understands Sharia law or is just another religious apologist who will say anything for their religion. Nothing more, nothing less.
@LaDarkProphet, it could be that you got downvoted because you are making it political for no reason
Or because you are insulting a religion
@LaDarkProphet, by that standard, I am unfamiliar with any religion of peace. Ironic that religion is supposed to bring peace but none of them have done so.
Isn't Sharia Law just the government using the Quran to enforce their own sick ideas? Even as far as altering the Quran so it supports their bull?
@LaDarkProphet, That green day chick is a massive snowflake.
@Donutfilm, Did you read the post mate? Its already about religion. Im just making fun of it. And where did i bring up politics or was political in anyway? Not liking a religion is not inherently political unless otherwise stated.
And im not one to shy away from making fun of whatever i damn well please. I see something that i think is stupid or wrong ima call it out.
@mas2de, Like i said. People who defend the religion have never read the quran or understand Sharia Law. First off, your right no religion is inherently about peace. Secondly, religion was never about bringing peace. That is absolutely stupid. Religion was about control and culture. To an extent it still is.
And thirdly, No not really. Sharia Law is IN the quran. No twisting or perversing needed.
How about you actually read the source material and look up sharia laws in countries that actually enforce them and come to your own conclusions instead of spouting what everyone else is saying?
@AlwaysDownvotesAnime, Must be friends with @liberachi Another massive snowflake cunt.
@LaDarkProphet, They usually huddle together, the more feelings they have the less logic they need.
@LaDarkProphet, I haven't read the Quran (any version) and I'm not going to. Not nearly important enough to me.
This internet convo (supposed to be 2 greater than signs here. Forgot FP doesn't do those) reading religious texts.
I do know that people have twisted and perverted the Quran (and many other religious texts) to serve their own needs. Other than that, I don't think I've been spouting other people's nonsense.
@mas2de, If you have never read the source material how can you know, 100% that someone is perversing said source material? Let me guess. Cause someone told you they where? But your not spouting other people's nonsense? Guess by that logic if a murderer on trial says he didnt do it then he didnt do it.
No. Take nothing for granted and trust no one until they earn it. Do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.
I digress. If you have never actually read the source material then you have no real business in the conversation now do you? If you hired a defense attorney would you want them to read the case file and go over it with a fine tooth comb or would you rather have them go off the word they where told? Think before you type probie.
@LaDarkProphet, Or I could trust the work of those who've dedicated their lives to studying these texts and the history surrounding them including recent history and politics. I will never be someone who devotes all my time, money, and effort to understanding all the facets of a religious text, how it came to be, how it has been used and how it has been altered or manipulated. I would not have known that all the dots, dashes and lines in newer Qurans were not there in the original text nor what that means or implies or why. That a simple dot above a word changes the meaning of a word to essentially mean "roaming fortress" (as in "tanks"). If you say that you Do understand all these facets, then it must be your profession or your all-consuming hobby. It is unreasonable to say that experts opinions are "nonsense" and that anyone should know everything about this subject and it's minutia before they drop into an argument. It is reasonable to use professionals' findings in an argument.
@LaDarkProphet, also, stop with the wild "logic" of taking two entirely different circumstances and claiming they're the same.
If you are such an expert on this material, I would like to see Your white papers on the matter. Your personal research, conclusions and postings in peer-reviewed conglomerations of similar documentation and reasoning. Post a link to Your scholarly articles (not someone else's) or get off your high horse about anyone else being able to refute your internet opinion about a part of a subject just because they don't spend their time learning languages so they can delve into religious texts.
@mas2de, O i think my analogies are quite fitting. Your quick deferment to, "O im to busy to read a book and just let "experts" do it for me." Is quite telling on how easy it is to manipulate you. Remember my man that every story has two sides and that every scientist, journalist, scholar and barbarian are trying to prove theirs. I find that even the most studious of "experts" are more then willing to change something for an agenda. And boy are you defensive. All i said was to read the source material. Thats the bare minimum! 😂 You make it sound like im asking you to delve into ancient ruins looking for original manuscripts. Tsk tsk. I know you are far to lazy to do that. Much rather leave everything up to the experts. Quite delightful. Your saying your incapable of reading a book in your native language? No i think you can. Your just to lazy and ignorant enough to believe what others say. Do you need a phd in physics to test gravity? (Dont reply just yet my boy to be continued)
@mas2de, question if youre going to go with the oppinions of the people who have dedicated their lives to the book would you not go with the oppinions of the people passing laws in the name of that book. Saaay like in the middle east.....
@mas2de, (Continued) Do you need a phd in herbology to know that poison ivy can cause alergic reactions? Do you need a phd in biology to know that bee stings hurt and can cause allergic reactions? I should think not. Just about every "expert" has half a dozen or so of assistants who do most the leg work and its up to the expert to take all the raw data and come up with a conclusion based on their years of experience in said field. But its ridiculous to say that the common layman cannot do his own research into a subject.
Theology in particular is quite an easy field in which to test the validity of something. The source material is available in all forms right from the get go. (Back to my quite appropriate lawyer analogy for a second)
@mas2de, You have been accused of a crime that you did not commit but the evidence is quite overwhelming. Your lawer shows up and says its hopeless. He hasnt read your case file, and does not know it offhand but all the experts say your goose is cooked. He drones on and tells you about a bunch of other cases that were similar to yours and how they turned out despite the fact he hasnt even glanced at your case. You want him to be your lawer? The one who refuses to take hopeless cases because the experts say so? Or do you want the lawer who does his due diligence? Looks at your case as it stands on its own merit and goes over it with a fine tooth comb. Compares it directly to what he knows and not necessarily just what the experts say. Which lawer you want more? I think i know the answer.
How does this pertain to the question at hand? Well simply put, you dont need to be an expert to look at the evidence yourself and come to your own conclusion. To accept anything less is pure laziness.
@BlazingBowman, lawmakers /politicians and scholars are opposite types of people in general. One can trust well reasoned and supported articles. One cannot trust politicians and lawmakers. All they have is an agenda. They may use religion to support their agenda but it's usually poorly reasoned.
@LaDarkProphet, "If you have never actually read the source material then you have no real business in the conversation now do you?" I don't need to directly read the source material to know that it's full of hypocrisy and BS and that it has been manipulated and twisted by sick men. I can know that from people who have studied the texts and surrounding details (like politics of an era, the real life and times of Mohammad or whomever, etc.) and just know that this is a thing that happens. This implies (though in honestly here, you didn't actually state) that one ought to be an expert or STFU. That's how I took it, though it isn't at all what you were saying. My bad. You were just saying that I should have at least read the Quran. While I disagree. It ought to be read in the original language as there is always something lost in translation. Even within the same language over time. You can't always get around that and translated religious texts are always dubious at best. The ...
@mas2de, translator(s) always have to make a choice where something is ambiguous between languages. If you're going to read a religious text for critiquing purposes, you should know the original language pretty well or you're just as liable to be duped as you are to be reading a poignant and concise translation.
It's not just "Oh, I'm busy" nor is it laziness, it's that it's not a high priority to me and I have other things to do with my finite time. Unlike those who either have infinite time here or who truly care deeply about analyzing every bit of religious texts. Apparently it is high on your list. That's fine. You do you. What you're full of crap for is saying that any lackluster research the average person would do into the Quran, would in any way compare to a 5 minute expert opinion and breakdown and particular insight.
And no, your analogies are not very good. They're too disconnected from the subject and your point is unclear. You see it just fine, but you don't do a great
@mas2de, ...job of conveying it.
@LaDarkProphet, You needn’t even bring up the Koran at all. Just look at the early history of Islam, it’s birth on the Arabian peninsula and subsequent spread across the Middle East and into Africa, Asia, and even attempts at infiltrating Europe. What honesty sets Islam apart from almost all other religions is the role of violence in its very founding. From the very beginning Muslims saw themselves as carrying out God’s wrath on the non-believers, that’s why in the beginning they didn’t try to convert, they just conquered. They built up huge armies and went and conquered everybody they could find, they gave the people they conquered two options: 1. Convert to Islam, or 2. Die. People who say it’s a region of peace don’t know the first thing about it, the historical evidence sure as heck doesn’t support that, and even in its sacred texts you can find numerous places where God (Allah in Arabic) asks his followers to carry out violence against the infidels in his name. It’s not a religion
@LaDarkProphet, of peace, and Allah is not a god of peace or of love, he is a god who is wrathful and wants to punish those who are disobedient. Muslims themselves do not know if they are in Allah’s good graces, the spend their lives just trying to please him enough that their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds and they can be granted access to paradise.
@mas2de, you realize these are theocracies right? The religious leaders are basically one in the same with the politicians and law makers.
@BlazingBowman, "religious leaders" are also another bag of crap in too many instances. Even here in America we have religious leaders who use their positions as simply a way to get extremely wealthy and to drum up support around their crazy BS. Though even our worst religious leaders here are good and virtuous through and through compared to religious leaders in other countries who use their positions to punish all kinds of people for innate "offenses" against them or "God". They alienate whole other groups of people and without saying it, encourage the ostracizing, rape and killing of entire religious groups that aren't their own. Our Founding Fathers saw the value in religion but saw the combination of religion and power as the worst possible thing for a society thus we have the separation of church and state. Thus preventing from having religious leaders who force people into horrible circumstances with state enforced laws.
@mas2de, but i thought you said you listened to experts and relied on them. If not influential imams and religious leaders all around the middle east all essentially agreeing to certain Tennants of islam then by what metric do we judge this set of ideas?
@BlazingBowman, religious leaders are not usually scholars, especially in the ME. There they tend to be politicians. Influential and experts are not generally in the same basket.
*tenet (Tenents are those people living in a place)
Capitalize nouns like religions and titles.
There were specific experts that I've seen in documentaries and on the news whose names I'm not going to be able to find because some of them were more than a decade ago and I don't recall the documentaries name even. Some might've been on 60 Minutes, others were just on the news in the early 2000s and 2010s, etc.
@mas2de, im pretty sure most of these people have gone to universities in order to study islam. But right these people that thousands of muslims are following arnt real muslims.
I guess ISIS hate cyclists like everyone else
*Dennis sitting in his car*
"You dumb bjtch"
2 less people a tariff on avocados won't affect.
Aww another liberal couple traveling through a third world hellscape under the assumption theyre values are the same as everyone elses. Their fates i wouldnt wish upon anyone. The woman was probably taken and raped numerous times in front of her boyfriend before he was killed slowly infront of her. 😔 trully sad.
@BlazingBowman, it was already dark. We didn't need the light shone on it so we could see just how dark it got. Gotdayum
@mas2de, it may be horrible but people need to know the possibilities. That did indeed probably happend to them. This is a common thing to happen for first worlders escapading in third world hell holes and battlefields.
@BlazingBowman, 100% agreed mate. To many first worlders have beer googles on and think the world is just full of sunshine and rainbows. They have absolutely no conceivable idea about the horrible, horrible things that happen daily.
@mas2de, Then get off the internet cupcake. Place aint for sensitive crybabies. Its full to the brim with the worst of the worst. Cant handle the heat, stay outa the kitchen.
@LaDarkProphet, worlds too hot. Even off the internet.
Problem solved. 😁👍
They proved that humans can be morons.
You deserved it.
Here’s the real story. http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/asia/islamic-state-tajikistan-bike-attack.amp.html. This headline from this picture is misleading. They’ve been riding around the world for a year before this incident. Don’t be a dick about people dying
Edit: nothing about this article says they’re trying to prove anything. They seem like they just got tired of working their jobs
@Sortofslobro, Ok and? Isis still killed to innocent civilians on cunting bikes. I think the general message is pretty clear my dude. Dont be stupid and go through hostile territory. O and feel free to use #religionofpeacemyass ^-^
Are the bikes okay?
Yes I’ll take fake news articles for 200 please
Was mentioning they’re millennials really needed
But Isis isnt real. What is real if it is just members of the us senate. Look it up
@Ocaz, Your telling me the U.S Senate is throwing homosexuals off of roofs while spouting Islamic rhetoric? Conspiracy nutter confirmed. Bette grab the tin foil boys. Got another 9/11 mastar here.
@LaDarkProphet, wow u conglean a lot of stupid sh1t off one post. Ur really here to argue philosophy on a backwoods picture app. Nice. So u defend our government in everything they do?
@Ocaz, Course not. But neither do i blame them for every little thing that happens around the world. *taps nose* If yoir going to spout something stupid on the internet expect to be called out on it.
@LaDarkProphet, I'm not being called on it. I'm busy watching something to care about a little person like you. Reply tomorrow if you want to get chewed out.
@Ocaz, Your the one who claimes isis isnt real. Pretty blanket statement there hoss. A pretty stupid statement as well. And i dont think your conspiracy shows for crak pot nutters is all that important that you cant defend your stupid position but fear not my boy. Im in no hurry. I have all the time in the world. I may not answer right away but rest assured i will eventually get back to you ;)
@LaDarkProphet, I'm not even gonna read that. Just saw that you replied. If you wish to talk conspiracy like a crazy person and comparing on the internet your barking up the wrong tree. I will not give you the responses you want. Especially since I told you I'm busy and especially since I just don't care xD
@Ocaz, Figured you to be illiterate. And im not the conspiracy nut. That would be you my dude. Spouting nonsense like Isis isnt real? Thats flat earth levels right there. Sometimes else you probably believe in lol.