Both think their opinions are way more important than they actually are
@K1l, honestly people should just keep their opinions to themselves, the whole world doesn't need to know your every thought, but that's just my opinion
@Bluemama, I didn’t need to know that! Jeez, some people...
@K1l, opinions are like ass holes. Every one has em and when someone shows me theirs all I think is fvck em.
I once had an openly conservative professor in college. The next class, half the class was gone.
@Elmato, that sounds like half the class was too stupid or sensitive to realize their education is more important than a difference in opinion.
@TheStarHawk, welcome to universities in 2019.
@Elmato, why would I walk out of a class that I'm paying for?
Tbh if it's a history class I dont think there would be much to argue about. Or do I underestimate the power of the internet?
edit: woah I have no idea how my comment ended up here as a reply. that's pretty rad.
@Obsolete ,you underestimate its power! But I agree it depends on the class, like math idgaf but English I might because essays.
@Elmato, so you found a unicorn
@Obsolete , as a person with a bachelor's history and working on his masters, let me tell you, there is a lot to argue about. Historians can agree on shoot and still find things to fight about. We're a contentious people.
@Finndogs, I bet you ask for the manager a lot
@Not him again, eh not really.
@Finndogs, are you sure? Because that comment really sounds like you ask for the manager a lot. How big was the gate on your subdivision growing up?
@Not him again, didn't have one.... did I offend you?
@Elmato, When they say attendance isn't part of the grade.
@Finndogs, I just have a natural hatred for pretentious people.
@Not him again, come again? Did I come across as pretentious? All I said was that historians can't agree and that we debate silly and minor things.
@Elmato, who cares, aslong as his politics stay home. Most professors know that
@Finndogs, if you can't see how everything about that comment is pretentious, then maybe you ought to go work on a car or something and reconfigure your thought process
@Not him again, just saying that's my experience. Besides, there is nothing wrong with friendly debate. Shows civility and a desire to strengthen and share knowledge. If your upset about me calling historians a contentious people, it was meant to be a joke.
@Finndogs, I'm not upset about the joke, I get it... But to start a comment by saying "as a person with a bachelor's working on his masters" is like saying "I'm not racist, but".
@Elmato, hmmmm a conservative professor....what’s that
@Not him again, that's just another way of saying "from my experience", it simply adds legitimacy to my statement. Would you be upset at a friend whos a plumber who says "as a plumber, I think trade schools need to be reworked" or "as a plumber, the pipe work for most of the homes in his neiborhood are horribly in need of an update". Also, "as a blank" and I'm not blank, but" are two very different thinks.
@Finndogs, so have you actually discovered anything? Because if not, your "experience", unlike the plumber, has basically just come from reading books that other people wrote.
@Finndogs, “have you discovered that Lincoln was actually two slave children wearing white face stacked up in a trench coat? No? Your experience is invalid.”
@Not him again, @Not him again, if by discover you mean I published an article where I try to argue for the idea that the New York Times maintain a firm non-partisan policy during the Great Depression, in favor of supporting the presidency as a unifying symbol for the nation during the economic crisis. I support my argument with how the paper continued to support president Hoover well after he lost his popularity, and how after FDR won the presidency, they built up hype for his New Deal, sparking enthusiasm during unsure times. Or are you currently wondering about my newer paper where I argue that the 1930's was a turning point for Italian-Amercans, in that they took great strides in trying to win acceptance from the greater American society?
@Not him again, what do you think happens in a history course? We just listen to lecture, read books, and have class discussion?
@Finndogs, is that a list of qualifications you have there? Why are you being so pretentious!? /sarcasm
Seriously, good job on your hard work and keep at it. And keep reading too. Unlike some people, I believe that a lot can be gathered from reading things that other people wrote. Turns out, there are a lot of smart people that have come before me.
@wtninja, thanks for the support. Trust me, I love reading about historical things. Glad to see others who still see the value in collecting knowledge. What kinds of things do you typically enjoy reading?
@Finndogs, I went to school for business, so I read a lot of Econ books. I’m currently studying for my certification through the Society of Actuaries, so that’s eating up most of my time.
I have a special place in my heart for American history though. I didn’t pay attention to history much years ago in high school and I regret it now. I’ve spent years trying to make that up.
@wtninja, it was my US history teacher in high school that got me into history, and is part of the reason why I'm working to become a history teacher/professor myself.
@Finndogs, history is incredibly important, so keep it up!
@wtninja, thanks and good luck with your certification!
@Finndogs, people who learn nothing from history are bound to repeat it
@Dangerous Dan Spivey, wise man
@TheStarHawk, Or like most college courses I’ve experienced about half of the student in a class drop classes or just don’t show up...
@voided sanity, it’s almost like being better educated tends to shift your ideology away from conservatism 🤷🏻♂️
@Elmato, that's like finding a conservative in Hollywood.
@Elmato, I did too and we loved to have lively debates with them with many people participating to voice their opinions in a sane and constructive way.
@Samtuttle, no, but nice try. It's the environment. Teachers who are picked because they are in the same tribe creating fragile tempered partisan students that treat everyone else there badly as well.
The sad thing is there is a lack of educated people coming out of these schools. But you know, 🤷♂️
@Dephenistrator, I’ve had many educators who were on the entire spectrum of politics. In the 10+ years I’ve been in education, most of them are not conservative for a reason.
@Samtuttle, your bias is noted
@Dephenistrator, what you call bias, most of the world calls statistical significance.
PS, I was ultra-conservative when I was in high school. The more educated and experienced I became, the less conservative I was.
@Samtuttle, that's actually similar to my story. Raised libtard through and through. Left them as i got wiser. Definitely not apart of any party but the Democrats have something wrong with them in this era akin to the Republican party of the red scare days.
Both need to sit down and learn some more.....although as a female I hate feminists trying to speak for me most of all. They've lost their way. I've been paid more than men, I can vote, and do anything I want. Wtf else? Oh a man wanting to keep HIS child? Its like backwards deadbeat except with murder... No thanks blue haired nut.
@Pheasty, while i dont agree with the current state of feminism, you are implying that because your fair well and probably were not discriminated against that means others are not.
@Implicit88, ALL discrimination is wrong! Thats a civil right not a feminist argument. Woman need to stay empowered not play victim. :)
@Pheasty, i agree, unfortunately the law does not.
Ah yes, the liberal girl with short blue hair... She was crazy, but so much fun...
@NotFlat, just like the conservative boy, conservative in public but liberal under the sheets. Look at p0rn searches in conservative states, the results are surprising.
@Implicit88, lol yeah that’s the result of all those repressed sexual desires
Real talk: women with blue hair are THE HOTTEST.
Liberal women ARE EVEN HOTTER.
I actually wore suits to school
Both consider their view to be truth.
History continues to prove one correct and the other impossible to reject.
@meeeh, it was an American Government class
*The half dressed and hungover libertarian just trying to create a coherent thought*
Let the teacher talk
@megamanx181x, thank you student. I shall now impart impartial wisdom. Hilary is a Russian asset.