Libertarian right is pretty much where i fall politically and boy is this accurate
@Guy Fawkes, every time I take the test it puts me dead center.
@dadood fromcheers, an undecided voter is a politician’s wet dream
@dadood fromcheers, same my dude. A moderate on all accounts
@Guy Fawkes, same
Lib left is pretty accurate about literally not giving any factual information but being sad about stuff anyway
@Ghoaxst, I think I love you... no homo
@big freedom, I love all u guys and gals, ngl. Thank you all for such a loveable community.
@Ghoaxst, authoritarian rights pretty accurate about literally being overtly racist
@Hoban Washburne, hey, look at that we agree on something!
@Hoban Washburne, not trying to nitpick but none of the axi say authoritarian, if you mean economic right being racist, I dont think you know how racism works. Now my opinion about the twitter statement. The way "economic right" is presented is a little facetious and aggressive out of context but it is a true statement, slave trade brought a population of people with nowhere to return to. There is factual evidence that it affects the economy (I will not add negative or positive connotation to this due to subject matter)
Now if the statement said "no good useless group of people" then it becomes bigotry going further to say they deserve it is prejudice to go even further to enact the same beliefs upon any of the like is racism. Thank you
edit: I made the mistake of not properly looking at the full image and i feel a fool but it does say authoritarian but my point still stands. I am sorry for my mistake
@big freedom, more connects than separates and all that cliche bullshjt 👍
@Ghoaxst, id argue that the “permanent black population and nowhere to send them back to” portion is fairly overtly racist because its framed as a decided problem. ergo it is a problem to have a permanent black population and no way to get rid of them.
and no sweat man, ive certainly misread stuff before
@Hoban Washburne, that word right there "permanent" is what stood out to be facitious to me (nothing is permanent it's a clear misuse of the word) But really my argument lies in the differentiation of bigotry/prejudice/racism if it was a "racist" comment it would be harshly directed towards the race of people coming overseas. I see it as a bigoted statement rather than a racist one. If you see what I mean, if not is okay my friend
@Ghoaxst, well i do disagree with your interpretation, not your definition. id say the statement is plenty harsh towards the race, framing their being in your country as a bad thing by virtue of their race. id be curious to hear your interpretation
@Hoban Washburne, I’m not even able to agree with you without @arven14 downvoting me. People like that are the type that will guarantee Trump gets re-elected. Knee jerk reactionism creates defensiveness
@big freedom, in their defense ive definitely come across as a dick on other threads. its surprisingly hard to sound levelheaded online, which isnt news, folks always sound like dicks online. its why its so easy to spread crap through the internet, someone hardlines in one direction, which makes other people hardline in the opposite direction when both are prolly chill in person and got into a shjt throwing contest cuz of one troll. honestly, south park kinda nailed it with their trolling episodes. but its nice when you can have a levelheaded conversation with someone you profoundly disagree with. makes you humanize the other side and rethink your own opinions.
@big freedom, in fact, ive downvoted you before cuz i thought you were a hardliner. clearly i was wrong
@Hoban Washburne, sorry about the late reply, I completely understand where you're coming from and I'm seeing your view on the text a bit clearer. I am just addressing that since it's only an excerpt from the full text I cannot personally say it's a racist comment, solely because its lack of context if that makes sense
@Hoban Washburne, like you said, it’s hard to sound level headed online. And I do come across that way when “debating” with the extremist regressives. I don’t think that they use any reason or logic at all. Since they only use emotion, that’s what I try to get out of them. I’ll go to an extreme on one end just to force any kind of ability to back up a position.
@big freedom, i get you man. im über liberal. i tend to think i use logic. i heard this said before and i think its generally true, liberals tend to be empathy-driven, they want to do whats best for people who are fvcked. conservatives tend to be gains-driven, they want to do what works out best for them and theirs. but that empathy is emotional, we look at the pain of folks who are fvcked and we want them to not feel it. we say, “i have a lot, i want to share” whereas my perception is that conservatives say “i need more for me and mine, cuz we’re hard up”. its why liberals tend to be the bougie folks. cuz we have a lot, and we want to help the folks that dont
@Hoban Washburne, where most liberals get tripped up, i think we tend to think white folks dont have it hard. which a lot of white folks do. but a bigger portion of non-white americans have a fvcked life, police brutality, racism, etc. but poor white folks still have it rough. and when liberals try to tell them they dont have problems, it pisses them off, cuz they do. so they go to the republicans, who operate more on “white pride”. my opinion is that poor whites have it bad, poor nonwhites have it BAD. both need help, one needs more. id genuinely love to hear your thoughts man. cuz im not a conservative, so i dont know how yall think
@Ghoaxst, yeah i get you. i guess im working with the context i have in saying that, with the info i have, its fvcked. given more context it might not be. but with what i know, it is. point is, we’re both kinda right, lol
@Hoban Washburne, good points.
I definitely agree that the emotion is there. But compassion without order is chaos. Order without compassion is tyranny.
My problem with the “progressive” movement is that it never ends. There is never enough of what they can take from others and redistribute it to those that they deem worthy.
I am extremely generous with both my time and money. I donate both to great causes. But I hate it when I’m forced to give to the government, who gives a big portion of it to their cronies, then very inefficiently spends the rest.
You can’t force someone to be compassionate. And it’s been proven that when the government takes more and redistributes, charitable giving decreases - especially from liberals. They see it as a problem solved.
@big freedom, yeah those are good arguments. way i see it though, if you leave people to take care of each other without making people take care of each other, they wont take care of each other; or at least they wont do it near as much as society needs them to. good folks’ll donate to help poor people get casts, but a lot wont, and a lot of poor people wont be able to afford to get casts. so we need medicaid, and yeah, the government botches it to shjt. but a bad job is better than a job not done. i think if a government leaves it up to peoples consciences, a LOT of people will djck over the system.
@Hoban Washburne, hmm. I think that too many people are able to work but have been convinced that they should rely on the assistance of government. We have outlawed work in many cases (arbitrary national minimum wage) and continue to devalue labor by importing a permanent underclass (illegal labor from Mexico) and have convinced poor people that getting government assistance is better than doing icky “work that Americans won’t do”.
This person is a mess.
That’s pretty good divide
Whoever that “Race Realist” is, they’re a fvcking douche. They actually said it would be desirable to get rid of all the black people in the US.
Bet they wear a MAGA hat when they jerk off to Roots...
@A Deformed Penis, roots?
The drama series from a few decades ago
@Jesus Chrysler, the drama series?
@A Deformed Penis, talk about a mental leap, they never said any of that lol
@A Deformed Penis, his name was Abraham Lincoln so you better put some respeck on his name. But for real Lincoln actually supported the idea to ship slaves back. He didn’t see how you could coexist with someone who used to own you or how the slave owners could let it go after more than a century of blacks being seen as property. Looking at the next century of our nations history he kinda had a point. I always wondered what would’ve happened if we sent them back with technology and language to improve Africa what would’ve happened. Would Africa have risen out of poverty by an influx of laborers that understood something of western culture and how to utilize its benefits to get ahead?
@BigJohnson86, I'm no expert on the science of it but there are alot of strong arguments that no they wouldn't have risen. Not because race but location. The continent of Africa is just full of horrible debilitations for the growing of civilizations. Even with modern technology it's gonna take a long time before the continent as a whole enters the first world. Though there is a lot of promising progress in that regard. So here's hoping I'm wrong more developed nations can only be a good thing.
@Hagasay, I was more referring to the idea that they were basically conquered and colonized which would give them the impetus to rise up in the world so they lagged by a small margin. I’m familiar with the idea that hardship breeds innovation which is why European civilization evolved. Physical prowess became less important than mental prowess because the conditions required it. Africa didn’t hit that point without outside influence
Wtf is this nonsense
Hey guys we are going to enslave you and use you as free labor until you die but silver lining in 2-400 years your offspring can be treated like crap but free crap and you get a black president we definitely didn't vote for so silver lining maybe?