To be honest I’m kinda expecting a bunch of TL;DRs on this one...
It’s such a huge picture that I had to combine two less massive pictures just to upload it
Can I just say that the reason winter happens has nothing to do with the distance from the sun. We're actually CLOSER to the sun in the winter. Too lazy to detail it so just google it. Here's a hint. It has to do with the radiation COVERAGE during that time.
@tha5th, Was gonna point that out but you beat me to it. Yay, now at least we’ll be educated when we pollute the air to the point that everyone needs gas masks and politicians do fvck all to stop it.
@A Flying Panda, well they're all gonna be on a giant spaceship headed to an earth-like planet that no one has mentioned to colonize it.
On a side note presuming we can control the planets weather patterns is laughable. The planet has had ice ages and made deserts where tropical paradises were long before man started polluting it.
@lostnomad, regardless of reasoning, we should probably work on the pollution anyway
@Fairy Squad Mother, I agree we should reduce pollution as much as possible. But blaming everything the planet does on pollution isnt realistic.
@Fairy Squad Mother, I give it 5 years before things that extract carbon from the air become market viable. Then it'll just be aesthetic issues like garbage everywhere and sea turtles with straws up their nose.
@lostnomad, while I agree, looking at the change in polar ice pack and the over all temperature of the ocean over a few years a pattern can be seen. Most ocean creatures are incredibly sensitive to the temp and pH of the water. The more CO2 in the atmosphere, the will be forced to dissolve into the ocean because of physics (I forget the exact law, but I'm almost positive its diffusion). The CO2 that gets forced in becomes carbonic acid. Organisms like coral are super ridiculously sensitive to pH. Check out the great barrier reef for example, it's been declared dead. Sorry for the rant. I'm just passionate about the marble we walk on.
@Cobra Commander, While I do agree that we need to find away to mitigate the CO2 already dumped into the atmosphere, and find realistic (key word) alternatives to fossil fuel; taxation is not the correct way to go about it. Nor is militant doomsaying. Our every day lives depend on energy, so to force (about) 300,000,000 people in the US (let alone the rest of the world) to immediately become the equivalent of a third world nation is going to cause problems. (Think Civil/World Wars on an unprecedented level) I love the idea of green homes, eco-friendly vehicles, energy star appliances, etc. Instead of preaching doom and gloom in a set time (over and over, a la Aum Shinrikyo or Peoples Temple) unless we severely downgrade our way of life, we need to find ways to make the right steps as gradually as we got to this point. To use your Great Coral Reef argument, this has happened over the course of about 200 years, correction needs to take about the same time else we risk further damage.
@lostnomad, we already have controlled weather patterns, we're capable of destroying the earth several times over, a third of all landmass is devoted to human agriculture, the dust bowl is probably the most relevant example for you where a man once pointed out the window of the us capital building and said "there gentlemen, goes the state of kansas" as a hundred foot wall of dust that traveled across half a continent swept across Washington d.c., all of these weather patterns were predicted way back in 1990s when al gore first started talking and nobody gave a shlt, dont forget about the ozone hole either
I think the real problem is getting countries like China and India on board.
@TheAlphaFleece, Not saying the US shouldn't keep working on reducing emissions. It's just annoying to see everyone jump on the US hate train when other countries around the world have increased emissions with little thought of actually meeting their agreements set in the Paris Accords. At least the US actually attempts to reduce emissions (I heard we did, but I have no idea to what degree or if it's similar to "cutting the federal budget" sort of reduction).
Two things. One, "12yrs" till our death makes me fvcking burst out laughing. I'm old enough to remember when we were supposed to be dead 20yrs ago; these people have been making this same bogus prediction for like 40yrs and have always been wrong. If we really had 12yrs left, there would be easy to see signs of it. Two, "most scientists" aren't scientists who study the atmosphere or climates; pay attention to what field a scientist studies in next time you read one of their faulty papers - yes their peer review paper standards are garbage now. It doesn't help that many of these "scientists" have been caught in the past fixing their research numbers so they could get generous funding.
@ JCLEMZ, Well it’s not “12 years till our death” it’s 12 years until we reach a point to we’re our modern science and understanding of how to slow climate change won’t be viable any longer. It’s just a marking point for “Well shjt...now it’s gonna be near impossible for us to change anything with the minuscule methods at our disposal. I guess whatever happens, happens.” It’s like procrastinating writing a paper. Will you be better off starting it 12 days from it’s due date or 1?
YAY MY HOME PROVINCE IS MENTIONED!
Jokes aside it’s even getting too cold for my sled to run! (snowmobile for the United States citizens)