They want equal outcomes not equal rights
@M0RT0S, its unfair to say feminists when it is almost every special interest group
@M0RT0S, can we also bring attention to Nyxas comment about fathers, so we can send her to downvote hell.
@The mortiest morty, 100% correct. Don’t let those downvotes change the fact you’re right. There’s still white guilt and minority hypersensitivity when you point out how bad minorities and “feminists” act.
@M0RT0S, unless it's in representation in undesirable fields like sanitation or waste management
*cough* draft *cough*
@jeewjitsu000, actually during the equal rights amendment debate between the 70s-80s, feminists argued that women should be draft eligible just like men.
@YoYoMango, don't know why this got downvoted, it's true, look it up #staywoke
@YoYoMango, funny thing about that, that's the reason why most women WEREN'T feminists. Also, #GetWokeGoBroke
@YoYoMango, that's real feminisim. Feminazis and Tumblr give real feminists who are trying to do things like improve conditions for girls in places like 3rd world countries a bad name.
@YoYoMango, some people don't know the difference between feminism then and modern feminism. That's probably why.
@Im Innocent, which sucks. I may get downvoted to hell and back but genuine, legitimate feminism is a good thing. This third, some might say fourth, wave of it is incredibly toxic and misleading, though.
@JakobJeanCiccone, Probably because modern feminists don’t care about better equal rights globally, they just want more stuff in their 1st world lives. You never hear these people mention places like the Middle East where women are truly, actively oppressed. Seriously, it’s seen as a big step that women were allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia for the first time.
@YoYoMango, while I agree with this particular sentiment. I dislike the use of the term "woke". It just seems to me like either side of any social political dissagreement could claim they are the "woke" party. Just becauss they claim they are woke doesn't make them so. So it seems like schrodingers cat... Both right and wrong at the same time when viewed from an outside source.
@Mr Literal, You could use that for any word. "The Republicans claim to be human? Well so do thr Democrats, so...."
@YoYoMango, that is actually interesting I was more referring to modern day though I know that is one of the most controversial problems with it
Sad but true.
@ThePandaPool , What responsibilities are feminists trying to avoid?
@Nyxa, No. I saw your comment on fathers. You're obviously a sexist dirtbad and i have no interest having a conversation with you.
@ThePandaPool , My comment was a point. I was raised by my father. I think it's just as true to say that feminists don't want equal responsibilities as it is that father's don't want equal responsibilities. In that, neither are true.
@ThePandaPool , The hypocrisy being that you are ready to agree that feminists fighting for equality don't want equal responsibilities, and yet you understand that father's fighting for equal custody rights DO want to share in equal responsibilities. And so, I ask again, what "responsibilities" are feminists avoiding?
Those aren't real feminists. They're womanists, the overprivileged, entitled descendants of the REAL heroes, the true feminists who fought for EQUALITY, not preferential treatment.
Oh my i just lost my upvote-ginity
You could also replace "feminists" with "fathers" and it is just as true.
@Nyxa, my dad went to college; paid his way, bought a house, worked everyday; made time for my sports games to come see me, put Food on the table, bought me clothes, set money aside for me, bought a generator and water when a hurricane came, all while my mom was a stay at home mom and never whined about inequality or anything. Care to elaborate, you sexist, ignorant, brainwashed dumb fûck?
@iKnowWhatYouThinkin, same story here, lol you must be from Louisiana like me
@MrLenny, nah, NJ man 🤘🏻
@iKnowWhatYouThinkin, I was raised by father. I'm avidly pro-paternity rights. You played right into my troll. Which was that neither are true. By "just as true" I was saying that neither are true.
@iKnowWhatYouThinkin, Furthermore, if people spent less time hating on feminism and more time securing paternal rights, the world would be a better place. Say what you will about feminism, but it actually accomplished a lot on behalf of equality. Meanwhile, paternal rights are still lacking and there is no excuse for it. With the vast majority of politicians and policy-makers being men, fathers should not have to struggle in court to see their children. So to claim that ANY group which demands equality wants to avoid the responsibilities of that equality is asinine. Be it feminists or fathers. Which is why I made the post I made cause I knew it'd get attention.
@Nyxa, quit backpedaling dirtbag
@ThePandaPool , Kay, lets think about this, buddy. I am pro-feminism and pro-paternal rights. Always have been, I've argued on behalf of both many times on this app. By saying it's "just as true" to say fathers in this original post as it is to say feminist, then that can mean one of two things. Either I am anti-feminism and anti-fathers, or I was genuinely making a point about how posts like this are factually wrong. Given my track record on this app, and how I questioned you on behalf of feminism in the other thread, it's pretty obvious that I was making a genuine point via inflammatory statement.
@ThePandaPool , And again, you ignore the question which is "what responsibilities do feminists avoid?" I've already explained myself. But you're the one holding out. Is this because you don't have an answer? You can only feign indignation for so long. Insulting me doesn't make the question disappear.
@Nyxa, it’s funny you say feminists want equality, yet, nothing you say is about equality, nor has any feminists preached about REAL equality. Feminism is a disease. It’s about special treatment and abusing power and being cancerous, not equality. The wage gap is fake, men never get a say in court about child custody, women bash men all day and get told their strong instead of how sexist they truly are. They make the work environment terrible by being overly sensitive, overly emotional and many women accuse guys of sexual harassment and rape and through social media, not trial, women ruin guys live’s with no proof. Fûck your whole fake movement of fake equality. I’ll never agree with it or support it. And I openly bash these fake feminists happily.
@iKnowWhatYouThinkin, Yah know, people have always considered feminism a disease. Even when early suffragettes were marching, feminism was criticized. What special treatment are you talking about? Like, dude. My original comment was purposefully misleading but now you downright sound sexist. You're saying women make the workplace terrible? So women shouldn't exist? Around 2% of rape allegations are false, and over 90% of rapists never spend a day in jail. So. If your comparing false allegations to rape going unpunished, ya gonna face a really stark comparison. By bringing up Paternal rights I HAVE discussed equality. Fathers shouldn't have to get court permission to get access to THEIR CHILDREN. But, ya know, as a dude, do you ever stop to wonder why men would lack for anything? Our society used to be heavily patriarchal. So if modern men lack anything, blame men of the past. They established the societal structures we see today.
@iKnowWhatYouThinkin, Look up the definition of feminism. This anti-feminism counterculture is so bizarre to me. You're basically complaining that feminists annoy you and therefore feminism is wrong.
@Nyxa, the "you played right into my troll" thing was overly convoluted and misleading, but I think you have a reasonable, genuine argument otherwise. You probably wouldn't get downvotes if you didn't try to trick people into thinking they were insulted.
@brenno263, Very good observation. I really wish I could go back and reword my original comment. I was trying to be offensive first to get the attention, then explain later why I said it.
What I SHOULD have opened with is: "This is like saying that fathers are fighting for equal parental rights only to reject the associated responsibilities."
Or something like that. I approached it from a really weird angle. I knew what MY true intentions were and how I actually felt about the issue, but I can't expect strangers to know that when I phrase myself so oddly. Dunno why I did it like that lol
Being an independent woman I have to say I have no problem with equal responsibilities. I’ll pay my bills and do my own laundry if you do the same.
This is the case between pro birth (just the birth)and pro life(taking care of the left resulted from the birth)
THATS NOT FAIR!!!