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@Blandrice, and no radiation in a sonogram
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@ThePandaPool , MRIs also don't use radiation
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@Blandrice, yup. I am indeed an idiot
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Women...?
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@Reach4God, it’s 2022. That’s considered sexist and offensive.
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@Spadez7, then I guess I'm a bigot
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@Reach4God, this can’t be real
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@celtics313131, which part? Because that is in fact what an MRI looks like, and the modern left does indeed require you say 'birthing person' over 'woman'. Something to do with the trans lobby.
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@Reach4God, let people do what they want maybe?
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@Lying Cat, I dont follow. Did I say anything about any actions people can/cannot take?
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@Reach4God, you corrected people to women, so you did say that there are actions people can and cannot take. Some trans men are willing and able to be pregnant. No, it doesn't make them a woman.
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@agentaquamarine, woman: an adult female person. -Webster Trans man: Transgender man; a man who was a female at birth. -Webster Hence, trans men are women
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@agentaquamarine, yeah, it kind of does though. You can believe whatever bs you want in the name of not offending people, but rewriting biology textbooks is a bit beyond the pale. Biological females, I.e. women, have the necessary organs to get pregnant, biological males, i.e. men, do not. No amount of inclusive wishful thinking will ever change that.
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@Lying Cat, apparently no, based off the response
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@Spadez7, so... do you want him to not say that? He's making an offensive joke, do you have a problem with offensive free speech? *offensive to the person I am talking to, I don't think its offensive to say only women give birth, irrelevant of how true it is
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@Reach4God, I was with you up until this comment, if something is past tense, it cannot also be present tense: 'Was a female' = 'not currently female' I also want to ask, if someone unisex gets a different reproductive organ, do you have a problem with that?
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@Block1187, i'm gonna throw myself into the fire here knowing full well i'm getting downvoted to hell, but still feeling obligated to clarify this: According to trans advocates, female is not synonymous with woman. Under this framework alone it's purely logical to say that a trans man, who is female, is still a man. The entire point of the modern trans argument is that gender is a societal structure, while sex is a biological one. If you put this in practical terms it makes sense - we often refer to effeminate males as "not men," and masculine females as "unwomanly." In short, the most misunderstood aspect of trans advocacy is the sex-gender separation, and (assuming) we are working with this framework, a man with a vagina is perfevtly logical.
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@Factory BOY, your sex, much like every other part of your physical attributes (skin color, eye color, hair color, etc) cannot be past tense unless you are dead. Unless the trans person has succumbed to the 42% suicide rate pre and post operation, they are still the sex they were born with. This highlights my primary concern with/for trans people, as I want their suicide rate to go down. Gender affirming care does NOT decrease the suicide rate, so we should explore alternatives. One could argue that denying other solutions is the most transphobic thing you could do, as you clearly don't care about their life, rather you care about feeling good about yourself. As for unisex people, they represent an even smaller number of people than trans, and among that number they almost always have a primary phenotypical gender/sex. I really don't care which they choose to embrace, much like I don't care if trans people want gender affirming surgery, but I don't see them as similar issues.
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@Reach4God, according to your webster definition, past tense of sex is used when referring to transgender people, so that's in contrast to what you are saying. Perhaps if people accepted trans people, there wouldn't be as much depression within the community. Just because they happen to be trans does not mean that is the cause for depression, many people that reject the norms are linked with depression, doesn't mean they are depressed because they rejected the norms, it may well be the other way round as an example of a host of reasons. I bring up Unisex people because we have no problem with them ascribing to a sex they were not born as for socialised reasons, to the point of medical operations at birth. Trans people do surgery to change from a dominant group labelled male or female, and so we turn around and reject them for choosing so.
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@Factory BOY, That suicide rate is higher than jews in the holocaust. You're not going to convince anyone that trans people have more depression than jews did under the nazi regime. This high of a rate is what you'd expect to see in mental patients, amd up until very recently (5 ish years) gender disphoria was labelled a mental illness. Then it became politically incorrect to say that, so we abandonded all reason and embraced what is obviously a condition that needs treating. There are drugs on the market that 'normalize' chemical imbalances and help trans people feel less like they're in the wrong body, but admitting to this means accepting that it's a mentall illness, and that just won't do. So the modern left did the most transphobic thing you could do and doomed them to be stuck with a 42% suicide rate because the solutions that actually help sound mean to say.
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@celtics313131, yes, it is. It’s also a lot more difficult to do an MR imaging than to do an ultrasound.
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@Block1187, what about people who don't have functional sex organs? Or people who have both sets? Or people presenting with a functional vagina but who have male sex chromosomes? Or vice versa? Gender and sex is incredibly more complicated than just penis man, vagina woman, and no amount of wishful thinking will ever charge that.
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@Reach4God, lol, you went all the way to the Holocaust. That wasn't necessary to say suicide rates are inflated within a group of people, and no, I would not even try saying being trans is comparable to the holocaust. You're saying people shouldn't change their body, they should change their mind, because their group is associated with depression. You then suggest drugs to alter a person's brain. Your suggestion will only accelerate suicide rates if implemented, if the person has to live on pills either way, why not let them try the sex change? I agree there are people that regret becoming trans. There are also people that embrace it fully with total comprehension of the consequences, and are happier for it. I don't know where you get your stats, but id be interested if the same source has information of suicide rate of unisex people? I know they are also irregularly high, is the point.
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@Factory BOY, it's a simple math equation to me. The goal is to reduce suicides in a group of mentally ill people. We have a number of options before us. The first option, mutilating the body, conclusively doesn't help. So if we're still interested in helping these people (and not just earning political points) then we need to explore other options.
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@Reach4God, if a person's sex cannot be past tense, do unisex people stay unisex even after their genitalia has been changed? You are okay with changing a person's brain, but not their body. Seems to me you jus want people to fit your personal normal, and you don't want to see.
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@Reach4God, stop assuming that the general people out there are not mentally ill, they are. If you want to stop depression and suicide, create a space for the crazy to exist happily, don't deny the crazy - I am speaking as you see trans people, I do not think they are crazy. Sexuality never has and never will be simple math.
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@Factory BOY, trans isn't a sexuality. It's a condition, called body dismorphia, where the person feels as though there is sonething wrong with their body when there isn't. It's no different from 'trans-abled' people who want to cut off their arm because they think it feels weird. The ONLY reason trans sexuals are getting the hype and support they do is because of the myriad other sexual movements going on in parrallel. People look past the dismorphia part and cling on to the sexual part, and that's a problem for the people who actually suffer from it.
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@Reach4God, body dismorphia says the person finds something wrong with themselves. Trans people do not inherenty dislike their original body, but choose to change into something else for a host of reasons, as people are complex. You advocate changing brains with medicine before changing physical features, as though changing a brain to fit the body other people want isn't insane as well. You have not answered my question on unisex people undergoing these surgeries, their minority status has little to do with the questions that arise about socialised gender. Is it wrong, as well? Or is it only wrong to change from a predominant sex?
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@Reach4God, hey I'm trans and just wanted to and my views on a couple things. For the most part I disagree alot with what the left does and say. I prefer to refer to myself as a "trans woman" and not just woman. Oddly I think that puts me in the extreme minority when it comes to the trans community, or at least when it comes to the noisy ones. I personally think we should just have 4 categories: man , woman, trans man, and trans woman. It conveys the info everyone needs and doesn't come off as deceptive to anyone. As to trans peoples mental health that's another area I tend to stray from. Never been suicidal or rejected by peers. So I don't seem to have many of the issues others do. Problem for me is I tend to see other trans people as a bunch of snowflakes cause I cannot relate to their problems as a result. Idk what I'm trying to say with this ramble. Just sharing my thoughts as a trans woman.
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@Factory BOY, I feel like we're straying from the point with this, but I'll tell you that I don't really care what people do with these surgeries (unisex included). My point is just that surgery doesn't improve the suicide rates for trans people. With that in mind I ask you a simple question: do you want to decrease the suicide rates among trans people? If yes, rhen why are you seemingly against exploring options that might help? Altering brain chemistry is a viable solution for a host of other mental illnesses such as schitzophrenia, split personality, bipolar disorder, etc. If we know we can ACTUALLY reduce suicides this way, why don't we?
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@Chewy Shark, from in person discussions I've had, trans people have described the condition as a curse they wish to rid themselves of. Is this the same for you? You seem to be an edge case in this regard, so your insight will likely differ.
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@Reach4God, if you only care about suicide rates, then drug people as much as you want. If you care about people's freedom, then put your drugs away.
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@Factory BOY, you misinterpret me, and you dodge the question. I want the option to be advocated as a solution. I don't want anybody forced to do anything they don't want. If you know the suicide prevention option is there and choose not to take it, then your death is on your hands.
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@Reach4God, I did not dodge the question, I just did it like you like to, and didn't answer the question. You argue as though your solution of drugging trans people is synonymous with a decrease in suicide rates. Yes I want trans people less suicidal, no, I don't think that is achieved by mind altering drugs. You're not the first to suggest this course of action, and we already saw the historical results, it was worse than suicide, for some. Why is it okay for you to alter the brain, but not the body?
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@Factory BOY, we are altetering the brain because the brain is sick. This is no different than putting a cast on a broken bone or taking antibiotics when you have a bacterial infection. Why are you against it? Also, I've never seen evidence of drugs being worse than suicide, could you elaborate on that?
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@Reach4God, I wouldn't describe it as a curse personally. Before I came out as trans I lived a fine life as male but I had known since I was in third grade I wanted to live as a trans woman. However at the time the trans role models who were out there then didn't really pull it off well. They were more dragqueen style than passable feminine style. So it felt out of reach. So I chopped off my hair and live as a male till my mid twenties. I had come out to my girlfriend in my early twenties but it was a relationship ender so I suppressed the desire for a few more years since I really liked her. We were engaged at one point but for reasons apart from me wanting to live as trans we split. After that I spent alot of time online and found tons of the people in late teens and twenties who are trans, looking absolutely gorgeous. That gave me the confidence to finally go for it. I had always been an attractive male, my biggest fear was that I wouldn't be as a trans woman. But it...
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@Chewy Shark, but it worked out that I look really good. The hormones have done amazing work and I can easily pass now. I could speculate a lot on why I think I'm better off than the average transperson but, everyone is their own person. I think I just figured out how to transition the best for myself. I would have liked to have done it sooner I'd say probably while I was in college would have been ideal but it is what it is. If you got any other questions I'm happy to answer when I can.
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@Chewy Shark, It's good to hear that life seems to be going well, and that leaves me with one question: is any I've said unreasonable? As you yourself admit, you seem to be an outlier among trans individuals, so I can accept my propositions wouldn't be useful for those such as yourself. I guess the real question is: if you had the option to take a drug that made you feel more 'normal' (for lack of a better term) would you consider it?
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@Reach4God, For me That drug already exists and that is my hormones. So I won't be taking anything that would make me feel normal being male. I wouldn't say having a drug like that is a bad option if it works but it's definitely not something that should ever be forced or trialed upon people as like a diagnostic way of helping them with the disphoria. It would have to be presented alongside all the other options that there currently are, without any bias given towards one. Basically it would have to be presented objectively alongside all other options so that the person themselves can decide what they want. But like you reiterated I believe I am an outlier. I'd say a lot of that likely comes from the life experiences I have had. I was never really bullied and any small attempt to bully me was shut down quick so I don't have that same not belonging with my peers feeling alot have. Sure I don't really know on a personal personal level any other LGBTQ people. But everybody
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@Chewy Shark, In my life has been very accepting no matter how nervous I was to tell them at 1st. I could say a lot of my success comes from my political views as well I am weird that I don't really follow the hyper liberalism that seems to come with most people being LGBTQ. I lean conservative on several things and slightly liberal on others.. I think that also helps me have a more level headed mindset In life. So many people in the LGBTQ community are just surrounded by like minded people and it makes things very tough to be your own person. They feel like it's got to be done a certain way or I have to transition a certain way or whatever. For me becoming a successful transwoman was being found attractive by others in public, and getting cat called every now and then. That to me feels like I am winning in life. On a more personal note I tell everybody that I am romantically interested in and vice versa that I'm trans and I've never had a bad reaction. But others aren't so
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@Chewy Shark, lucky.
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@Chewy Shark, lucky.
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@Chewy Shark, presenting everything as an equal option is all I'd suggest.
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Ack ack!
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@CHEisme, when Mars Attacks your uterus
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ABORT MISSION! ABORT MISSION!
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@twopotatoes, darks, I like
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@twopotatoes, the darkest of humor muhahahaha
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Well this would lessen the pro life movement I imagine
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MRIs on fetuses? Do you want Magnetos? Because this is how you get Magnetos!
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Would be a great tattoo
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You can call yourself whatever you want. At the end of the day there are only 2 genders. You can believe whatever, but only biological women can get pregnant. Doesn't matter if they became a "man", they are still a woman literally in the inside. Down vote me if you want but that's literal science. This coming from a Christian.
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@Zergmare , that's right
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@Zergmare , Well... That is the case until we finish unlocking genetic experimentation. Then all we will need is two donor bone marrow samples and viola a baby born from two men, two women, a person by themselves in theory etc. As a supposed Christia who understands and advocates for science you should really look into bone marrow pregnancies. We have already used bone marrow stem cells from a pregnant mother to save her baby. Not much longer now till we can create humans in a jar. Science is awesome and I can't wait for the future. Stem Cell Research especially has exponential potential for the betterment of humanity.
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Metal AF
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This honestly looks way cooler
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Doctor: “There’s your problem right there. The reason you’ve gained so much weight recently is that you have a person hiding inside of you.”
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Not even remotely true. MRI requires that you hold still for a long time, which fetuses won’t do. Moreover, MRI offers very high resolution which isn’t needed for prenatal care and is extremely expensive. But pregnant women get MRIs for other reasons all the time rather than CT because radiation isn’t good for the baby.
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This is the crypt keeper now… feel old yet?
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Congrats! It’s a demon!
Also because ultrasound equipment is significantly cheaper than massive MRI machines, so small private clinics can perform ultrasound exams for very little cost.