To this day i dont fully comprehend what rage against the machine actually believes
@Medic135, charging a fvcking fortune to go to their shows
@Medic135, at this point I doubt they believe in anything other than opposing the current power.
@Not him again, eh you dont wanna buy a ticket dont buy a ticket pretty sure you can find their music on most streaming apps. Check the price of a superbowl ticket and complain about that meanwhile I got two champions league semifinal tickets for a total of 300 euros (150 a piece) . I've done that twice first time was 2013 when Bayern won the treble and again in 2015-16 when bayern lost to Barcalona. Basically complain about unregulated capitalism haha same reason we have an opioid problem.
@Runnin with scissors, Your comment leads me to believe that you have an opioid problem.
@Runnin with scissors, I'm guessing if you're talking euros, you don't understand how big a deal the superbowl is over here. I don't even know wtf you are talking about, and considering it was 4 to 7 years ago...where was your seat?
Opioid problem? I agree, but I think you need some Narcan bud
@Runnin with scissors, people don’t go to live shows to hear the same music you can hear through your earbuds lol it’s a different experience. the artist/band doesn’t just play their music on a big speaker for people. they perform the songs, yo.
@Not him again, I do understand how big the superbowl is. Do you understand how big the champions league is? It's close to the world cup which are often sold on a lottery system to avoid high prices... superbowl tickets are ridiculous. It was euros but if you look back to 2013-2016 the euro was 1.1 to a dollar and 1.3 later on. I was around 30 rows up on the center half line. so I was sat close.
Nah I'm good on drugs I'll stick to a bottle. My argument here is if your complaint is money or something costing too much blame the market not the performer.
@Tyler643, I've been to plenty of concerts and I'll admit you're right. It's nice to see the performance. However, they still play the same songs and if you have good speakers not earbuds. The whole point of my comment was to say if you're upset at ticket prices dont be upset with the band be upset with the market.
@Runnin with scissors, my argument is their whole premise is to rage against the machine, then they turn around and charge 200 dollars for tickets to a show. How do you not understand what I'm talking about?
@Not him again, I understand what you are saying. I just reject your opinion. Being paid to create music doesnt mean you dont disagree with the system. Everyone needs money. Taking advantage of a broken system while financially gaining and making an artistic statement is more reasonable than any lobbying that occurs. Complain about the cost as much as you want but at least you have a real choice of whether or not youd like to buy a ticket.
My point is you are arguing against artistic value. Maybe $200 is too much but what do you expect given the market and their own needs? Do you expect them to create music for free because they disagree with "the machine"? Ya good luck with that. There are plenty of street performers but you dont have to give them money either but you are also welcome to give them your life savings...
@Runnin with scissors, not at all, but I've never came close to spending that much money on tickets, not even in the pit at huge venues, which is my reasoning for thinking that it is kind of going against what they stand for
@Runnin with scissors, he is complaining about the price of their tickets because RATM preaches this anti capitalist message but they are charging an arm and a leg, if they want to help the common man they can start by lowering their prices. Kinda like how Bernie Sanders loves preaching socialism but owns 3 houses. We don’t complain about the NFL because they aren’t preaching communism.
I mean. He's supporting stuff that the mainstream media supports and The Democratic party. So it should probably be called raging on behalf of the machine. (Stolen from Tim pool)
@voided sanity, Tim Pool is great, watch his content a decent bit. Seems to be the only way to get honest news anymore.
@owanobi, guess some people really hate Tim pool. But I normally watch him and Crowder. The fact the most reliable news comes from a beanie wearing skateboarder. And a Mickey mouse sounding (when annoyed) comedian is telling of the times
@voided sanity, I can see why sometimes, he is too much of a fence sitter at times. Im personally a huge fan of Adam Criggler. on their podcast he really comes off as someone who does his own research and makes logical decisions.
@owanobi, he's got squatter's rights on that fence at this point. But yeah I'm starting to like Adam more. I mostly like the fact I disagree on alot of their politics. (I'm center right) but I fully agree with them on social issues and liberties. It's nice to find people I like I disagree with
@voided sanity, pretty much same here. I like how even though Tim doesn't like Trump, he isn't an orange man bad libtard. He is more interested in telling honest news regardless of what is actually going on. It is funny to me how because of how polarized the sides are right now, Tim looks like a conservative, when he is more libertarian than most.
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@Tentastic, wtf how did this get here
Dude is so angsty that he forced the band apart at one point. How do you not notice this kind of shjt?
@ThePandaPool , so angsty they thought Chris Cornell would be a less stressful alternative.
@pleroma77, I didn't think about that. That's fvcking funny.
He’s raging against the machine he’s a part of
Frankly, I can see both sides of this argument. On one hand, yes- he may be a little dense if he thought there was no political driving behind their music. However, there is a fine line between having a political message in the music, and spouting off your ideals feeling like a superior dick the entire time. Just leave it in the music if you can’t be civil. I hope this makes sense.
@groundpounder04, ....the band is literally called Rage Against the Machine. How is that not a political statement right there?
@groundpounder04, isnt music an artistic expression? Personal emotions are included. Lemme know if you have any famous art pieces in mind that hold no emotion cause I'd honestly be interested. I'm not great at emotional expression but come on man wtf are you arguing on that side? Musicians shouldn't express themselves? I think you should claim to hate all music except instrumental and even then only like some because many claim to have an emotional founding.
@Runnin with scissors, I have no problem with political expression, especially in art. I don’t like the actors and singers who will step out of the art and give a lecture on what their political opinions are.
If I pay to hear you sing, don’t come out and lecture between songs.
And actors are the worst. Their entire profession is filled with child rapists and limousine liberals ranting about how everyone else should behave. Like their opinion is more valid because they can act. I’d rather hear the plumber or electrician or ditch digger. At least they live in the real world.
@big freedom, youd rather listen to a ditch digger? Not trying to talk down on any profession but if you are a ditch digger you probably arent the sharpest tool. I'd also like to point out that pedophiles are everywhere. The only one I know/met was a fisherman who molested his daughter and her friends. His name is austin fishenko. Sound like you just want to complain about liberals but was Epstein a liberal? Is bill oreilly? Pretty sure we all live in the same world however I will agree that we get treated differently based on status.
@Runnin with scissors, wut? Nice to know that you look down from your high horse on working people. Idgaf if Epstein was liberal or conservative, he was a rapist.
Sure there are people not in Hollywood that are chomo’s but are you saying that Hollywood is not a cesspool of pedophilia? Are you that blind by ideology that you’ll give them a pass and dive head first into “whatabout” O’Reily?? Ffs dude.
Yes, I would rather listen to a ditch digger on political issues than actors. If you disagree then so be it. You keep on in your ideological bubble.
@big freedom, lol wow. Look up Megan's law and search county by county. There are pedophiles everywhere including ditch diggers. I'd argue severely low income people have the highest tendencies for assault of women, rape, and rape of underaged people. You like ditch diggers that fit into that category more than people who are public figures who may get information you and I dont have because they have an opinion? I'm not saying Hollywood is great but hating them because they have an opinion that they voice and not knowing if they are pedos (most are not) is dumb.
There is a reason they are ditch diggers. It may sound elitist and ya I've worked as a bartender and before I was a night time gas station attendant but I spent my other time getting my masters and surrounding myself with smart peers that have a valuable opinion not ditch diggers. I also know you are a conservative on this app that frequently criticizes liberal institutions based on your biases.
@big freedom, if they are very intelligent and are ditch diggers they are likely criminals that can no longer get a good job. If not they are probably slower and not the ones you should be deriving you opinions from. It's like the blind leading the blind but I guess youd like to follow...
I love how Trump is the one raging against the dishwasher
Doesn’t Tom morello have like 2 phds one in political science too
@bobbylupo, he should’ve got one in playing guitar
@CMNDR BUbbles, that’s a good burn tbh but tom morello is actually one of the best guitarists of all time. well, his ‘90s and 2000’s stuff. i haven’t heard anything past that yet.
@Tyler643, yea he’s great