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@dandyhandy, no no, Instagram can stay. It’s where I follow fitness babes, BNW photographers, and free lance artist. Plus they haven’t censored Trump and other conservatives, who have every right to voice their opinion, like the other social media have. The rest I don’t give a fück about, they can go
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@Chifilo, more like "if they wanna act like publishers they should be treated like publishers" At the very least they could not act like they know they're getting away with it I understand that it could be argued that trump was inciting violence, but they've also been banning conservatives a lot recently
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@BrenadryI, they arent getting away with anything. They're a private buisness, they arent the government, the 1st Amendment only protects you from government censorship. FB, Twitter, IG, hell even MySpace, have the right to block and censor any posting on their website. They never advertised themselves as a place where you can say anything you want without repercussions. They're a buisness, and as such need to make money. Their service is free so the only way to get funding is through ads. However, if the site becomes known for allowing some type of posting and that leads them to having a negative view in the publics eye, advertisers are going to start pulling their ads or refusing to pay the amount asked. So, in order to stay in existence, they remove the content that is affecting their profits.
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@Runnin with scissors, yeah sure they're a private business, but a some point we're getting unelected people having immense control over information and public discourse, I mean it pretty much is most of our country's public discourse. It needs to be regulated by the government. Nobody with a right mind wants a political candidate silenced by a powerful company. No matter his leaning. Hes still a sitting president for God sake. Now for cases to ban people if they're using it for crime, it should go through some court. This well prevent people who have the right to freedom of speech be banned because twitter doesn't like them.
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@50SEVEN, look that makes a lot of sense, but the only thing that's still really got me convinced that they're doing things wrong is when the color drained from their face when they got hit with the "so you control information because you believe that your users cannot discern themselves what is and is not the truth. That makes you a publisher." Again, what I'm saying has nothing to do with them banning trump due to the capitol incident, it's from the unwarranted and unexplained bans from their platform, primarily including any post that even suggested the election was fraudulent, for being "misinformation" Yet when all this "it's fraud omg it's fraud" happened 4 years ago, you didn't see this. Antivaxxers haven't been banned. I give these platforms no benefit of the doubt in this situation because even they act like they don't deserve it
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@Runnin with scissors, oh because corporations are never regulated. The only reason youre in favor of corporations censoring right now is because its trump and trump supporters. You purge them because you dont stand a chance in a fair confrontation of ideas. If it was anyone else you would be having a shrill temper tantrum right now.
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@theshadosnipe, yep, Twitter has it clearly in their terms of service. People are acting like it’s 1984, but it’s not the government censoring the people, it’s a company enforcing their right to moderate their platform. Like it or hate it, conservatives fought for the establishment of this precedent less than 10 years ago. Trump isn’t censored, he could be doing press conferences whenever he wants, but he doesn’t because if he gets in front of the media they will goad him into saying something else stupid.
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@CocoasBro, walk down to the Capitol" to "cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women." "We're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you'll never take back our country with weakness," he said. "You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."- Trump Also "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." kinda doesn’t line up with the whole peaceful thing he said earlier and no this isn’t censorship he’s the president of the United State he can call for a press conference whenever he want and can release statements whenever he wants. The first amendment means you can say whatever you want it does not mean we have to listen to what you say it also doesn’t mean you or get to say it wherever you want.
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@PoliticsGuard, The supreme court ruled twitter as a public platform. Social media is key for political movements in the modern age. You might aswell just have state mandated censorship because the other party is just not going to be able to compete without it. Its why trump won in 2016 and even with the mass purgings and 99% negative news coverage campaigns we still almost won. Youre ideas are terrible and in general youre just awful tribalist idiots without any real values. If the reverse was happening to biden i would be against it.
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@CocoasBro, again no you don’t tell an angry mob to go to the capital building while standing in Washington especially when when congress is in session about to do something you keep saying is “fake” . And I’ve said before there is no double Standard because there is no comparison between what happened this summer and what happened on that day there is absolutely no comparing Civil Unrest against an attempt coup attempt. And before it come up yes this was a coup (albeit quite possible the worst one ever) attempt not a protest. You don’t go and break into the Capital for any other reason. No you can’t claim it was people protesting voter fraud when they are people simply refusing to listen to everyone that’s says their was no wide scale fraud. You can try and pretend “BLM” & “ANTIFA” are some big bad boogie men as much as want it will never cover up the fact Trump fired those at that building as a bullet.
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@PoliticsGuard, yup thats totally what i said right? Lmao im just not pro censoring anyone for wrongthink. People can and should be allowed to qdvocate for islam and their view of islam. Now if theyre going around chopping peoples heads off in real life thats a different matter and they need to be arrested in real life.
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@Thone09, yes i have. But i also dont buy into this retarded notion that trump initiated just like i dont say AOC caused those terror attacks on ICE facilities because im intellectually consistent. Unlike you guys who will drop your values and core beliefes at a drop of a hat simply because it benefits your tribe. Its one of the reasons i left the Democrats in the first place.
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@CocoasBro, mitch McConnell literally said Trump instigated the riots, it's bipartisan, republican house members voted for his impeachement . The only "tribe" here is the trump one that you're somehow still stuck to. You can't even critize trump like you critize obama, both deserve bipartisan criticism. You're just going against the flow because you can, not because it's the right thing to do.
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@CocoasBro, don’t pretend you were ever on the left. You are nothing but a typical alt-right nazi troll that hide behind a keyboard and the random rules of engagement that the internet has. Also as dropping values and beliefs I believe you were mister the N-Word has no power and words can never hurt you. Yet ever single time something you conceive to be “left” is said differently suddenly becomes the worst possible thing ever you flip every time.
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@CocoasBro, A. Never mentioned racism beyond your own. B. It’s super easy to know you when post your beliefs online every other day. C. You talk about “core values” yet literally say my “current” beliefs their. D. Yeah I’m sure you can post your Anti-BLM and Anti-ANTIFA propaganda all day but that doesn’t change anything or mean anything your just trying to distract from the fact your out of things to say or defend yourself with.
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@Thone09, A. Not a racist so fvck off your probably more racist than me. B. How am i out of things to say ive been whipping you up and down this comments section. The video evidence is just me T-bagging you with proof that your wrong. Oh btw heres AOC calling for violence against trump supporters Youtube.com/watch?v=dSR8VlokQY I hope you let go of your disgusting racist bigoted beliefs loser.
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@CocoasBro, you see, I don't have an argument, I'm not sharing an opinion, all I've stated are current events. But you're kinda right, you crushed reality with your garbage. Honestly you just keep proving how much of nothing you have to add. You've also failed to prove that McConnell did not blame trump for the jan 6 terrorist attack. You've also got nothing to say about truko supportes beating a cop to death. You can pretend to have te high ground, but in all seriousness, you've been on your knees the whole time. Peace out
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@Thone09, lol when a leftist is loosing they like to call their opponent alt right. Ok since youre so simple ill break down what arguments ive completly crushed. 1."They dont say it to a completly angry croud" posts video and gives multiple examples of left wing political leaders saying to a croud of angry people to " push back on them" and to "fight them" to clarify i dont think this is abnormal rhetoric you do. I then condemned the actions of the trump supporters who killed the cop. 2." Because weve seen soooo much of Antifa And BLM" I then posted about a dozen vidoes of blm burning buildings, maiming people, beating people and killing people. Ive dismantled every one of your arguments using video evidence that you are wrong. Im not sure what other kind of evidence you want that could proove my point more. Seeing as ive done all that one could do to change any reasonable persons mind. Im not sure what else to say. You wont listen to my words and you wont accept visual evidence.
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@big freedom, apparently a bad hand if "the government" is the one being punished in this instance... Time to take off the foil hat for a while and maybe consider that there was nothing more to it then they were following personal morals and didn't like the guy. Is that really that hard to believe? Whatever your political beliefs, it's pretty obvious Trump wasn't our best president in the history of the US. He did plenty to make himself and the country look beyond stupid, like his infamous Great Wall of Mexico.
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@CocoasBro, last one I call you an alt-right nazi troll not because I’m out thing to say but because I’m just giving you your full title and exposing the playbook you keep using. You’ve failed to put everything in context every time no matter how similar clips you pull up the won’t mean anything until you puts Trump full speech in context. Also my “Soooo much BLM and ANTIFA” was referring to the fact they haven’t been doing anything since the original wave of civil unrest this summer. Your little video thread is still useless as is your any other quotes stuff. You keep talking around my points and inserting your own.
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The left: CORPORATIONS ARE ALL EVIL THEIR RUINING THIS COUNTRY! WE ARE THE 99%.!!! #Resist#fight#facism The left when a handful of companies control almost all human communication and hold almost all human knowledge start to use their influence to censor political movements and their political opponents from getting out their message, while also using their massive ammount of influence to destroy competition in extremely unfair ways: Its a private company guys they can do what they want. Chill out if they want censor our political opponents.... I MEAN EVIL Fascists let them.
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@CocoasBro, Nobody said life is fair. Consider it "character-building," start your own communications company and come up with your own rules, have fun with all the lawsuits without Section 230 cuz BillyBob28769 downloaded in his diaper after getting butthurt by comments. If you can't beat 'em, which we all know you can't, join 'em.
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@Mistyblue Ghost, oh that would be nice except google is using its overwhelming influence to force counter social media platforms out of existence. Are you honestly this stupid? You cant see the potential obvious problems with a handful of corporations having almost a complete monopoly on human communication using that power to silence political dissidents? Look past the partisan bullsh!t and use your brain for 2 seconds.
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In defence of all the media banning Trump: He did promote the attack on the capitol building and went and called those terrorists "Special People" (oh they're special alright). So I don't think it's crazy to ban someone who promotes and incites domestic terrorism. I can't find the video, I guess it's deleted everywhere except for small bits in the news?
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@Tylerdurdin, found it, had to use Opera's VPN to get the webpage https://www.wfsb.com/news/president-trump-releases-video-amid-u-s-capitol-chaos/video_6ed3f516-14b5-55c1-81d0-a903fb6ef28a.html While Trump does say to stop the attack on the capitol, after the fact, he didn't state that it was wrong to have happened And yes I think I'm getting it now. I should just avoid politics. My mind was much more peaceful before getting into all of this
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@Ald0bii, agreed on your last statement, the problem now is the polarization and the fact their's little recourse in mending the cultural gap. Both sides have been pulled to the limits and their are a lot of people to blame. Sadly I don't see Trump as the catalyst of these problems and banning him is moving people further apart. Trump getting yeeted off of everything shows what they want to do with his supporters. Ostracize them and oppress their openion. Here's a good time line if you'd like to take a better look at things. https://www.lotuseaters.com/capitol-building-takeover-timeline-07-01-2021 Trump needed them to go there and act peaceful. It might of had been if pence didn't say, to the effects, "regardless of any evidence that is put before me, Biden won." This could have all been avoided. If bowser hadn't under cut the amount of officers on scene then it might have been different. Who knows, but I can say one thing this shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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What a bunch of crybabies, if you don't want to play by a privately-owned company's TOS, then uninstall cuz you're just pissin' in the wind. Nobody cares about your delusion of freedom of speech, uninstall or go to Parler, I hear they're getting back online and ready to take any and all Trumper refugees😂
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@Mistyblue Ghost, google used their monoplostic powers over the internet to pressure other companies not to let parlar on their servors. Imagine being pro censorship by a multi-national corporation with control over 90% of human communication. Oooh step on my harder daddy tell me whats real and whats not!
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@spongeblade, Cry more, just because you don't like the fact you have to follow private industry rules doesn't make it any less of a reality. Social platforms are privately owned products and you're just a user, you have no First Amendment rights. Cold hard facts. Another fact for you: there always has been, and always will be, violent extremists, but even they can't win against industry and are merely limited skirmishes. You have absolutely no legal forum for objection, and Section 230 is a thing, so suck it up, buttercup.
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@spongeblade, You're an ignorant rube with no idea how the real world works, just because you oppose the absolute truth doesn't make it any less of a reality. You're a powerless schmuck in the game of life, keeping your head buried in the sand won't ever, and I mean EVER change the fact that the Constitution does not apply to private industry. If you believe otherwise, YOU are the fekking moron.
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@CocoasBro, So what, Google is a privately-owned company, just like any social media site in existence, if it used its power, which btw was freely given to them by YOU the user, then such is the reality of industry and you have absolutely no say in it, no matter how much you whine about it while you continue to be a user. That makes YOU a part of the so-called problem, doesn't it?
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@CocoasBro, yeah. His comments on multiple posts show he's lost any grip on reality. His idea of truth is believing whatever he is told. All these communist morons have spoken about the terrors of capitalism forever, now its the savior of humanity because.....big tech says so..... Morons like him are going to be fun to laugh at when their idiocy blows up in their faces.
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@CocoasBro, there will be a civil war of some sort once these evil fascist f@#$s start arresting people for disagreeing with them and taking everybody's guns. The reason the US wasn't invaded during ww2 was because our enemies knew "there would be a gun behind every tree and 2 under every bush". It won't be good for anybody once it hits that level, but the people with guns are the people dips$%%$ like misty want censored and disposed of.
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@CocoasBro, LMAO keep dreaming, you think you have the power to control corporate industry? Power grabbing is the name of the game, Parler was a weak zebra and the proverbial laws of nature came down on it. Let's hear your genius plan to prevent an already cemented business acumen, I'm dying to know. If not, you're just a whiny, hypocritical consumer.
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@Mistyblue Ghost, are you honestly this dumb? We can remove section 230 protections for one. They would be destroyed by the sheer amount of lawsuit being thrown at them. They arnt a free public platform anyway. We could actrually hold them accountable and break up these massive corporations just like we did to the carpet baggers. We have alot of options but you sit here and your just fine with it? Its us now but it will be your side eventually. How are you this incapable of seeing that?
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@spongeblade, Well at least you and Cocoa are conceding there's nothing you can do to prevent industry monopoly, because you can't. Neither of you have come up with any ideas to prevent it, and both of you continue to use the same services and platforms you're crying overreach. Every generation crybabies "Revolution" and yet corporation continues to win because YOU are part of the problem as a consumer, so suck on THAT tailpipe.
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@CocoasBro, Democrats have Congressional control, good luck with having Section 230 repealed, it's just not viable, at the very least there may be amendments or clarifications to the current provision with the Biden administration, but I wouldn't count on an outright repeal. Trump already tried and failed, and he held the military defense policy hostage because of it. If that's all you're waiting on to break up corporations, repealing 230 and clobbering them with lawsuits (those are your "a lot of options"?), yeahhh, noo, gonna need a bigger boat.
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@CocoasBro, Yeah, like how Trump finished his wall? Like how Trump finished his presidency with the lowest approval rating of any president in history? Like how Trump said he won the election for another four more years and wouldn't let election fraud stand only to lose every single lawsuit? Like how Trump golfed almost an entire year of his term? Like how Trump plunged America into 3 trillion in debt and illegally diverted military funds for the wall he said Mexico was going to pay for? Yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock in Trump taking care of a damn thing. At least he'll be gone by noon tomorrow, THAT you can bet on.
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@Mistyblue Ghost, how about trump improving our economy to the best in decades, how he ended several wars in the middle east, how his economy only took even the slightest downturn when we were forced to stop it dead in its tracks for almost a year. About how even with all his supporters censored off the internet and a non stop 4 year long propaganda war on him he still gained in approval from last election. Trump has his faults but hes not this evil devil man that you delusional deranged fvckwits think he is.
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@CocoasBro, Well, actually, hate to have to womansplain to you, but Trump played a con-man's shell game on you. He inherited an already low unemployment rate that continued to trend down because of Obama's job creations, not Trump's, who had very little job growth. Median household income picked up under Obama that Trump took credit for. Trump's tax cuts massively slanted towards corporations and his rich friends who own the greater majority of stocks and bonds, which they turned around and bought stock buybacks, creating an illusion of a strong stock market. He falsely boosted the economy by illegally diverting funds from the military and repealing environmental protection laws (f*ck smog control). Trump is a plutocrat, not a populist who saved a "rigged" economic system, and you've been SO played. Somehow I think you failed history and economics, just a guess.
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@Mistyblue Ghost, that is untrue. Trump inherited a sputtering economy in a slight recession, and i dont give two sh!ts about corporate kick backs because as far as im concerned the mans a mesiah just for ending two wars in the middle east and not starting any new ones unlick O-bomba. And no trump helped the little guy with employment. Under trump unemployment reached a new low especially black unemployment. But look at that weve gone off topic from you maliciously laughing about a multi national corporate oligarchy with a near monopoly on human communication using its overwhelming powers to silence political dissidents. Hows it feel to betray all of your supposed beliefs because orange man bad?
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@CocoasBro, Again, there is absolutely zero evidence the 50-year-low unemployment rate from last year was caused by the Trump administration's fiscal or regulatory policies, so where's your proof? The unemployment rate was already falling before Trump took office. Trump failed to produce any kind of strategy for the Middle East, he fumbled a few one-offs, big whoop, just episodic attention to whatever passed on his kiddy Resolute desk in-between his tweet rants. How's it feel to be an ignorant rube who got scammed by his own "messiah?". Just stay away from the purple kool-aid, dude, and Biden will have a great de-programming healthcare plan for you😂
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@Mistyblue Ghost, lmao 1 just because you didnt understand his deplomatic method doesnt mean it didnt exist. It was very obvious to anyone without TDS. But again just because your almost completely wrong about trump were still getting off topic. Why are you pro multi nation corporate censorship of political entities? How can you possibly justify that in your tiny tiny brain? And holy sh!t de-programing healthcare plan that just sent a shiver down my spine. How can you be this unself aware? Youre just trying to be a strawman for george orwells worst nightmare now arnt you.
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@CocoasBro, Hahahaha his diplomatic method??! You mean Trump's tweet-rants and golfing that took up the majority of his time as President? You mean the title of "President" he wanted so badly but didn't want the responsibility? You really thought he would have his own brand of "diplomacy" fly within a two-party system? What fekkin' planet are you living on? Do you not even remotely know how government works? Now I'm thinking you dropped out of school at the fifth-grade level, or probably home-schooled. Corporate censorship is up to each company's TOS, not supported by the Constitution, it's a fact, doesn't matter how small anyone's brain is, we as users are completely irrelevant to what occurs in quarterly board meetings, so you can get off your soap box about that. But don't worry, every kid in fifth grade has their moment of Orwellian indignation, but you can whine about it all you want, it's a simple choice for YOU:. Shyt or get off the pot! 💩😂
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@CocoasBro, It's simple, Trump used a Hitler-era technique of repetitive messaging to brainwash his cult followers. Hitler only had word-of-mouth, a few posters and flyers, bullhorns through townships, his youth education programs, etc. Trump had a much further reach to millions using his Twitter MAGAhorn. Studies show after only six weeks of listening to Trump's lies that brainwashing had occurred, people couldn't tell fact from fiction so they blindly followed every lie he told. You've been programmed to believe nothing but lie-infested Trump propaganda, you def need a de-programming! 😂
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@Mistyblue Ghost, your clearly to crazy and stupid to be reasoned with so ill leave you with some sagely advice taught to most 1st graders. First they came for the nazis and we said nothing, then they came for the undesirables and we said nothing, then they came for the opposite party and we said nothing, and when they came for us there were no allies to be found.
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"We're losing a lot of people because of the internet. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing the internet up in some ways. Somebody will say 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people ." - Donald Trump
One of us only tells lies. The other also tells lies